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TheBlackCat
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: cronicr]
#25033911 - 03/02/18 03:13 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yes the grains are slightly starchy unfortunately and slightly wetter than they should be. But they were pressure cooked properly and still able to be separated when shook. Maybe it's just the excess water making it look suspect. I should have saved these grains for oysters but I had limited kitchen time that week. The greasy look could be from the fact that I always use liquid coffee in my grains and well coffee has some oils in it. It's never been an issue for me.
I'll just put it aside. If it smells good I'll use it but won't G2G it. Going to make a few sawdust bags today and I'll make some new grain jars too just in case I open these guys and the smell weird. I guess that's the best I can do.
Plus I do shoeboxes anyways so it's easy enough to deal with.
Edited by TheBlackCat (03/02/18 03:19 PM)
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Kyshroomer19xx
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tryptkaloids]
#25033925 - 03/02/18 03:24 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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tryptkaloids said: I just took a second look at that jar and I hope you didn't take my advice. I would toss it.
Can you tell me what looks off to you or what you see that would make you want to toss it. I just want to understand and be able to spot things like this in the future
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cronicr



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Give it a shake n see what happens but healthy spawn should not be whispy and knotting up
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: cronicr]
#25033934 - 03/02/18 03:30 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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It's was g2g on 1-16 but I will give it a shake
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tryptkaloids
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cronicr said:
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tryptkaloids said: I just took a second look at that jar and I hope you didn't take my advice. I would toss it.
Thank god lol..was choosing facepalms
that's the last time I give advice before actually expanding a picture. 
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cronicr said: Your grains look a bit greasy or starchy
they look too wet but they should still spawn well enough. I wouldn't make a decision on it yet though until you get a smell, you know what's up
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Kyshroomer19xx said: It's was g2g on 1-16 but I will give it a shake
That's a long time. It shouldn't be so Damn whispy. The small section at the bottom looks better but the top looks like mold. I would toss it.
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Ghostveil25
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Kyshroomer19xx said:

What do you guys think of this jar? I just noticed the white dots. Is that knotting? Or something else
Looks like a yeast infection. Yeast shows up as little white specks and wet spawn. Just like this picture. I dont think hyphal knotting would happen to that degree in such a low oxygen environment.
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bodhisatta 
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Ghostveil25]
#25034205 - 03/02/18 05:47 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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mushrooms will grow in-vitro no problem in jars with only gas exchange. especially facing stress
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O0ZE
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: bodhisatta]
#25034271 - 03/02/18 06:15 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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What are optimum fruiting temperatures for Cubes?
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bodhisatta said: mushrooms will grow in-vitro no problem in jars with only gas exchange. especially facing stress
what are some examples of stress to a mushroom, and when is stress beneficial for cubes? never?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: O0ZE]
#25034325 - 03/02/18 06:42 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Bacteria high temps mold ect. Stress is never good
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: O0ZE]
#25034519 - 03/02/18 08:01 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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what are your favorite temperatures for the following stages?
Jar spawn run:
Mono Tub Spawn run:
Encouraging fruiting:
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: O0ZE]
#25034530 - 03/02/18 08:04 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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68-72 Im usually more between 65-68 tho which works just fine
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O0ZE
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Ghostveil25]
#25034536 - 03/02/18 08:05 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Ghostveil25 said:
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Kyshroomer19xx said:

What do you guys think of this jar? I just noticed the white dots. Is that knotting? Or something else
Looks like a yeast infection. Yeast shows up as little white specks and wet spawn. Just like this picture. I dont think hyphal knotting would happen to that degree in such a low oxygen environment.
i believe i have this problem as well. what prevents it and is it harmful?
I've also got some green shit growing in my mono. it's not fuzzy, but instead looks like this:
 the green hue is more pronounced in real life. i scooped it all out with a spoon. was that bad? there were a few spots here and there.
Edited by O0ZE (03/02/18 08:14 PM)
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O0ZE
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: bodhisatta]
#25034539 - 03/02/18 08:05 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: 68-72 Im usually more between 65-68 tho which works just fine
perfect. i've been over heating this whole time staying around 76 - 80. at least i learned one thing tonight.
Edited by O0ZE (03/02/18 08:25 PM)
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: O0ZE]
#25034678 - 03/02/18 08:50 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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i was reading tmethyls tips and tricks and one was to not suck air back into the spore syringe seems obvious but i totally did that last time i nocced something up
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: O0ZE]
#25034681 - 03/02/18 08:51 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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O0ZE said: what are your favorite temperatures for the following stages?
Jar spawn run:
Mono Tub Spawn run:
Encouraging fruiting:
70 to 80...
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: cronicr]
#25034724 - 03/02/18 09:07 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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70.
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O0ZE
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: cronicr]
#25034729 - 03/02/18 09:11 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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thanks all. sorry about asking a zillion and one questions.
what about the other concerns i had and was asking about? like the green stuff and the stuff someone said was yeast. what should i do?
i want the shrooms growing in it. there are about 6. it's a shitty haul and if i can harvest 6 before the whole thing goes to shit that's what i'm gonna do. IF i can. if you had to try and get something out of this tub then how would you go about it.
BTW this isn't my last tub. i got 12 jars waiting in the wings. 3 are ready for a mono tub run, but all 2 have that yeast shit. is it really yeast? whenever i see those little dots i also see that the jar has mushrooms growing in it. stress?
i use agar. and i cook my jars in a PC AND i use a SAB. i can understand the mono tub taming, but my jars... how.
here it is

see that green shit, just right of center top?
Edited by O0ZE (03/02/18 09:18 PM)
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: O0ZE]
#25034776 - 03/02/18 09:34 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Looks like bruising to me. Not surprising that's pretty bacterial. If it's not grainy it's not mold. My advice to you is to take things slow. Are you working with agar? If not do that. Read through people's signature links. Post pics of your spawn jars before spawning them. Do small tries before you are confident with your cultures and technique. Then scale up. I've wasted a lot of grain over the years because I thought I could handle it but I always had bacterial spawn.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy]
#25035183 - 03/03/18 04:29 AM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Josex said: That's the worst shit I've seen in a while.    
Ok thanks. It's strange that they looked good all the way to full colonization. And then boom.
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Edited by Legitimate_itch (03/03/18 04:31 AM)
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O0ZE
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tryptkaloids]
#25035415 - 03/03/18 07:46 AM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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tryptkaloids said: Looks like bruising to me. Not surprising that's pretty bacterial. If it's not grainy it's not mold. My advice to you is to take things slow. Are you working with agar? If not do that. Read through people's signature links. Post pics of your spawn jars before spawning them. Do small tries before you are confident with your cultures and technique. Then scale up. I've wasted a lot of grain over the years because I thought I could handle it but I always had bacterial spawn.
so bacteria can cause bruising? so i have a bacteria problem from too much misting. and my mycelium is bruising now because it's reached maturity and is nearing the end of it's life cycle/fruiting. someone told me that bacteria (basically I'm paraphrasing and interpreting) isn't anything more than a nuisance to cube fungus. it's mold that screws things up?
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