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van hatton
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: cronicr]
#25010726 - 02/21/18 02:16 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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I've never heard shske can you clarify. 
Im in the same boat as germs here. Are we looking for fuzziness after x time or are we looking for what.
That's why I'm confused. Some say fuzziness some say till the grains hold together. If I spawn either it's mold 
Are we watching how the grains recolonise the whole jar post shake and it should be done within 48 hours.
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stareatclouds
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Germs]
#25010776 - 02/21/18 02:40 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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Germs said: Clarify please. I see this said often. If clean spawn should completely recover in 48 hours then I don’t know how I’ve been growing mushrooms all this time.
After a shake it’s about a week before the spawn is ready to use for me
That's what I'm saying. It's very rare for me to shake at 100% and not use immediately, but I would have no problem using it anytime after if it's clean. If I had 100% recovery in 2 days from a shake at any point I would be alarmed. But I guess he meant, "I wouldn't spawn any jar if it didn't show recovery within 2 days of a shake" I guess?
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Germs
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stareatclouds said:
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Germs said: Clarify please. I see this said often. If clean spawn should completely recover in 48 hours then I don’t know how I’ve been growing mushrooms all this time.
After a shake it’s about a week before the spawn is ready to use for me
That's what I'm saying. It's very rare for me to shake at 100% and not use immediately, but I would have no problem using it anytime after if it's clean. If I had 100% recovery in 2 days from a shake at any point I would be alarmed. But I guess he meant, "I wouldn't spawn any jar if it didn't show recovery within 2 days of a shake" I guess?
You have a way with words, stare star. Took it right out my mouth
Just don’t wanna give my jars SBS (shaken baby syndrome)
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The only down side to pasties is the lack of visibility.
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Germs
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: JHOVA] 1
#25010816 - 02/21/18 02:55 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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JHOVA said: The only down side to pasties is the lack of visibility. 
I thought this was in reference to those stick on nipple covers that girls wear to festivals and concerts
Which in this case your statement would still hold true
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Germs]
#25010841 - 02/21/18 03:02 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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I just got done stuffing polyfil in 30 lids...I think I'm ready to buy some SFDs
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: 00Burnout]
#25010848 - 02/21/18 03:04 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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That sounds time consuming. That's alot of lids
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Germs]
#25010862 - 02/21/18 03:08 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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Germs said:
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JHOVA said: The only down side to pasties is the lack of visibility. 
I thought this was in reference to those stick on nipple covers that girls wear to festivals and concerts
Which in this case your statement would still hold true
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tryptkaloids
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Germs]
#25010869 - 02/21/18 03:10 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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Germs said:
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stareatclouds said:
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Germs said: Clarify please. I see this said often. If clean spawn should completely recover in 48 hours then I don’t know how I’ve been growing mushrooms all this time.
After a shake it’s about a week before the spawn is ready to use for me
That's what I'm saying. It's very rare for me to shake at 100% and not use immediately, but I would have no problem using it anytime after if it's clean. If I had 100% recovery in 2 days from a shake at any point I would be alarmed. But I guess he meant, "I wouldn't spawn any jar if it didn't show recovery within 2 days of a shake" I guess?
You have a way with words, stare star. Took it right out my mouth
Just don’t wanna give my jars SBS (shaken baby syndrome)
Immediately after a shake you can see which kernals were previously colonized. When those ones start to fuzz up they have recovered.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Zero Nowhere]
#25010878 - 02/21/18 03:14 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yeah, I got some oats going while I was doing the lids, and then got em pc'ing when I could. I've got a little over a case and a half of qts that still need grain, and so far I'm nearing the end of my first pc run (4 out of 6 half gallons).
This is gonna run long into the night and probably part of tomorrow lol.
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van hatton
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: 00Burnout]
#25010891 - 02/21/18 03:18 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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Thanks tryp
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Fun part is figuring out what works best for you
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Changa Alchemist
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: van hatton]
#25010962 - 02/21/18 03:46 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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So the myc fuzzing back up after a shake is recovery? Forgive me if I'm behind on this.
I shook 4 ape jars 45 hours ago, they've been fully colonized again since 6am this morning.
Seeing the myc start to grow again is recovery, or 100% again after the shake?
I definitely feel like I'm beating up the mycelium. I hadn't done this before, I think I'll stick to my eyes and nose.
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Edited by Shomann (02/21/18 03:51 PM)
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Appalachian Brony
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Shomann said:
I shook 4 ape jars 45 yours ago, they've been fully colonized again since 6am this morning.
45 years ago?
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Germs
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Shomann said:
I shook 4 ape jars 45 yours ago, they've been fully colonized again since 6am this morning.
45 years ago?
Middle aged shrooms
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Doc9151
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Ferather] 1
#25010989 - 02/21/18 03:58 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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Ferather said:
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hamloaf said: ...Forget about NPK when dealing with fungi..
I haven't forgotten, and I am still waiting for counter evidence that mycelium only need carbon, and no other basic elements. Also your discussion proposal (not incriminating) suggests mycelium produce other elements from just carbon.
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Can you please elaborate your post, I will explain how even using spawn changes NPK ratios.
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hamloaf said: ...Mushrooms are not plants.
What does this mean, most people know mycelium are not plants. However they both produce enzymes, and absorb solubles. Most organisms require the same set of basic elements, in a usable-digestable form, this info is not new.
Both mycelium and plant roots absorb solubles, through their cell walls, to feed. Bacteria are also not plants, they still feed in much the same way.
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How using grain spawn effects C:N ratios:
Here is my quick guide for wheat bran and wood, you can see that ratio changes. Above that post is evidence added NPK improved overall growth.
50/50 dry coir to dry grain will have a similar C:N ratio.
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Easy Mode: 50/50 + end pH + more water.
I read something in the Journal of central European Agricultural that a nitrogen increase is beneficial to fungi. If I can figure out how to post the pdf I will.
Edit: It says that the study shows that the area with the highest nitrogen rate had a significant increase in yield.
Edited by Doc9151 (02/21/18 04:08 PM)
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Doc9151]
#25011193 - 02/21/18 05:18 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Mateja]
#25011205 - 02/21/18 05:23 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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I think loaf was referring to using liquid fertz for plants
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Doc9151
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Mateja]
#25011209 - 02/21/18 05:24 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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I should say, this study was on saprophytic fungi in general, not a particular species .
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Doc9151
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Doc9151]
#25011215 - 02/21/18 05:26 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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Me too, the study was the impact of fertilizers on saprophytic fungi.
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Edited by Doc9151 (02/21/18 08:22 PM)
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Kyshroomer19xx
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Germs]
#25011653 - 02/21/18 07:47 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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JHOVA said: The only down side to pasties is the lack of visibility. 
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Germs said:
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JHOVA said: The only down side to pasties is the lack of visibility. 
I thought this was in reference to those stick on nipple covers that girls wear to festivals and concerts
Which in this case your statement would still hold true
Lol that's hilarious but thanks I will try to get some better pics
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