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cronicr



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stareatclouds said: Am I the only one who doesn't think 4 days is enough time for 1/2" pins in a monotub to mature enough to be a problem? If you can put it in a much cooler room, go for it. But I think 4 days is fine.
I completely agree
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madhatter2
StrangerThings

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: cronicr]
#25009298 - 02/20/18 08:42 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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I have decided against a mono-sitter. I haven't seen what will happen to fruits or the monotub substrate surface when left unpicked for too long, but it sounds like you all don't think it's a big deal. How long past prime do fruits rot or break down?
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Asura
Cyantist


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: madhatter2]
#25009303 - 02/20/18 08:45 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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madhatter2 said: I have decided against a mono-sitter. I haven't seen what will happen to fruits or the monotub substrate surface when left unpicked for too long, but it sounds like you all don't think it's a big deal. How long past prime do fruits rot or break down?
The biggest deal is when you expand beyond one person in your organization.
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madhatter2
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: madhatter2]
#25009309 - 02/20/18 08:47 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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And stareatclouds, you're probably right on the timing of all this. I appreciate the brainstorming since I've not been through this.
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stareatclouds
star eat clouds?



Registered: 09/29/14
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: madhatter2]
#25009428 - 02/20/18 09:50 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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There's 0% chance your fruits will rot in that 4 days. As I and my understudy cronicr said, it's likely a perfect time to leave them alone. The worst thing that happens in 4 days is they mature and drop some spores. The major downside is spores usually make the fruits taste worse. Another potential downside that is debated is spores dropping signals to the mycelium that the life cycle is over and will stop/slow future flushes.
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van hatton
Still a noob



Registered: 11/23/14
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Loc: Michigan
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I guess I should ask here?
I'm planning on using lime pasteurization on a bunch of newspapers. Is this even a good idea I know it works with straw but that's straw not paper.
Should I do that or just good old heat.?
-------------------- If I ever give out misinformation please inform me so I can have the correct information. Tmethyl said: Chuck Norris once roundhouse kicked a monotub that wasn't pinning fast enough. The force of the kick rearranged the genetics of the mushrooms, we now call them Penis Envy. Caps McGee said:
Fun part is figuring out what works best for you
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madhatter2
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stareatclouds said: As I and my understudy cronicr said....
Haha, thank you both for dropping the wisdom.
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Ferather
Mycological



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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: hamloaf]
#25010050 - 02/21/18 08:17 AM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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hamloaf said: ...Forget about NPK when dealing with fungi..
I haven't forgotten, and I am still waiting for counter evidence that mycelium only need carbon, and no other basic elements. Also your discussion proposal (not incriminating) suggests mycelium produce other elements from just carbon.
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Can you please elaborate your post, I will explain how even using spawn changes NPK ratios.
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hamloaf said: ...Mushrooms are not plants.
What does this mean, most people know mycelium are not plants. However they both produce enzymes, and absorb solubles. Most organisms require the same set of basic elements, in a usable-digestable form, this info is not new.
Both mycelium and plant roots absorb solubles, through their cell walls, to feed. Bacteria are also not plants, they still feed in much the same way.
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How using grain spawn effects C:N ratios:
Here is my quick guide for wheat bran and wood, you can see that ratio changes. Above that post is evidence added NPK improved overall growth.
50/50 dry coir to dry grain will have a similar C:N ratio.
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Easy Mode: 50/50 + end pH + more water.
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Munchauzen


Registered: 06/22/11
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Ferather] 1
#25010068 - 02/21/18 08:31 AM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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Ferather said:
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hamloaf said: ...Mushrooms are not plants.
What does this mean
It means they belong to a the kingdom of fungi, not plantae.
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Ferather
Mycological



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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Munchauzen]
#25010072 - 02/21/18 08:32 AM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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van hatton
Still a noob



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Loc: Michigan
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: van hatton]
#25010075 - 02/21/18 08:34 AM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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van hatton said: I guess I should ask here?
I'm planning on using lime pasteurization on a bunch of newspapers. Is this even a good idea I know it works with straw but that's straw not paper.
Should I do that or just good old heat.?
Ferather your the paper masta. Whatcha think?
-------------------- If I ever give out misinformation please inform me so I can have the correct information. Tmethyl said: Chuck Norris once roundhouse kicked a monotub that wasn't pinning fast enough. The force of the kick rearranged the genetics of the mushrooms, we now call them Penis Envy. Caps McGee said:
Fun part is figuring out what works best for you
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Ferather
Mycological



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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: van hatton]
#25010091 - 02/21/18 08:44 AM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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I don't suggest that, after testing and research, I found paper pellets contained various types of bacteria. The pH change is more "selective" than "cleaning", many bacteria will be fine with it.
How much paper are you using? 25-30 min in a PC worked best.
Tip: Various bacteria can decay cellulose.
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van hatton
Still a noob



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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Ferather]
#25010103 - 02/21/18 08:52 AM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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One bundle lol. Sterilization would be pointless on something so big. I'm thinking heat for most consistent result.
-------------------- If I ever give out misinformation please inform me so I can have the correct information. Tmethyl said: Chuck Norris once roundhouse kicked a monotub that wasn't pinning fast enough. The force of the kick rearranged the genetics of the mushrooms, we now call them Penis Envy. Caps McGee said:
Fun part is figuring out what works best for you
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Ferather
Mycological



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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: van hatton]
#25010115 - 02/21/18 09:00 AM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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Fair enough, got for heat pasteurization then, good luck.
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van hatton
Still a noob



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Loc: Michigan
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Ferather]
#25010134 - 02/21/18 09:14 AM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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Now for the daily paranoid post from van.
Transferred a few things on 2\19. Some not showing any growth that I can tell. Should I wait or take more transfers before the original plate is beyond Fucked 
Edit. 1 out of 4 of the plates are showing amazing growth.
-------------------- If I ever give out misinformation please inform me so I can have the correct information. Tmethyl said: Chuck Norris once roundhouse kicked a monotub that wasn't pinning fast enough. The force of the kick rearranged the genetics of the mushrooms, we now call them Penis Envy. Caps McGee said:
Fun part is figuring out what works best for you
Edited by van hatton (02/21/18 09:17 AM)
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tryptkaloids
Learner



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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: van hatton] 1
#25010194 - 02/21/18 09:45 AM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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van hatton said: I guess I should ask here?
I'm planning on using lime pasteurization on a bunch of newspapers. Is this even a good idea I know it works with straw but that's straw not paper.
Should I do that or just good old heat.?
I've heard of people getting away with untreated newspaper. I wouldn't do it tho
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van hatton said:

Now for the daily paranoid post from van.
Transferred a few things on 2\19. Some not showing any growth that I can tell. Should I wait or take more transfers before the original plate is beyond Fucked 
Edit. 1 out of 4 of the plates are showing amazing growth.
I bet you could get away with transfering from an overgrown plate of it comes down to it
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van hatton
Still a noob



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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tryptkaloids]
#25010240 - 02/21/18 10:08 AM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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Bacteria tis the problem soon followed by mold. I think they may be fine. The transfers that is. I got 11 clones to choose from 
Interesting. Right now they would be colonizing inside. Then once it's not shit out they'll be thrown outside. I'll try one without anything because curious.
-------------------- If I ever give out misinformation please inform me so I can have the correct information. Tmethyl said: Chuck Norris once roundhouse kicked a monotub that wasn't pinning fast enough. The force of the kick rearranged the genetics of the mushrooms, we now call them Penis Envy. Caps McGee said:
Fun part is figuring out what works best for you
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Changa Alchemist
Shwift sauce lifeguard


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: van hatton]
#25010347 - 02/21/18 11:12 AM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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What's the usable time frame of the shake test before spawning?
I never used to do this so I'm gonna start. I've got a few ape jars that are almost 100% again after36hrs.
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tryptkaloids
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I wouldn't spawn anything past 48 hrs. But that's me. Ideally 24 is the aim
-------------------- "Remember, kids, the difference between science and screwing around is writing it down" -adam savage Flowchart for Recommended plan of action. Learn the tried and true way to grow mushrooms Use the Damn search engine After you know what you're doing, take a break Pick a book, Make some chips! Josex said:Don't take the site seriously bro, ain't worth it.
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stareatclouds
star eat clouds?



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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tryptkaloids]
#25010455 - 02/21/18 11:59 AM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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You wouldn't use a clean jar you shook at 100% if it sat for 2 days?
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