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Leftfield420
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy]
#25007730 - 02/20/18 10:41 AM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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I over did it on the lc's...made like 5 1qt jars with 2 cups in each...next time I will keep em in the jars and just pour...but for now I'm gonna noc up a couple qts with the syringes that I have because I dumped the rest of my lc's like a dumbass
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stareatclouds
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Leftfield420]
#25007758 - 02/20/18 10:56 AM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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Just practice dumping your LC outside of the SAB with water. It gets a lot easier over time and is much easier than taking to a syringe first. I'm pretty damn good now at hitting around 8-10cc each time, although you can get away with less. One thing to keep in mind is to watch the bottom when the LC/LI colonizes. It'll often look like no growth, but you can see the bottom is full of myc. So be sure to check and shake it up in a week if colonization isn't everywhere else.
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natedawgnow
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Leftfield420]
#25007760 - 02/20/18 10:57 AM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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Pouring fails you when you have 500ml of lc and can only pour 5-10 jars at a time. Wbat are you supposed to do, pick the lid back up and put it back on the lc jar, or keep the lid off while you prepare the next 10 jars to be poured?
Pouring works if your lc is only 250ml and you only plan on inoculating 5 jars
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mushboy
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: natedawgnow]
#25007765 - 02/20/18 10:58 AM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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natedawgnow said: Wbat are you supposed to do, pick the lid back up and put it back on the lc jar
i have even in the same session cause my box is small. it hasnt been an issue. ...yet/ever.
Edited by mushboy (02/20/18 11:01 AM)
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van hatton
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: natedawgnow]
#25007766 - 02/20/18 10:59 AM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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natedawgnow said: Wbat are you supposed to do, pick the lid back up and put it back on the lc jar,
Exactly that. Just don't put it down.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: van hatton]
#25007773 - 02/20/18 11:02 AM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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i dont always need or feel like pouring 500ml at once. so i replace the cap and stash it. just like agar.
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stareatclouds
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: natedawgnow]
#25007774 - 02/20/18 11:03 AM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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natedawgnow said: Pouring fails you when you have 500ml of lc and can only pour 5-10 jars at a time. Wbat are you supposed to do, pick the lid back up and put it back on the lc jar, or keep the lid off while you prepare the next 10 jars to be poured?
Pouring works if your lc is only 250ml and you only plan on inoculating 5 jars
I disagree. I don't ever put the lid down. I take off the master lid and receiving lid with the same hand, pour, and replace both. It works fine for me.

I usually only do 15 quarts per jar now though since I have my blade attachments and use them on 150ml in tall 1/2 pints. But I do 4-5 at a time max, put ring back on, and then start on the next 5.
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van hatton
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy]
#25007778 - 02/20/18 11:05 AM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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Stare.. Star.. Style.
Works fine.
Yeah that
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also i pour 250ml of lc into 12-18 qts at a time in 3 or 4 batches in a dry box
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natedawgnow
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy]
#25007789 - 02/20/18 11:10 AM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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A has been said here a thousand times, just cause it works a couple times doesnt mean its good practice.
Lc is touted as the most finicky and contam prone method for a reason
Was it you van that was having the contam issues even with seemingly clean lc?
@stare- i dont doubt it works judging by your grows but returning the lid just seems like asking for problems
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: natedawgnow]
#25007800 - 02/20/18 11:14 AM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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I have a much harder time trying to unscrew all rings and loosen caps to go down the line pouring. I wind up fumbling around and putting my hands over jars and shit. It's just not for me, even with only plastic caps, which I don't really like. This is how I've done liquids for as long as I can remember, although I took a break from them for quite a while due to broken blade attachments. I'll keep track of my success rate with this since it's the only way I do it.
It's the same technique I use for G2G; returning the master lid each time, multiple times. You can check the video in my sig if you want. IF YOU DAAAAARE!
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mushboy
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a stare dare?
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van hatton
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: natedawgnow]
#25007809 - 02/20/18 11:16 AM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yes it was.
The problem was more technique towards opening the jars. Bacteria was introduced to lc during pour totally fucking everything up. 
But I have 6..? Quart jars of agar that I did stare or star style. In reality I wanted my receiving jars to be clean but I kept the "pouring" one to see if anything would be added to my lc.
Another point.
If something falls into your lc while do this you would imo have the same problems for li. IE a mold spore isn't going to germ in your lc in 5 minutes. This spreading to only one jar. We are assuming one spore you know.
What I'm trying to say is the pouring jars are fine. I did the same process twice in one day different times of day.
Also poured some king lc and they look fantastic along with the aa+ I poured.
Make sense what I'm saying or am I just rambling?
Also want to add that I thought the same as you Nate I didn't wanna try it at all because I use polyfil. Which are thicker than sfds. More chance of a touch. Just gotta get gud.
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Fun part is figuring out what works best for you
Edited by van hatton (02/20/18 11:18 AM)
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natedawgnow
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ill check it out when im off work.
So you return your lid after every jar?
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van hatton
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: natedawgnow]
#25007820 - 02/20/18 11:19 AM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yup lol I mimicd stare with no problems. As far as I can tell
-------------------- If I ever give out misinformation please inform me so I can have the correct information. Tmethyl said: Chuck Norris once roundhouse kicked a monotub that wasn't pinning fast enough. The force of the kick rearranged the genetics of the mushrooms, we now call them Penis Envy. Caps McGee said:
Fun part is figuring out what works best for you
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stareatclouds
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: natedawgnow]
#25007830 - 02/20/18 11:21 AM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yep. I have both lids loose and both rings off by the time I'm transferring. I hold the master lid between thumb and index and the receiving lid between thumb and middle finger. After dumping/pouring, I put them back in reverse order. My G2G success rate is very good and I remember my LI rate back in the day being very high as well.
My fails are usually me using old shit or stuff I mark as "iffy" and going ahead anyway, but my technique is good, IMO. I also replace the blade ring with a sterilized unmodified blade as well. I've dropped just tilting it to the side to pour and closing back, which I used to do for a while, and didn't really like it.
Definitely will try and keep track of all LI I do this way in the near future. And be super selective with what agar I use so I can't blame a fail on iffy spawn.
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stareatclouds
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: van hatton]
#25007837 - 02/20/18 11:27 AM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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van hatton said: Yup lol I mimicd stare with no problems. As far as I can tell 
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Leftfield420
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I just blasted 5ml in each jar, there was some pooling at the bottoms but I slowly rolled the jar around and it went away
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My bht tub is putting out some weird looking fruits I am curious to see how this 1 turns out I have done a couple shoeboxes of this variety but haven't seen any characteristics like this 
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Leftfield420]
#25008008 - 02/20/18 12:46 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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Leftfield420 said: I just blasted 5ml in each jar, there was some pooling at the bottoms but I slowly rolled the jar around and it went away
I shake the shit out of my jars to coat as much as possible. Don't be afraid to get crazy with it. Sometimes I'll even take a few quarts of oats laced with LI to the amusement park and hop on a roller-coaster. I couldn't decide between calling it a roller COAT-ster or a roller OAT-ster, ha ha ha. Mycology can be fun, AM I RIGHT?
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