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MooseShroom
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: cronicr]
#24999583 - 02/16/18 07:02 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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Random sidenote: Since I've had my pressure cooker it doesn't make full contact with my burner. Is there any way to kind of "level" the bottom of my pressure cooker easily without putting it at risk?
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hamloaf
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: cronicr] 1
#24999594 - 02/16/18 07:05 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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Mateah said: Iยดm mostly talking about the "one ounce dry first flush per mycoquart" standard. To me itยดs neither scientific nor reliable, simply because the fruits alter between 88-94% water content.
500g fresh can dry down to 50g and 1kg fresh can dry down to 50g as well in some cases, often in my case for example.
A mycoquart becomes also an arbitrary amount so that makes this even more unscientific..
I am genuinley deeply interested in working towards common standards that translate the data for us easier. I would really like to know exactly what kind of results the other growers are getting to make it more comparetive. I understand not everyone is interested in these numbers as much as I can, but it would be nice if this data was more exact.
There are no scientific numbers ...take it all with a grain of salt...adding gypsum? Chuck a handfull....spawn to bulk? Somewhere around 4 inches, this system works n makes me happy
For calculating BE there sure is. 1 quart of spawn equaling one once of mushrooms is not a proper BE calculation. https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/24426997#24426997 https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/24542453#24542453
Also, add gypsum at 3-5% by volume of substrate materials dry.
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Asura
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: cronicr] 1
#24999596 - 02/16/18 07:06 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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cronicr said: There are no scientific numbers ...take it all with a grain of salt...adding gypsum? Chuck a handfull....spawn to bulk? Somewhere around 4 inches, this system works n makes me happy
I've read your posts for years and this is really a great summation of your style. It's like "relax man, it's gonna work out for you"
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Mateja


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Asura]
#24999603 - 02/16/18 07:09 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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But if the point was just to get fruits I would have been happy long time ago. I want to understand WHY everything works like it works  and how it can be done better
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cronicr



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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: hamloaf] 1
#24999626 - 02/16/18 07:16 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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hamloaf said:
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cronicr said:
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Mateah said: Iยดm mostly talking about the "one ounce dry first flush per mycoquart" standard. To me itยดs neither scientific nor reliable, simply because the fruits alter between 88-94% water content.
500g fresh can dry down to 50g and 1kg fresh can dry down to 50g as well in some cases, often in my case for example.
A mycoquart becomes also an arbitrary amount so that makes this even more unscientific..
I am genuinley deeply interested in working towards common standards that translate the data for us easier. I would really like to know exactly what kind of results the other growers are getting to make it more comparetive. I understand not everyone is interested in these numbers as much as I can, but it would be nice if this data was more exact.
There are no scientific numbers ...take it all with a grain of salt...adding gypsum? Chuck a handfull....spawn to bulk? Somewhere around 4 inches, this system works n makes me happy
For calculating BE there sure is. 1 quart of spawn equaling one once of mushrooms is not a proper BE calculation. https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/24426997#24426997 https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/24542453#24542453
Also, add gypsum at 3-5% by volume of substrate materials dry.
NO! MEASURE BY THE HANDFULL FFS!
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cronicr



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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: MooseShroom]
#24999630 - 02/16/18 07:17 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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MooseShroom said: Random sidenote: Since I've had my pressure cooker it doesn't make full contact with my burner. Is there any way to kind of "level" the bottom of my pressure cooker easily without putting it at risk?
Safely? No
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tryptkaloids
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Mateja]
#24999634 - 02/16/18 07:20 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: % weight to weight Or % volume?
Because a quart of grain and a quart of water is much different than A pound of grain a pound of water Is much different than a quart of grain and a pound of water Etc..
this pisses me off every time. Not enough info for people who may not know.
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MooseShroom
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: cronicr]
#24999636 - 02/16/18 07:20 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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cronicr said:
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MooseShroom said: Random sidenote: Since I've had my pressure cooker it doesn't make full contact with my burner. Is there any way to kind of "level" the bottom of my pressure cooker easily without putting it at risk?
Safely? No
Alright. No worries. I'll just leave it as is. Thank you.
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tryptkaloids
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: cronicr]
#24999637 - 02/16/18 07:21 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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cronicr said:
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MooseShroom said: Random sidenote: Since I've had my pressure cooker it doesn't make full contact with my burner. Is there any way to kind of "level" the bottom of my pressure cooker easily without putting it at risk?
Safely? No
Yea there is, center it as much as you can and use jar rings to stabilize the low sides
-------------------- "Remember, kids, the difference between science and screwing around is writing it down" -adam savage Flowchart for Recommended plan of action. Learn the tried and true way to grow mushrooms Use the Damn search engine After you know what you're doing, take a break Pick a book, Make some chips! Josex said:Don't take the site seriously bro, ain't worth it.
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hamloaf
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: cronicr]
#24999651 - 02/16/18 07:26 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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cronicr said:
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hamloaf said:
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cronicr said:
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Mateah said: Iยดm mostly talking about the "one ounce dry first flush per mycoquart" standard. To me itยดs neither scientific nor reliable, simply because the fruits alter between 88-94% water content.
500g fresh can dry down to 50g and 1kg fresh can dry down to 50g as well in some cases, often in my case for example.
A mycoquart becomes also an arbitrary amount so that makes this even more unscientific..
I am genuinley deeply interested in working towards common standards that translate the data for us easier. I would really like to know exactly what kind of results the other growers are getting to make it more comparetive. I understand not everyone is interested in these numbers as much as I can, but it would be nice if this data was more exact.
There are no scientific numbers ...take it all with a grain of salt...adding gypsum? Chuck a handfull....spawn to bulk? Somewhere around 4 inches, this system works n makes me happy
For calculating BE there sure is. 1 quart of spawn equaling one once of mushrooms is not a proper BE calculation. https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/24426997#24426997 https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/24542453#24542453
Also, add gypsum at 3-5% by volume of substrate materials dry.
NO! MEASURE BY THE HANDFULL FFS! 
Cron must be on the sauce again this evening.
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MooseShroom
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tryptkaloids]
#24999660 - 02/16/18 07:28 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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tryptkaloids said:
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cronicr said:
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MooseShroom said: Random sidenote: Since I've had my pressure cooker it doesn't make full contact with my burner. Is there any way to kind of "level" the bottom of my pressure cooker easily without putting it at risk?
Safely? No
Yea there is, center it as much as you can and use jar rings to stabilize the low sides
The inside of the pressure cooker seems fine to me. The bottom part of it just doesn't make full contact with my stovetop so it doesn't heat up as quickly as it could. Not a huge deal if I can't fix it tho.
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tryptkaloids
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: MooseShroom] 1
#24999822 - 02/16/18 08:35 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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I know what you mean. The weight shifts to one side and causes cold spots. On the burner. You can straighten it out with jar rings
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natedawgnow
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tryptkaloids] 1
#24999854 - 02/16/18 08:48 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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Like so
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RomeoPapa
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: natedawgnow]
#24999868 - 02/16/18 08:54 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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So mate. Which one is your fave? Presto or AA?
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Asura
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: RomeoPapa] 2
#24999880 - 02/16/18 08:58 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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Dude, AA will win that contest every time. Source: Presto owner.
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Mateja


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Asura]
#24999897 - 02/16/18 09:04 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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Can the AA be made to operate as quietly as a Presto? I only have a Presto to compare with
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Changa Alchemist
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Mateja]
#24999902 - 02/16/18 09:07 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yes. I taped a quarter to each side and then put two penny's in the opening that runs the outer edge on top like a "Micky Mouse" head. I use an AA weight and gauge on an old national.

Actually quieter than a presto.
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RomeoPapa
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I clip 2 wooden clothes pins over my aa weight. It gets up to 17 or so pounds before the weight will blow off steam. If I set the fire on the burner just right then I can keep a steady 15 or 16 pounds with no noise.
Shomann that vintage cooker is cool man. I like that older stuff. Back when craftsmanship stood for something and it shows.
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Edited by RomeoPapa (02/16/18 09:14 PM)
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MooseShroom
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: natedawgnow]
#24999945 - 02/16/18 09:25 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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Ohhhh. Now I'm following. Thanks both of you. For some reason my mind went to putting the jar lids on the inside. Spaced pretty hard on that one.
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JHOVA
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: MooseShroom] 1
#25000036 - 02/16/18 10:01 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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2 quarters taped on top and then a shot glass upside down is super quiet for the 23 and 17 quart presto
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