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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: stareatclouds]
    #24996830 - 02/15/18 04:05 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

Everytime I drop a wedge I just shave my eyebrows off, broken thumbs is too far mang


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: stareatclouds]
    #24996850 - 02/15/18 04:13 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

I definitely agree with that analogy, but damn yeah that's keeping it too real lol. Regardless of whether that was a joke or not (you never know these days, I've heard crazier shit lol) that made my thumbs hurt. Maybe I need to have a debt for dropped wedges, but I have yet to drop one, 2.4% agar with 2.4% malt is my go to recipe and I'll probably never change my agar percentage. It works for germination, transfers and blenderless LI ime

I will forever expand my library, even if I never get the chance to grow some of this out, I'll at least keep some clean plates and eventually slants hangin around. I'm treating species like pokemon, gotta catch em all lol. After I get all the active and edible species I want I'm gonna go after some novelty species, particularly panellus stipticus. I can only imagine how mind blowing it would be to have a bioluminescent mushroom to stare at while frying.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: 00Burnout]
    #24996861 - 02/15/18 04:16 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

I received a plate of pan stip from a kind member here and sadly never got the chance to grow it out. I feel like a twat for that. It wound up going bad in my mini-fridge. :frown:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: stareatclouds]
    #24996867 - 02/15/18 04:18 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

Damn that sucks, I'm terrified of losing my atl7 culture because I don't have a print. I've got a plate sitting out that will hopefully pin so I can get a fruiting culture. I hate not having prints for back ups.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Appalachian Brony]
    #24996874 - 02/15/18 04:21 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

Decided to just dive deep into my work instead of dealing with the drama and share my work in the groups I can still participate. Also I'm laying off the ativan. A few days of that and I'm starting to feel worse off. Only a short term fix really.


I see a lot of casings. I've never really used them. I mean I understand the principle but everything is in a Martha now so surface conditions should be pretty good if everything is dialed in correctly then right?

Also until I get a fan setup I just fan out my martha 3 or 4 times a day and it seems better. I don't have a ton going on in there right now so the buildup is minimal. I still need to build a bigger chamber. Getting stuck inside my head too much and it's side tracking me and draining my adrenaline reserves.


Also those sticky grain jars from my experiment with pressure cooking the grain and water in the jars is growing only oyster mycelium which is exciting. I'm going to make some more jars tonight and try again since my shoe boxes and trays might be having their last flushes soon.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: 00Burnout]
    #24996875 - 02/15/18 04:21 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

With g2g I follow a little tip I seen hamloaf mention, that doing a g2g with a master close to 100% but not quite there can help speed up the colonization of the receiving jars since the mycelium is still in an active growth phase. Not sure that it does anything substantial but with g2g I get to 100% in a week or less with well prepped grains.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Germs]
    #24996891 - 02/15/18 04:27 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

Nice, I'll do some experimenting when I start doing g2g and post my results.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Germs]
    #24996910 - 02/15/18 04:35 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

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Germs said:
With g2g I follow a little tip I seen hamloaf mention, that doing a g2g with a master close to 100% but not quite there can help speed up the colonization of the receiving jars since the mycelium is still in an active growth phase. Not sure that it does anything substantial but with g2g I get to 100% in a week or less with well prepped grains.





I did that a couple of days ago and so far so good. The master was at least 90%. It was basically a phuckit moment. I didn't have any plates ready but that pint jar of costa Rica looked pretty good. Glad I didn't break any cardinal rules!


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: stareatclouds] * 1
    #24996923 - 02/15/18 04:41 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

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SAB work is like shooting pool, your moves should be made in mind with setting up the next.





i dont think of it at all that way. its more like fucking. just jump in and do it. practice makes perfect. keep it wet :wink: (iso:lube)


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: RomeoPapa]
    #24996925 - 02/15/18 04:42 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

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Yep, I commented. I'd planned on doing a similar test with G2G; wanted to leave jars open for different intervals before dumping grains in. I've successfully G2G'd a master with the lid off the entire time for 5 jars before. It wasn't going to really be a test, so to speak, but more so (hopefully) a visual confirmation that your technique needs to be solid  your SAB needs to be still, not sterile.



I've never put,my master lid on between receiving jars :shrug:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tryptkaloids]
    #24996930 - 02/15/18 04:46 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

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tryptkaloids said:
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stareatclouds said:
Yep, I commented. I'd planned on doing a similar test with G2G; wanted to leave jars open for different intervals before dumping grains in. I've successfully G2G'd a master with the lid off the entire time for 5 jars before. It wasn't going to really be a test, so to speak, but more so (hopefully) a visual confirmation that your technique needs to be solid  your SAB needs to be still, not sterile.



I've never put,my master lid on between receiving jars :shrug:



I always do and my g2g never contaminates, have yet to see 1 do so. Where yo jars at son?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Germs]
    #24996949 - 02/15/18 04:55 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

I ain't got shit on grain atm. When I do I'll post results


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tryptkaloids]
    #24996997 - 02/15/18 05:26 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

I got the jars in the cooker. Hopefully a few adjustments that I made will help and the grain won't stick. :smile:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: TheBlackCat]
    #24997014 - 02/15/18 05:35 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

Either can work. That was the point of my planned experiment. It's more about technique than supposed sterility. I prefer returning the master lid each time, though.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: stareatclouds]
    #24997037 - 02/15/18 05:46 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

My first pe tub spawned 21 ish days ago, started pinning 2 days ago , is this the infamous blobs i hear of or will these turn into some decent fruits besides the mutated caps?

If they are blobs should i just pick them now n hope for a better 2nd flush or should i leave em a bit longer


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Marmie]
    #24997063 - 02/15/18 05:55 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

Those are blobs, but pick them when they stop growing. It's hard to tell because there's not a visual cue like a veil tearing (or stipe wrinkling with PE), so I'd always take pictures and compare each day. They're super potent, btw.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: stareatclouds]
    #24997104 - 02/15/18 06:06 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

Damn, ohwell. I thought 3 weeks from spawn with a casing added at a week would of stopped it from blobbing, wats the best way from stopping it from happening for the next 3 pe tubs i gota spawn in 2 days? Should i let the jars consolidate a bit ?  Or more fae , im kinda stumped


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Marmie]
    #24997150 - 02/15/18 06:16 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

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stareatclouds said:
Either can work. That was the point of my planned experiment. It's more about technique than supposed sterility. I prefer returning the master lid each time, though.



I don't like putting anything at all over anything open :shrug:
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Damn, ohwell. I thought 3 weeks from spawn with a casing added at a week would of stopped it from blobbing, wats the best way from stopping it from happening for the next 3 pe tubs i gota spawn in 2 days? Should i let the jars consolidate a bit ?  Or more fae , im kinda stumped



Longer consolidation. Late fruiting, late casing


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tryptkaloids]
    #24997161 - 02/15/18 06:19 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

:cheers: thanks man,  will it still put out a normal second flush?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tryptkaloids]
    #24997173 - 02/15/18 06:21 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

There's no commonly accepted answer, only people's personal theories, and the amount of variables involved can change your experience from another's. The strain(s) you're working with won't behave the same as mine. And PE behaves much differently than other cube varieties. If you do a search on it, you'll find a bunch of really involved and detailed threads.

Consolidation of spawn jars and/or tubs is a prominent theory. A casing layer was thought to be another for a while. Recently I've read FAE as another theory. But nothing concrete one way or the other.

tryp is repeating common theories, not conclusive remedies. I've grown out someone's PE clone they've never gotten blobs with and got blobs first flush every time I tried. There's more to it than a single across the board, one-size-fits-all answer.

Usually, IME, the later flushes are normal fruits, though.

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I don't like putting anything at all over anything open :shrug:




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