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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: TheMadHatter420]
    #24993082 - 02/14/18 05:38 AM (5 years, 11 months ago)

A dude a week or two ago in mush cult board was using peat moss as a sub...he spawned a brf cake to it and it fruited..but nothing worth bragging about


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Leftfield420]
    #24993106 - 02/14/18 05:49 AM (5 years, 11 months ago)

I used jiffy seed starter, mostly peat, to make some cakes before. Worked fine, smelled the house up something BAD while running the PC, and pissed the wife off though.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Leftfield420]
    #24993118 - 02/14/18 05:54 AM (5 years, 11 months ago)

My connection with said person is few friends and I like to partake semi regularly so we usually get a nice batch and I handle the processing into whatever form we're going to consume (teas, alcohol, chocolate, etc) but i have never seen their setup or watched them do it. Only seen dry/wet produce

I was semi interested in doing some myself so I asked how they were doing it. After hearing them and comparing to all the Teks I had read online. I thought it would be good to drop a line here and get some opinions.

Theirs seems much simpler and less care intensive than the Teks i've read but clearly If I'm going to get into that sort of thing myself I want to do it the right way without worrying every day if my stuff is going to work or not. I'm usually decent at getting things to grow in general, but i've never tried growing mushrooms. I'm not always the most patient person either so i'd hate to be worrying every day if my batch was going to work or not haha

I asked them for pics, we'll see what that turns up. If they share I'll post them up.

My concern was contamination since nothing in that mix sounds like its scientific. More so that it belongs in the "Fuck It" thread tek :laugh:

Yet at the same time thought through logically, it at the very least can't be worse conditions than nature.


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by do it right, i mean i would probably make trays, tents, humidifier hooked up to controller, lights on timer, fan on timer, etc. I may not be as patient as i should be, but I also have the tendency to go all out if i do something :laugh:

Also sorry if it was read as do this. Truly was posted as a information feedback about it. I see a lot of you guys on here have some pretty awesome results. thanks again :smile:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: MurderByNumbers]
    #24993144 - 02/14/18 06:12 AM (5 years, 11 months ago)

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MurderByNumbers said:
woot 2nd post and already trying my hand at challenging the written authorities

Have a few things I'd like to throw out to the wolves

Here is what someone I may or may not know is doing which to date has worked well curious what the pro growers would say the negatives are?


Source of Spores
*Sterile container with ~volume of distilled water to be mixed with sub.
** Drop fresh caps in the water, swirl, strain into 2nd sterile container (just a fine mesh food strainer (sterilized), no coffee filters or anything)
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fresh caps should be suspended over water to let spores drop, the cap is a source of contamination or even better a print should be made on piece of sterilized foil and germinated by swiping a sterilized loop or swab from the print onto agar




What is being done
Panaeolus cyanescens
Local crap nasty moss less than $1 a bag (need ~2.5-3bags for a tub)
*shredded, thoroughly baked the hell out of (its local natural stuff with nothing added nor treatments being done to it)
**mix brf with moss until no more BRF sticks to moss
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measurements are your friend



***bake in oven for 25-30m 180-200c (yea some of the flour burns, oh well)
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dry sterilization is not as effective as wet is for this hobby, better to tyndallize or better yet use a pressure cooker



****cool, mix in spore water from above
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is this the hydration of the substrate?



*****make cakes, place in tub whatevs..
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they colonize open air? I find that hard to beleive




(verm and perl not available in area so...moss)
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what about coco coir? Preferrable to moss if available







Iโ€™ve never heard of it done that way before. Sounds sketchy at best. Read teks from the read more link in my siggy and do it the right way.





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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: AyePlus]
    #24993155 - 02/14/18 06:16 AM (5 years, 11 months ago)

:whathesaid:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Ferather]
    #24993179 - 02/14/18 06:31 AM (5 years, 11 months ago)

@Murder duplicating a grow over and over again with 0 contam issues is the long term goal. Thereโ€™s a lot of hack methods that would give you results but the tried, tested and true methods from others trial and errors are the ones I follow. Why try to reinvent the wheel before learning to crawl :shrug: Those that came before us already made the mistakes and it can be difficult enough to get things right when correct methods are followed so why add to the neurotic tendencies by rolling the dice and taking chances?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Steevo]
    #24993186 - 02/14/18 06:35 AM (5 years, 11 months ago)

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@Murder duplicating a grow over and over again with 0 contam issues is the long term goal. Thereโ€™s a lot of hack methods that would give you results but the tried, tested and true methods from others trial and errors are the ones I follow. Why try to reinvent the wheel before learning to crawl :shrug: Those that came before us already made the mistakes and it can be difficult enough to get things right when correct methods are followed so why add to the neurotic tendencies by rolling the dice and taking chances?




It's 100% not me, I'm repeating what was told to me
Ive had their produce, not seen their method first hand.

I only posted here to ask based upon what said person told me after I asked them.

:whiteflag: never an intention to get negative, just knew the post would be against regularly practiced and preached doctrine based upon the copious amounts of information i've read/watched here and other places. Still wanted opinions :smile: (as in their word seemed too good to be true)


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: MurderByNumbers]
    #24993301 - 02/14/18 07:58 AM (5 years, 11 months ago)

The reason it goes against everything here is because spores should pretty much only go to agar. And bulk subs shouldn't be colonized via spores... What I just read you post is an insane waste of spores. I guarantee I can grow 100x the amount of mushrooms as that guy with just 2 microscopic spores.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tryptkaloids]
    #24993353 - 02/14/18 08:40 AM (5 years, 11 months ago)

Murder it sounds like you need to gear up and start your own grow. Then when your having fat flushes you can rub in your buddies face.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: RomeoPapa]
    #24993450 - 02/14/18 09:42 AM (5 years, 11 months ago)

anyone have a recommendation for a good analog hygrometer?
Preferably online through amazon but whatever works. Need to mount in my greenhouse to help dial it in.

Thanks a bunch! mushlove :smile:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: FishLevelMidnight]
    #24993465 - 02/14/18 09:50 AM (5 years, 11 months ago)

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fishermansjc said:
anyone have a recommendation for a good analog hygrometer?
Preferably online through amazon but whatever works. Need to mount in my greenhouse to help dial it in.

Thanks a bunch! mushlove :smile:



:whathesaid: iโ€™m looking for one as well
After just getting my GH set up I realized Iโ€™d rather have a grow tent, seen some nice ones on the Am!


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Germs]
    #24993470 - 02/14/18 09:51 AM (5 years, 11 months ago)

I have a 2x4 Inna mess with this spring.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: van hatton]
    #24993524 - 02/14/18 10:24 AM (5 years, 11 months ago)

Thereโ€™s these all black ones with 600D mylar inside and the reviews are all great, says it has a waterproof floor tray and some brackets to hang shit from at the top, which is where iโ€™ll put the light. The size iโ€™m looking at is 2 ft by 2ft and 4ft tall which is plenty big enough for my needs


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Germs]
    #24993567 - 02/14/18 10:41 AM (5 years, 11 months ago)

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Germs said:
Quote:

fishermansjc said:
anyone have a recommendation for a good analog hygrometer?
Preferably online through amazon but whatever works. Need to mount in my greenhouse to help dial it in.

Thanks a bunch! mushlove :smile:



:whathesaid: iโ€™m looking for one as well
After just getting my GH set up I realized Iโ€™d rather have a grow tent, seen some nice ones on the Am!




Grow tents are awesome but the fabric parts inside make great surfaces for molds to germinate and grow, but like anything, they just need to be cleaned after runs.  My 4x4 vivosun was $115 shipped.



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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Mycolorado]
    #24993637 - 02/14/18 11:13 AM (5 years, 11 months ago)

Thatโ€™s the same brand Iโ€™m lookin at! Just the smaller model

How often would you say you clean it, and what do you clean with, bleach and isopropyl or something stronger?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Germs]
    #24993658 - 02/14/18 11:20 AM (5 years, 11 months ago)

Right on!  I clean it after every run but if you're continually running things through it, I would clean it once a month at least.  Yep, I give all the fabric inside a good spray of alcohol and then soap and water.  I'll let it sit idle for a day or so to completely dry as well.  I haven't really had anything blow up in it yet, so seems to be working ok so far.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Germs]
    #24993724 - 02/14/18 11:44 AM (5 years, 11 months ago)

Hey guys what ratio of spawn to coir would you use for a 66qt mono?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Kyshroomer19xx]
    #24993750 - 02/14/18 11:56 AM (5 years, 11 months ago)

1:1.5-1:4.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Kyshroomer19xx]
    #24993752 - 02/14/18 11:57 AM (5 years, 11 months ago)

A full brick with 4-7 qts spawn


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tryptkaloids]
    #24993768 - 02/14/18 12:01 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

Ok cool I made a 56 qt mono with 5qts spawn 5qts coir using Bods bucket tek. It's been colonizing for 6 days I am planning on fruiting on day 7


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