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RomeoPapa
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: madhatter2]
#24989814 - 02/12/18 08:07 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yes. Check out hopeless hound and his shoebox grow. Fuckin killer.
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madhatter2
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One more question, I've read MS may not flush. I hear a lot of people using the term MS, meaning multispore, right? So how would you describe what I did which is to go from spore syringe, make 6 transfers, then to grain, to bulk. Does MS still describe what I have? I'm sure I didn't isolate.
You're still MS, but less strains than you initially started. And who says MS may not flush? That's like one of the pluses of MS, there's so many strains present from stable varieties that you're basically guaranteed fruits.
An unproven isolate may not fruit.
Noted. I guess I read MS may not flush somewhere and just ran with the idea to expect this, since so far that's what I'm seeing. But good to know this may not be true.
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Doc9151
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: madhatter2]
#24989829 - 02/12/18 08:12 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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madhatter2 said:
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One more question, I've read MS may not flush. I hear a lot of people using the term MS, meaning multispore, right? So how would you describe what I did which is to go from spore syringe, make 6 transfers, then to grain, to bulk. Does MS still describe what I have? I'm sure I didn't isolate.
You're still MS, but less strains than you initially started. And who says MS may not flush? That's like one of the pluses of MS, there's so many strains present from stable varieties that you're basically guaranteed fruits.
An unproven isolate may not fruit.
Noted. I guess I read MS may not flush somewhere and just ran with the idea to expect this, since so far that's what I'm seeing. But good to know this may not be true.
If it's cold where you are, fruiting slows way down under 73f. What normally takes 72hrs turns into 10 days dependent on how cold it is.
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madhatter2
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Doc9151]
#24989856 - 02/12/18 08:24 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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I've got the temp in my house set at 71 degrees. I think bod said he like anywhere from 68-72. I'm not in a huge hurry, but I do leave for 4 days in next week. I hope. I don't need a mono-sitter, but may need to recruit one at this rate.
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RomeoPapa
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: madhatter2]
#24989880 - 02/12/18 08:31 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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Be very careful on who you tell your secrets to.
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00Burnout
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: RomeoPapa]
#24989899 - 02/12/18 08:37 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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 It only takes a whisper for the whole word to know what you're up to.
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madhatter2
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: 00Burnout]
#24989922 - 02/12/18 08:48 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yeah, it does worry me a bit. Trip is from Friday to Monday. I'm just going to have to see how fast these thing grow and how the surface conditions change over the course of 4 days and make the call next weekend.
Edited by madhatter2 (02/12/18 08:49 PM)
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tealseal
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: madhatter2]
#24989933 - 02/12/18 08:51 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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eco earth>3 quarts water no verm 658 grams looks dry... feels dry... but has a few drops of water/trickle being squeezed hard.
fuck i dont know if i need to add more water of wat, i dont wanna fuck this up i finally have CLEAN spawn
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: madhatter2]
#24989958 - 02/12/18 09:00 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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You don't need a sitter. Ms usually doesn't flush all at once. Cloned tend,to more but it really has to do with genetic count
Clean spawn can handle a good among of water
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tealseal
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tryptkaloids]
#24989962 - 02/12/18 09:02 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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would rather it be too dry than wet right?
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RomeoPapa
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tealseal]
#24989970 - 02/12/18 09:05 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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tealseal said: eco earth>3 quarts water no verm 658 grams looks dry... feels dry... but has a few drops of water/trickle being squeezed hard.
fuck i dont know if i need to add more water of wat, i dont wanna fuck this up i finally have CLEAN spawn
That's what I look for. Just a few drops when given a good squeeze. Go ahead and spawn your tub then give it a good mist before you put the lid on it.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: madhatter2]
#24989988 - 02/12/18 09:11 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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madhatter2 said: Been reading Comebackkid's "proper surface moister" and I'm fairly confident in my monotub. Pins are popping in all different corners. I'm excited for that. No real even pin set, but any feedback would be appreciated.

One more question, I've read MS may not flush. I hear a lot of people using the term MS, meaning multispore, right? So how would you describe what I did which is to go from spore syringe, make 6 transfers, then to grain, to bulk. Does MS still describe what I have? I'm sure I didn't isolate.
Edit: transfers on agar
A top layer of coir 6mm at full colonization has not failed me once in term of pinsets  without a top layer is miss and swing for me, need to work on maintaining proper surface conditions I guess, but I´m kind of lazy like that so I slap on the top layer and never look back
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tryptkaloids
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: RomeoPapa]
#24989989 - 02/12/18 09:12 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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I suppose, I used 4 qts per,brick without issues. Bacterial spawn has a slightly better chance with dry sub but the range of acceptable water content is,wider with clean spawm IME
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van hatton
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tryptkaloids]
#24990020 - 02/12/18 09:25 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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Why would bacteria have a better chance?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: van hatton]
#24990023 - 02/12/18 09:28 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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Because it t hrives on stagnate water
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: van hatton]
#24990024 - 02/12/18 09:28 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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So I'm looking at these clumped up jars and they are sterile. So they oysters should be find technically. I should go for it huh. Like really go for it. I mean I have a flow hood. But I'm kind of fucked up. hmm... I'm going to do it. Then I'm going to take some pills and pass out because I have a long day tomorrow. Starting out with a sterile jar is better than some of the open air gymnastics I've seen with properly cooked gran on fb mush cult groups.
Edited by TheBlackCat (02/12/18 09:29 PM)
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van hatton
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: van hatton]
#24990027 - 02/12/18 09:30 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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Sorry for double post Polly by the end of this it won't be.
@stare. Star. Whatever
I shall I was actually do the quickness on purpose. The first time around I did slow and steady with bacteria.
I think the gap between the lid and ring was compromised. When I lift it could be letting bacteria in. Usually it's a hand problem but I don't see my hands going over jars.
Anyways so the other day I was wrapping plates and I dropped one. Hands were wet with ISO so I poked it.
Nothing. No bacteria no mold. Just looks like I poked it 
But wouldn't it being wet have access to more stagnate water?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: van hatton]
#24990104 - 02/12/18 10:03 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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Is it LI or LC you guys aren't shaking after inoculation?
LI right? Because we've already blended it up and shaking it is just beating it up more?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: TheBlackCat]
#24990112 - 02/12/18 10:06 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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TheBlackCat said: So I'm looking at these clumped up jars and they are sterile. So they oysters should be find technically. I should go for it huh. Like really go for it. I mean I have a flow hood. But I'm kind of fucked up. hmm... I'm going to do it. Then I'm going to take some pills and pass out because I have a long day tomorrow. Starting out with a sterile jar is better than some of the open air gymnastics I've seen with properly cooked gran on fb mush cult groups.
Go for it
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00Burnout
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Shomann said: Is it LI or LC you guys aren't shaking after inoculation?
LI right? Because we've already blended it up and shaking it is just beating it up more?
I'm pretty sure you shake after inoc with both, atleast I do, to further distribute inoculation points. I've always heard you don't shake with wedges.
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