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Xerbia
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Marmie]
#24957705 - 01/31/18 05:47 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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Could something like Cream of rice be used to noc up since it's super easy for myc to digest? Wouldn't that result in faster colonization?
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Ferather
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Xerbia]
#24957730 - 01/31/18 05:56 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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Hot-Water Soluble Rice Starch -- Google. The longer the grain can be cooked, and the less that becomes soluble, the better the grain (whole).
Edited by Ferather (01/31/18 06:09 PM)
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Ferather]
#24957788 - 01/31/18 06:21 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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If you have ever tried wholr rice you would see what a sticky mess it can make and how sliw it colonizes because of it
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tryptkaloids
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: cronicr]
#24957826 - 01/31/18 06:37 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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Key word there is can. It's difficult, but it can be done properly
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cronicr



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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tryptkaloids]
#24957933 - 01/31/18 07:23 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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tryptkaloids said: Key word there is can. It's difficult, but it can be done properly
Which is what i said from the start
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TheMadHatter420
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: AyePlus]
#24957973 - 01/31/18 07:53 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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AyePlus said: Prep would be different for sure, I’m a hair splitter myself, sometimes its fun. Did you know that one the more popular lemons, the meyer lemon (in strictest botanical terms) isnt really a lemon? Its more closely related to a mandarin, and can be grown where there are freezing tempuratures.
That's fucking cool. I looked into hardy citrus, but we still get to low some times for them.
When I was in college they had a lemon cross in the GH. I think I remember the teacher saying she thought it was crossed with a grapefruit. They were some big ass lemons, good flavor for cooking but maybe no lemonade, lol.
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madhatter2
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Is it typical to have cvg start out level when mixed with colonized grain, then after several days of colonization the mycelium starts to push up from the substrate making it appear less smooth and level? I made sure not to press down the mix. After mixing and leveling can myecilum be strong enough to move things around?
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TheMadHatter420
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: madhatter2]
#24958091 - 01/31/18 08:50 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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got a pic?
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madhatter2
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: AyePlus]
#24958106 - 01/31/18 09:00 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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Not a great pic through the plastic, but you may get an idea of some of the "craters" and slight ridges.
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TheMadHatter420
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: madhatter2]
#24958192 - 01/31/18 09:34 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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Looks good, the little divots and dimples in the surface seem to help pinning, like they like little pockets to pin from. I guess mycelium could moves things a bit, but so could the flexing of the plastic tub.
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madhatter2
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TheMadHatter420 said: Looks good, the little divots and dimples in the surface seem to help pinning, like they like little pockets to pin from. I guess mycelium could moves things a bit, but so could the flexing of the plastic tub.
I appreciate the reassurance. Day 8 of a 1 to 4 ratio colonized grain to bulk and getting restless. I know I'm probably analyzing things too much.
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TheMadHatter420
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: madhatter2]
#24958236 - 01/31/18 09:53 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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If it were my tub, I would be happy with how it looks.
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madhatter2
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Mad, I've had a few folks ask if we were "related" considering our handles are similar. And since discovering you over the last few months and reading your posts, I believe I'm in good company. Cheers!
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TheMadHatter420
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: madhatter2]
#24958321 - 01/31/18 10:21 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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Thanks bro, lol. Your account is older than mine. We also had MadHatter333. Going to have to start us a gang
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bodhisatta 
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Ferather
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: cronicr]
#24958923 - 02/01/18 05:41 AM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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cronicr said: If you have ever tried whole rice you would see what a sticky mess it can make and how slow it colonizes because of it
If you read what I wrote, I utterly agreed with you, but you said starch makes it bad, what you meant was it breaks down too easy. As you said it breaks down into solubles even in cold water for long periods, it becomes soluble far too easily.
As you can imagine, the soluble starch will contaminate like an open to air liquid culture. Any grain you can cook for a long time, without breakdown, is a better grain.
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Side note, the insoluble starch can produce low carbon settings for a short period with spores. Imagine insoluble starch as more like cellulose, and soluble starch more like sugar.
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Personally I prefer rye or wbs due to their resistance-toughness.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: bodhisatta]
#24959181 - 02/01/18 09:27 AM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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van hatton
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Ferather]
#24959185 - 02/01/18 09:28 AM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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If working on a culture that is bacterial would it be wise to take a transfer growing up the sides of a plate.
My thoughts are that a dish has still air so if anything bacteria wise is in the dish it's going to struggle to go up the sides of the dish
Let alone there is no nutes on the walls for growth.
What do you think.
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hamloaf
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: van hatton]
#24959254 - 02/01/18 10:08 AM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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If the culture has ran into the walls of the plate take a transfer from anywhere and see if anything good grows, then grab a transfer from the leading edge. If the culture has not ran into the walls of the plate take a transfer from a leading edge.
Pics?
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lewp
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: hamloaf]
#24959364 - 02/01/18 11:01 AM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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Are there any good posts/guides that discuss substrate and spawn pH? I'm working with some different species and want to start monitoring and adjusting pH of my mediums.
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