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TheMadHatter420
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: cronicr]
#24955813 - 01/30/18 09:35 PM (6 years, 2 hours ago) |
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Is black rice the same as wild rice? I ask as true wild rice is actually a grass seed, not true rice, but also black.
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TheDarkHeart
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lol, not sure really. i know it's called black rice... that's about it.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: TheDarkHeart]
#24955857 - 01/30/18 09:56 PM (6 years, 2 hours ago) |
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Whewwwww..
Bout time I poured some fkin plates 
Used up the 60mm ones I had. 
I was planning on putting them back into the sleeve but that didn't work out. It's been awhile and I don't remember so I wrapped 20 of them and left 20 unwrapped and put them in a gallon ziplock.
Let's try this again.
Also testing my lid lifting. Put agar in 4 oz jelly jars. Left one unopened and I just opened one like I would a grain jar. Now the waiting game.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: TheDarkHeart]
#24955881 - 01/30/18 10:06 PM (6 years, 1 hour ago) |
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TheDarkHeart said: lol, not sure really. i know it's called black rice... that's about it.
Lol or just go get your melty ass banned that works to, suck awesome messages i got ya sounded like a real tuff dude
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: cronicr]
#24956365 - 01/31/18 06:21 AM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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@cronicr, you mean well, but are saying it wrong. (No offense).
All naked cereals contain starch, usually 50% or more, however you mean "soluble" starch. Soluble starch, or cleaved starch is what's in the water when you cook it.
The un-decayed starch requires enzymes, and it's more stable.
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tryptkaloids
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Starch on the outside = bad Starch on the inside = good
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TheMadHatter420 said: Is black rice the same as wild rice? I ask as true wild rice is actually a grass seed, not true rice, but also black.
every grain is a grass seed, by that logic wheat, barley, rye, oats are not true grain
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tryptkaloids]
#24956745 - 01/31/18 11:03 AM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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tryptkaloids said: Starch on the outside = bad Starch on the inside = good
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TheMadHatter420 said: Is black rice the same as wild rice? I ask as true wild rice is actually a grass seed, not true rice, but also black.
every grain is a grass seed, by that logic wheat, barley, rye, oats are not true grain
He said it wasn’t rice not it wasn’t a grain. It is a cousin to rice though so splitting hairs imo
Also fun fact quinoa amaranth and buckwheat aren’t really grains. You can call them psuedo cereals if you want your friends to make fun of you.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Ferather]
#24956801 - 01/31/18 11:28 AM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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Ferather said: @cronicr, you mean well, but are saying it wrong. (No offense).
All naked cereals contain starch, usually 50% or more, however you mean "soluble" starch. Soluble starch, or cleaved starch is what's in the water when you cook it.
The un-decayed starch requires enzymes, and it's more stable.

No i meant exactly what the fuck i said lol...spend some time actually growing mushrooms n maybe people will take you serious.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: cronicr]
#24956815 - 01/31/18 11:43 AM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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Cron you better watch out for those water soluble starches... They tend to ruin the dreams of new growers.
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TheMadHatter420
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: AyePlus]
#24957008 - 01/31/18 01:26 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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AyePlus said:
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tryptkaloids said: Starch on the outside = bad Starch on the inside = good
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TheMadHatter420 said: Is black rice the same as wild rice? I ask as true wild rice is actually a grass seed, not true rice, but also black.
every grain is a grass seed, by that logic wheat, barley, rye, oats are not true grain
He said it wasn’t rice not it wasn’t a grain. It is a cousin to rice though so splitting hairs imo
Also fun fact quinoa amaranth and buckwheat aren’t really grains. You can call them psuedo cereals if you want your friends to make fun of you.
It is splitting hairs, but if it is wild rice then prep may be different from true rice. The prep, I would think, would be closer to using rye grass seed.
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So I added a fan inside my GH to pull air out. Would it be bad to have this air go back directly into my house? I'm assuming yes since that will spit spores everywhere.
What can I direct the duct into other than outside?
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AyePlus
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Prep would be different for sure, I’m a hair splitter myself, sometimes its fun. Did you know that one the more popular lemons, the meyer lemon (in strictest botanical terms) isnt really a lemon? Its more closely related to a mandarin, and can be grown where there are freezing tempuratures.
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Ferather
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: AyePlus] 1
#24957564 - 01/31/18 04:50 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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@cronicr:
Then I don't understand your statements, you appear to claim only rice contains starch. Here is what I mean, in case I do read it as you say it, some data here.
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As you can see all grains contain starch. Rice starch breaks down very easily into solubles.
For example cooking organic rye produces almost no solubles, a faint tint. Cooking rice produces lots of soluble starch, it's milky even.
Rice breaks down so easily cooking it breaks it down.
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cronicr



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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Ferather] 1
#24957568 - 01/31/18 04:52 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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No black rice splits easy even in cold water making it a shitty grain to use
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Ferather
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: cronicr]
#24957591 - 01/31/18 05:02 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yeah that's the right answer, it breaks down to easily, "all" grains are starchy. I was not arguing, his conclusion was "starch is bad" due to wording.
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cronicr



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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Ferather] 1
#24957603 - 01/31/18 05:06 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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Burst starchy grains are bad...simple concept
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Ferather
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: cronicr] 1
#24957632 - 01/31/18 05:15 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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I'm not challenging your knowledge, just the wording about starch and the conclusion drawn from it.
I utterly agree rice is a bad example of a whole grain, it breaks down to easily and quickly making a mess. I do not agree that rice starch is a bad thing, because in examples like BRF-Tek it functions.
Due to the ease of breakdown, total cooking time and usability of the rice is cut short.
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cronicr



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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Ferather] 1
#24957652 - 01/31/18 05:22 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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Lol....ok so let a jar of rye or aany grain burst to shit and knock it up, see how much you like it.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: cronicr]
#24957654 - 01/31/18 05:23 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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Marmie
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Mycolorado]
#24957676 - 01/31/18 05:32 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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