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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Xerbia]
    #24952001 - 01/29/18 10:39 AM (6 years, 1 day ago)

Looking good bro, you definitely need to up your fae. Oysters are extremely intolerant of co2, aborts and long stems are signs of high co2 concentrations. You want constant fae.

You might need to up humidity as well, during the day sometimes you can't see because of how thick the fog in my gh is, but I allow my humidity to fluctuate and sometimes it gets as low as 50%. Too high of humidity and you won't have any evaporation, no evap means no pins.

If your blues keep their color you're good on light (70-72 is a bit warm for them too, they like it considerably colder).

Now for the kicker, what are you doing about the spore load? You can develop an allergy to oyster spores and get very sick, so depending on how your grow room is set up I'd highly advise that you run some duct outside to vent (it will keep you from recirculating co2 as well).

I'm by no means an expert, especially when it comes to lignicolous fungi, but I'm happy to help so feel free to pm me if you have any questions or run into problems.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: 00Burnout]
    #24952287 - 01/29/18 12:55 PM (6 years, 1 day ago)

Thanks guys! I didn't even think about spore load.

So maybe I should get another fan to take air out, and vent it outside? Maybe another humidifier higher up as well?

Blue Oysters are doing good now and are blowing up, but the pearls are struggling, and a lot of them are aborting.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Xerbia]
    #24952296 - 01/29/18 01:03 PM (6 years, 1 day ago)

I've seen some guys slant a clone and grow it all year, in my head, I worry that each tiny transfer from the slant culture will just be extremely limited genetics compared to what you cloned.

I have zero experience with this, what do you guys think? How does this work effectively?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Xerbia]
    #24952299 - 01/29/18 01:06 PM (6 years, 1 day ago)

Definitely get another fan to vent it outside. As far as another humidifier, build a humidibucket so you're always pushing humid air into the gh.

My cool mist sits on my buckets and the intake from the humidibucket is right below light level, the exhaust is at the bottom.

The whole setup runs 24/7 except lights of course, and because my humidibucket doesn't keep up alone (cheap fogger) and my cool mist needs filled a couple times a day it allows humidity fluctuations which in turn allow evaporation.

The hardest part about a gh is dialing it in for your house.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Changa Alchemist]
    #24952313 - 01/29/18 01:15 PM (6 years, 1 day ago)

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Shomann said:
I've seen some guys slant a clone and grow it all year, in my head, I worry that each tiny transfer from the slant culture will just be extremely limited genetics compared to what you cloned.

I have zero experience with this, what do you guys think? How does this work effectively?




From my understanding, clones are already pretty genetically limited, to what extent idk. With as small of a surface as there is in a slant I'm sure the individual genetics would become entangled making each transfer genetically identical. I'd wait until someone who knows about slanting cultures chimes in though.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: 00Burnout]
    #24955319 - 01/30/18 06:12 PM (6 years, 3 hours ago)

Can old spores cause slow colonization?  And once fruits are produced do new spores or a clone from that fruit remain a slow when colonized.  IE does fruiting old spores affect the genes of the organism, which in turn affect future growth. Affect anything adversely?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: madhatter2]
    #24955334 - 01/30/18 06:19 PM (6 years, 2 hours ago)

No


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: cronicr]
    #24955352 - 01/30/18 06:27 PM (6 years, 2 hours ago)

Can you get spores off dried specimens? Like a gill to agar?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: cronicr]
    #24955361 - 01/30/18 06:33 PM (6 years, 2 hours ago)

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Germs]
    #24955469 - 01/30/18 07:13 PM (6 years, 2 hours ago)

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Germs said:
Can you get spores off dried specimens? Like a gill to agar?




I think so, at least I think I remember reading about it being done.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: madhatter2]
    #24955476 - 01/30/18 07:17 PM (6 years, 1 hour ago)

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cronicr said:
No



Got it



I don't think you can say this with 100% certainty. Look into the study of epigenetics, thats some trippy shit yo


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tryptkaloids]
    #24955507 - 01/30/18 07:31 PM (6 years, 1 hour ago)

Question.

Anybody ever experiment with Black rice? it's wild rice and looks like ergot, but it's not. you can google it. the cube mycelium i grow on Agar seems to really like it. more so than the whole oats i'm also using. it could be the white on black contrast that makes it looks as though the black rice is favored over the oats. i'm thinking about making a jar of nothing but black rice.

I don't know. I'm a huge noob. i started growing with BR just because i had it laying around. somebody else will definitely be able to determine the value of black rice as spawn? IDK just thought i'd ask around here. i don't think it would mean a whole lot if i grew mycelium on black rice and went around telling people that it's great. like i said. i don't know jack. others do though. maybe they haven't tried it.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: TheDarkHeart]
    #24955635 - 01/30/18 08:30 PM (6 years, 44 minutes ago)

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Anybody ever experiment with Black rice? it's wild rice and looks like ergot, but it's not. you can google it.




How do you prepare it?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: TheDarkHeart]
    #24955700 - 01/30/18 08:56 PM (6 years, 19 minutes ago)

It may have some minor benefit. But idk, it will work as a spawn because it's a whole grain, I wouldn't go around suggesting everyone needs to find it tho


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Asura]
    #24955727 - 01/30/18 09:06 PM (6 years, 8 minutes ago)

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Asura said:
Quote:

TheDarkHeart said:
Anybody ever experiment with Black rice? it's wild rice and looks like ergot, but it's not. you can google it.




How do you prepare it?




to prepare it all i have t do is soak it overnight. it then starts bursting. after drying it i throw it in a jar then in the PC it goes. your avatar is cool.

Quote:

tryptkaloids said:
It may have some minor benefit. But idk, it will work as a spawn because it's a whole grain, I wouldn't go around suggesting everyone needs to find it tho




no i wouldn't do that. i'm stupid when it comes to shroom growing.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: TheDarkHeart]
    #24955737 - 01/30/18 09:09 PM (6 years, 5 minutes ago)

Its good food bad for shroom growing


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: cronicr]
    #24955750 - 01/30/18 09:12 PM (6 years, 2 minutes ago)

oh yea, why? i personally don't like the flavor of black rice, or at least haven't found a good recipe for it. it being bad got anything to do with the rather high protein content. I'm easy though. that's over. i'm very tempted though to try at least 1 jar full of it.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: TheDarkHeart]
    #24955762 - 01/30/18 09:14 PM (6 years, 17 seconds ago)

They burst to easy and are starchy


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: cronicr]
    #24955793 - 01/30/18 09:24 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

lol, amnesia! it's you! lol. thanks for the help in cultivation. i didn't realize who it was. oh well. i appreciate the professionalism on your part. Van Isle seems cool. real close to Seattle. love the fish market in Seattle. Amazing. lot of hippies though

so starch is bad. got it. I'll drop the whole thing then. so pretty much oats is my best bet then. and the best way to prepare them is to soak over night then boil until they start to burst?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: TheDarkHeart]
    #24955798 - 01/30/18 09:26 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

Yeah starch will really slow growth, ive seen it used for brf cakes but as whole grains i havent seen any good reports but if ya try please share your results, the key will be limiting burst grains.


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