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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Kyshroomer19xx]
    #24927616 - 01/20/18 09:45 AM (6 years, 10 days ago)

Do you have bricks or loose coir? If you have bricks hydrate with 4 qts and add verm until at field capacity.  Spawn at a 1:2 ratio. Whatever you have left over lay out on a baking sheet with a fan running next to it, mix every few hours until dry. Then you can store it for later use


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Kyshroomer19xx]
    #24927617 - 01/20/18 09:45 AM (6 years, 10 days ago)

Maybe 300 g and 2 quarts? Add 1/2 qt water for every quart vermiculite if you're using any.

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Invader Zim]
    #24927625 - 01/20/18 09:50 AM (6 years, 10 days ago)

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Maybe 300 g and 2 quarts? Add 1/2 qt water for every quart vermiculite if you're using any.

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This sounds like a fair ratio, basically about half of what a brick of coir calls for, should make for ~4 qts of sub to split betweeb two boxes


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Kyshroomer19xx] * 1
    #24927632 - 01/20/18 09:52 AM (6 years, 10 days ago)

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How many grams of coir and how many quarts of water should i use to do 2 shoeboxes



Make a whole brick. Leave the leftovers in the bucket till later


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Invader Zim]
    #24927637 - 01/20/18 09:55 AM (6 years, 10 days ago)

So 1 quart grain 2 quarts coir half quart verm 4.5 quarts water? I need to write this down i hate wasting coir everytime i go to buy more they only have 2 or 3 packs at the most on the shelf and when i ask for more they always say they are waiting on the next shipment lol


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Kyshroomer19xx]
    #24927639 - 01/20/18 09:56 AM (6 years, 10 days ago)

Quit waiting for the pet store and ship it yourself


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: bodhisatta]
    #24927641 - 01/20/18 09:57 AM (6 years, 10 days ago)

Depends how big his shoeboxes are, but mine are 6 quart and I make 4-5 from 1 brick of coir, depends how much spawn is used too obviously.

2.5 quarts water for half a brick coir and 1/2 qts verm.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: bodhisatta]
    #24927645 - 01/20/18 09:58 AM (6 years, 10 days ago)

Yeah it keeps for a good while, a had some leftovers in my bucket for a month and it never greened on me. It just dried out.

You'll find it waaay cheaper online and you can order a case of it.

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tryptkaloids] * 2
    #24927649 - 01/20/18 10:00 AM (6 years, 10 days ago)

[Personal preference]

I prefer to work with weight, as volume does not tell you how much it weighs in total.
For example 100ml of coir might weigh 60g, 100ml of water is ~100g.

Take a look at my substrate water content guide below.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: bodhisatta]
    #24927652 - 01/20/18 10:01 AM (6 years, 10 days ago)

I make half a brick much more often than a whole one. Probably because I mostly grow in shoeboxes. To each their own but I’ve noticed a difference between using freshly cooked coir and coir thats sat in a bucket in a closet for weeks, whether its because of added water content from accumulated condensation or because of an increase in microbial life in the coir that the mycelium takes longer to colonize, I don’t know. But after a year of bucket tekking and making shoeboxes, half a brick is my routine


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Germs] * 1
    #24927669 - 01/20/18 10:09 AM (6 years, 10 days ago)

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: hamloaf]
    #24927716 - 01/20/18 10:23 AM (6 years, 10 days ago)

I prefer to weigh mine out as well and i will check that guide out thanks


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Kyshroomer19xx]
    #24927734 - 01/20/18 10:29 AM (6 years, 10 days ago)

Cool, as mentioned it's also my preference. I found hydrating small amounts and then adjusting easiest.
There is some overlap based on cooking time, where a larger amount would hold more water.

I do capacity I want + [X] amount for cooking losses, to get nearly exact.
You can measure the start and end weight of a test run.

You end up with [X] water for [Y] minutes.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Kyshroomer19xx]
    #24927758 - 01/20/18 10:41 AM (6 years, 10 days ago)

Does anyone have experience cloning mycelium that's expanding in the substrate?


I have a shoebox with a few patches of extremely aggressive mycelium and I'm strongly considering slicing off pieces to put on agar, clean it if needed, then xfer to jars of oats to expand via G2G.

Thoughts/suggestions?

Btw I have gentamicin if I need it.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Invader Zim]
    #24927763 - 01/20/18 10:42 AM (6 years, 10 days ago)

Are you sure thats not trich?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Just_A_Noob]
    #24927767 - 01/20/18 10:45 AM (6 years, 10 days ago)

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Are you sure thats not trich?



Yes I'm sure. I have more than a few boxes going and haven't seen trich since I started back up a few months ago. The picture isn't super clear I know...


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Invader Zim]
    #24927773 - 01/20/18 10:47 AM (6 years, 10 days ago)

Its just looks super white :shrug:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Just_A_Noob]
    #24927784 - 01/20/18 10:54 AM (6 years, 10 days ago)

I just triple checked, it's eatting the coir and not affecting the surrounding mycelium. The one patch is pretty big to not have sporulated yet also, ime. If I isolate a super contam I won't say you didn't warn me.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Ferather] * 2
    #24927889 - 01/20/18 11:51 AM (6 years, 10 days ago)

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[Personal preference]

I prefer to work with weight, as volume does not tell you how much it weighs in total.
For example 100ml of coir might weigh 60g, 100ml of water is ~100g.

Take a look at my substrate water content guide below.




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i definitely should have bought bricks instead of a giant block that i have to hack pieces of off. bricks seem to be an easy unit of measure around here. definately reading your substrate water content guide.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: TheDarkHeart] * 2
    #24927957 - 01/20/18 12:22 PM (6 years, 10 days ago)

At the top of each post a user makes, there is a "+" box on the end, to the right. Similar to "like", it's "vote up".

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You can also use my guide for grains, weigh the dry grain, lets say rye grain, the maths:

100g - 10% = 90g dry (difference 10) | 90 x 1.28 = 115 | 115 - 10 = 105g water.
205g total, 115g water / 205g total, x 100 = 56.1% water content.

100g - 10% = 90g dry (difference 10) | 90 x 1.50 = 135 | 135 - 10 = 125g water.
225g total, 135g water / 225g total, x 100 = 60.0% water content.

Measure the end weight of the setup, and measure losses.


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