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AyePlus
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Temp swings cause rings because the mycelium slows down in cold temps and goes dormant making less myc and then grows in thicker and fast again when it gets back into its preferred temp range. I’ve seen it plenty of times on plates from the fridge.
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van hatton
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: AyePlus]
#24924410 - 01/18/18 09:53 PM (6 years, 12 days ago) |
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That's rings are pretty gnarly. Must be some big temp swings.
Or bacteria 
But it's probably just temp swings fix that and see if your problem persists
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: van hatton] 1
#24924419 - 01/18/18 09:57 PM (6 years, 12 days ago) |
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Hasn´t anyone ever experimented with placing plates in different temps by now so that growers know this for sure? I´m doing this now, I´mma move the one plate from 18-25C every other day for a week to either confirm or bust this myth.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: van hatton]
#24924426 - 01/18/18 09:59 PM (6 years, 12 days ago) |
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Some of the jars I poured lc into have too much lc, what should I do. The lids are ships (wanted to try em with my oyster cultures, I like pouring better) so could I wait until colonization starts and aspirate the excess water?
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TheMadHatter420
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: 00Burnout]
#24924440 - 01/18/18 10:04 PM (6 years, 12 days ago) |
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Any chance to pour it off?
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pacmanbreed


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Mateja]
#24924443 - 01/18/18 10:04 PM (6 years, 12 days ago) |
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Mateah said: Hasn´t anyone ever experimented with placing plates in different temps by now so that growers know this for sure? I´m doing this now, I´mma move the one plate from 18-25C every other day for a week to either confirm or bust this myth.
Thats a Good idea. Using clean dish.
They are experiencing this now in our bedroom. but multiple times a day and a hotter temp. 80f even ac on then increased suddenly to 88f ac off for 8 hours during daytime then back to 80f during evening bedtime.
I feel there is a bacteria riding to it. Coupled with temp swings. Giving bacteria a boost during hotter temp.
I think im gonna ditch that 3rd plate? That growth is scary. Hope there is usefull cubes in the 1st and 2nd plates.
Edited by pacmanbreed (01/18/18 10:08 PM)
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van hatton
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: pacmanbreed] 1
#24924453 - 01/18/18 10:07 PM (6 years, 12 days ago) |
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Dam son it's 2° outside here.
If it's that hot all the time repurpose a fridge so it sits around 70° that's what I would do
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AyePlus
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: van hatton] 1
#24924460 - 01/18/18 10:10 PM (6 years, 12 days ago) |
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Yeah looks like all three have bacteria, hard to tell through the lid but I’d try a couple tiny transfers from the middle one and maybe try using a brf plate transfer to help the myc outrun the bacteria, since bacteria doesnt do as well on brf. Look up josex no mercy for bacteria.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: van hatton]
#24924478 - 01/18/18 10:15 PM (6 years, 11 days ago) |
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Thanks for the advice. Gonna look for some dedicated minifridge for them.
Im wondering how they thrive in the hot tropics outside. But hard to cultivate them indoors in a hot tropical area like ours.
I guess need to try outdoors sometime.
Edited by pacmanbreed (01/18/18 10:23 PM)
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TheMadHatter420
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: pacmanbreed]
#24924485 - 01/18/18 10:17 PM (6 years, 11 days ago) |
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Because we are fucking with the natural balance of things, and those heat spikes swing things in favor of bacteria, since they can reproduce insanely fast at warmer temps. When you sterilize things, then fuck with temps you can favor one organism over another. Nature doesn't sterilize, it has check and balances, we throw those out the window with sterilization.
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00Burnout
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TheMadHatter420 said: Any chance to pour it off?
I doubt it, it's a small enough amount that I'd spill grains before the water made it out, but it's enough to accumulate at the bottom of the jar. Maybe if I'm lucky I can shake in a few days after the myc starts taking off to redistribute the moisture.
It's only 3 or 4 jars out of 12 that are concerning, any others that are a little on the wet side should be ok. I've got at least 6 that are perfect
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: 00Burnout]
#24924523 - 01/18/18 10:34 PM (6 years, 11 days ago) |
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I wonder if laying the jars on their side would help any. It would spread the water out over more area, hopefully be absorbed better.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: pacmanbreed] 1
#24924524 - 01/18/18 10:34 PM (6 years, 11 days ago) |
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pacmanbreed said: Im wondering how they thrive in the hot tropics outside.
because thats where they grow? how can humans thrive in a world filled with toxic gases and pollution? if the earth were a tub? we would be a fat harvest. dealer humans for sure.
kinda makes me wonder about trying to 'push' out yields in non 'optimal' conditions. if the tropic are indeed 'optimal' and the earth is far from 'optimal' considering all the filth we dump in it. maybe optimal is the wrong approach ....
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van hatton
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: 00Burnout]
#24924529 - 01/18/18 10:36 PM (6 years, 11 days ago) |
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I didn't have a problem with pooling lc some we're almost an inch under.
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00Burnout
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: van hatton]
#24924549 - 01/18/18 10:42 PM (6 years, 11 days ago) |
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Cool well maybe I won't either. I'd lay them on their side but I don't think they will lay down in my incubation area without pushing other jars off. I'm a couple jars and a few stacks of plates away from maxing out my incubation area lol.
I'll be super excited if all my atl7 jars make it, I need to find more trippy friends in my hometown so I have help eating these lol, mush party at my house!
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy] 1
#24924561 - 01/18/18 10:46 PM (6 years, 11 days ago) |
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The main difference between outdoor vs indoor grows has little to do with temperature (given the species acceptable temperature range is provided) rather, outdoors the micro kingdoms are balanced coupled with with plenty of fresh air. Indoors, however, the invader spore load is tipped way in the favor of the invader spores coupled with minimal fresh air.
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Invader Zim
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: cronicr]
#24924889 - 01/19/18 05:08 AM (6 years, 11 days ago) |
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cronicr said: It may look uncolonized but it isn't...also the water would be full of enzymes leached? I do not something I have ever cared to think about lol
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cronicr said: It may look uncolonized but it is...also the water would be full of enzymes leached? I do not (know)(,) something I have (n)ever cared to think about lol
Is that what you meant to say Mr. Leahy?
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van hatton
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Invader Zim]
#24925050 - 01/19/18 08:05 AM (6 years, 11 days ago) |
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Why isn't Zim your av?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: hamloaf]
#24925083 - 01/19/18 08:31 AM (6 years, 11 days ago) |
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hamloaf said: The main difference between outdoor vs indoor grows has little to do with temperature (given the species acceptable temperature range is provided) rather, outdoors the micro kingdoms are balanced coupled with with plenty of fresh air. Indoors, however, the invader spore load is tipped way in the favor of the invader spores coupled with minimal fresh air.
Another variable people don't take into consideration is in the wild cube myc has a temp buffer to keep it from becoming too hot. It's not chilling at the abient air temp (especially not in the direct sun) when we think tropics we think hot because we flock to the sun. Cubes favor slightly cooler temps in the wild too. We just don't consider the temp wild substrate sits at naturally. We think about air temps.
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van hatton
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tryptkaloids]
#24925122 - 01/19/18 08:50 AM (6 years, 11 days ago) |
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Would you spawn a jar that recovered in 24~ hours
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Fun part is figuring out what works best for you
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