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mushboy
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TheMadHatter420 said:
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van hatton said: I dislike those plastic plates.
I've been using 4oz mason jars for plates and brfc works well for me.
The plates were poured 2 months ago I've been keeping them around for spores.
Flamed the parts of the scalpel that would go over open media.
Shit blows my mind I can get clean lc and grains that recover in 12 hours but if I touch a plate it's all fucked 
The answers are sporadic thru the post sorry 
Bro that's when you say fuck it and go flow hood.
nah, thats when you pour more LC and spawn more clean grains then you know what to do with. fuck a hood
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AyePlus said: Did you wipe the petris down with iso before introducing to SAB?
petris should be kept inside the sleeves they came in, only opened inside the SAB when they are being poured.. opening the sleeves outside the box just to wipe the outside of the petri is foolish. you are introducing 'vectors' just to wipe them off
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madhatter2
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy]
#24923128 - 01/18/18 01:04 PM (6 years, 12 days ago) |
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100% colonized Rye jars: about 6 or so of the grains from what I can see have small black dots/spots about the size of a pen tip. Is this black mold? And considering that the amount of this stuff is so minimal will it take over?
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tryptkaloids
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy]
#24923133 - 01/18/18 01:05 PM (6 years, 12 days ago) |
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My opinion is that hoods should be used as a means of ramping/speeding up production, not as a means to avoid contams
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: madhatter2]
#24923140 - 01/18/18 01:06 PM (6 years, 12 days ago) |
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madhatter2 said: 100% colonized Rye jars: about 6 or so of the grains from what I can see have small black dots/spots about the size of a pen tip. Is this black mold? And considering that the amount of this stuff is so minimal will it take over?

I would spawn it depending on recovery times. Doesn't look like mold ime
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Leftfield420
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Been loving mine even though I need a bigger table to sit it on
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tryptkaloids]
#24923153 - 01/18/18 01:11 PM (6 years, 12 days ago) |
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tryptkaloids said: My opinion is that hoods should be used as a means of ramping/speeding up production, not as a means to avoid contams
I guess that's why they are in just about every lab? They are a great tool for avoiding contams and make life easier.
Still air boxes have their place too.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Leftfield420]
#24923154 - 01/18/18 01:13 PM (6 years, 12 days ago) |
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I have no doubt they are nice as fuck. I just don't think throwing out a perfectly good sab because you can't get a clean plate is very reasonable
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grainbrain
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tryptkaloids]
#24923168 - 01/18/18 01:20 PM (6 years, 12 days ago) |
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The still air box is like wiping your ass with a pinecone. The flowhood gives you godlike powers.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy]
#24923172 - 01/18/18 01:21 PM (6 years, 12 days ago) |
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mushboy said:
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AyePlus said: Did you wipe the petris down with iso before introducing to SAB?
petris should be kept inside the sleeves they came in, only opened inside the SAB when they are being poured.. opening the sleeves outside the box just to wipe the outside of the petri is foolish. you are introducing 'vectors' just to wipe them off
Wow you must think I’m a fucking moron. thumbs down to you too, dick.
He said they were poured 2 months ago so they probably werent in an unopened sleeve. Even if theye were in a sleeve or a ziplock that should have been thoroughly sanitized with iso before entering clean or still air
I sometimes wrap individual extra plates for use as needed, when I have 5 or more extra they usually go back in the sleeve. 4 go in a clean ziplock. 3 or less I just wrap and put on the shelf.
Obviously a presterilized sleeve doesnt get opened anywhere but in front of a flow hood or in a SAB. But plates poured two months ago are also obviously not an unopened bag.
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TheMadHatter420
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tryptkaloids]
#24923174 - 01/18/18 01:24 PM (6 years, 12 days ago) |
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tryptkaloids said: My opinion is that hoods should be used as a means of ramping/speeding up production, not as a means to avoid contams
I had problems using a sab properly, hood fixed 98% of my issues.
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mushboy
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: grainbrain] 1
#24923177 - 01/18/18 01:24 PM (6 years, 12 days ago) |
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id say the godlike powers lay in the person who bypasses what others obsess over to reach the end goal: grow ton of shrooms. van couldnt get his petri came down.. so he mastered another approach that didnt involve spending money on gadgets.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy] 1
#24923188 - 01/18/18 01:29 PM (6 years, 12 days ago) |
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To each their own. I felt the $ spent was worth it to cut out some stress and gain some comfort ability. I guess it also has to do with where you intend to take your mycology. If intended to stay as a hobby, it may not be worth it. If one intends to expand into edibles to sell, then it is worth it to make the jump as soon as you capable, well that's my opinion.
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van hatton
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy]
#24923194 - 01/18/18 01:33 PM (6 years, 12 days ago) |
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I still want a hood guys gunna do bags at some point and messing with bags in an sab is 
They were in a ziplock bag 
I just used some to put spores on most were pretty clean.
Maybe I should just use a loop to transfer everything is going to lc anyways.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy]
#24923204 - 01/18/18 01:36 PM (6 years, 12 days ago) |
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I have very few issues working in a sab and when I do I can usually track down where I fucked up, which is usually from me bumping the sides of the arm holes or accidentally having something that isn't sterile pass over open media but that's rare.
My only beef with sab work is lack of comfort and reduced visibility. Hoods seem nice and all but I think they're hyped up more than they really deserve. It doesn't fix poor technique, and plenty of people have great grows using only a sab.
If you're making a shit ton of spawn a week or working on isolation I can see why one would make the investment, but for most hobbyists it's just overkill imo
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: 00Burnout] 1
#24923239 - 01/18/18 01:48 PM (6 years, 12 days ago) |
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Since I built my Dexter lab my sab work has been 99% clean. I was having major issues before

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Just_A_Noob]
#24923252 - 01/18/18 01:52 PM (6 years, 12 days ago) |
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I wish I had the space for that, my girl would kill me if I put up another plastic structure in our house lol.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Just_A_Noob]
#24923256 - 01/18/18 01:55 PM (6 years, 12 days ago) |
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My opinion is hoods are under rated. Just because you have problems with a SAB, doesn't meant you will with a hood, but also will not fix dumb mistakes. Just because someone has issues with a sab, doesn't mean they have piss poor sterile tek. I just move to fast and can not keep air still in a sab, but I have fairly good sterile tek, thus a hood works great for me.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: 00Burnout]
#24923291 - 01/18/18 02:07 PM (6 years, 12 days ago) |
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00Burnout said: I have very few issues working in a sab and when I do I can usually track down where I fucked up, which is usually from me bumping the sides of the arm holes or accidentally having something that isn't sterile pass over open media but that's rare.
My only beef with sab work is lack of comfort and reduced visibility. Hoods seem nice and all but I think they're hyped up more than they really deserve. It doesn't fix poor technique, and plenty of people have great grows using only a sab.
If you're making a shit ton of spawn a week or working on isolation I can see why one would make the investment, but for most hobbyists it's just overkill imo
Hit the nail on the head. Def not needed at all but I do waaay more agar work now that I have one and enjoy it much much more and while I had a 90% or better success rate in SAB the hood bumped it to 99% and I’ve only had bacteria and yeast so far so I know it was probably my technique, which I am still adjusting since its a little different than working in the sab.. I used to dread SAB sessions because of the discomfort and would rarely do G2g’s because it was barely big enough, but working in front of my new hood is a breeze .
Now I finish my planned workload and look for more transfers to do. I am going to be making spawn for 2000+ edible and medicinal logs and a couple woodchip beds this year and am currently looking to rent a garage or warehouse to fruit lions mane and reishi indoors for direct mkt to local herb shops and restaraunts. I also intend to learn plant tissue culture soon so the hood has mutiple uses for me. Plus it keeps the air in my house nice and clean. I only spent a weekend and about 300-350 to build my 18x24”, and most of that was buying a new filter from FP. If you are willing to wait a couple weeks for your filter and build it out of cheaper wood you could likely build one for under 200$. Less than 2 days pay for most people. IMO very worth it, I’m super happy about it. Grow all of the mushrooms!
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00Burnout
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Idk man, I see a lot of chatter on here about people wanting a hood, tbh I'm one of them. I just feel like people treat it like a cure all for contams instead of a tool that can increase productivity and efficiency. It's all really opinion and arguments could be made on either side till the end of time.
I definitely get ya on moving to fast in a sab. The longer I work in one the faster I move and I'm more prone to make mistakes.
One of these days I'll build a hood, but right now it's not practical.
That's badass ayeplus, I just recently got into edibles and my blue oysters are pinning nicely despite higher than ideal temps. My golden oysters aren't as aggressive and I'm not sure if I'll get much from them.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: 00Burnout]
#24923516 - 01/18/18 03:32 PM (6 years, 12 days ago) |
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I love my hood, I can stand and work freely...plus it's 4ft long so I can do a shit load of work at once
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