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Greg
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: bodhisatta]
#23767018 - 10/24/16 02:29 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I had a nice radiator style heater I recently got rid of too, damn...
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Greg]
#23767022 - 10/24/16 02:31 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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heaters dry out rooms really quickly but if you have the radiator type you can put a tray of water on the top to try to keep the room humidity from getting outrageously low.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Greg]
#23767084 - 10/24/16 02:52 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Greg said: I feel like these jars are growing a bit too slowly... 10 days growth, two different varieties of cubes and two jars of wild Pan cyan:

A2Gd each jar with a small wedge.
The temps in this room have been all over the place, maybe that's why? Thoughts?
I'm going to guess the second pic is cube myc?
Haven't read any other replies yet but imle that looks about right for one wedge of agar. I gave mine a quick shake at this point moving only the top half of grains around. They recovered in a couple days and colonized roughly 1/3 of the jar. I shook again thoroughly at that point and had fully colonized grain shortly after.
After this experience I began inoculation with 6 wedges per jar with better results. So take that with a grain of salt.
What cha got on top there?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Greg]
#23767094 - 10/24/16 02:55 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Greg said: Well I mean, to keep the room at 60F I'm going to have to run a heater. Otherwise it's going to dip down in the 50s every other night like I said.
I don't mind waiting a bit longer because of the temps either, but if it's going to negatively affect my grows 
I apologize, didn't realize it'd go under 60.
Damn man. You huddle up with blankets or something? I know how bills are expensive and bullshit, but sounds like your living in quite a cold home?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Moabfighter]
#23767122 - 10/24/16 03:03 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Dude 50s are my preferred room temps in the winter months. Perfect for a good night sleep. Shitty for PF tek. Not to mention bills
Also nice tidbit about high nute agar there dankington
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: ComebackKid]
#23767129 - 10/24/16 03:04 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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ComebackKid said: I'm going to guess the second pic is cube myc?
Haven't read any other replies yet but imle that looks about right for one wedge of agar. I gave mine a quick shake at this point moving only the top half of grains around. They recovered in a couple days and colonized roughly 1/3 of the jar. I shook again thoroughly at that point and had fully colonized grain shortly after.
After this experience I began inoculation with 6 wedges per jar with better results. So take that with a grain of salt.
What cha got on top there?
Cubes:

Cyans:

By on top I assume you mean the lids? Just standard RTV silicone and SFD lids:

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Moabfighter said: I apologize, didn't realize it'd go under 60.
Damn man. You huddle up with blankets or something? I know how bills are expensive and bullshit, but sounds like your living in quite a cold home?
This room in particular gets really cold especially mid-winter, it's the biggest room in this house and further away from the woodstove and fireplace than the rest of the rooms. Kind of a poor choice for a grow room, but it's what I have at the moment
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Greg]
#23767170 - 10/24/16 03:17 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'm liking what's going on there. May be due for an upgrade
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: ComebackKid]
#23767243 - 10/24/16 03:39 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I use the ass end of my home too. It stays abit colder than the rest of the house, between 64 and 68 I'd say. I tell myself the lower temps keep the contams down. Sounds like you need more heat for sure though. I'd say use a radiant heater, but man last year two of those ran my power bill up by quite a good chunk. Don't get me wrong, if an extra 30, 40 bucks a month isn't a big deal for you, it'll work exactly as you need it to. They're quite safe in my experience too.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Moabfighter]
#23767424 - 10/24/16 04:34 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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i really like the Dr Heater style infrared heaters, big solid wood with a fairly accurate thermostat.
i keep one in my fruiting room, and it does a fantastic job keeping the temps stable at 72, where the room often goes down in the 50s without it
i have a hygrometer/thermometer and a humidifier running in there with it, and make sure the humidity doesnt get crazy low (usually stays around 60%). my crazy ass also runs a fan in the same room, on a timer.
ive been testing a bunch of different stuff, and have had some great results using pasty's micropore monotubs and bodhi's lid-off technique, misting several times a day to prevent the substrate drying out. it would dry out quickly if i did not mist often
this has been for testing what happens when i supply the highest amount of FAE and surface evaporation that i can, and supply as much water as possible without allowing it to pool. this is a very high maintenance experimental setup though, i would recommend only using the humidifier and Dr Heater , and being conscious of the sub moisture
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: c10h12n2o]
#23767451 - 10/24/16 04:42 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Thanks for the Dr. heater tip
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Marty Mycfly]
#23767483 - 10/24/16 04:51 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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An infrared heater sounds awesome! I suppose it doesn't dehumidify your room too much? Now that my area has cooled down I can really ramp up my grows! I wish I usually had a problem with cold because it's so much easier and cheaper to make the room warmer.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Kenetic]
#23767547 - 10/24/16 05:14 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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lol i know right! i moved to the PNW from the deep south, and it is mushroom heaven out here so much different than back home, in terms of climate and available supplies
i think the dr heater and other wooder infrared heaters of that sort will probably dry out the air a lot, i probably couldnt get away with using it if i didnt also have a humidifier (one of those vornado ones with the fan on top) running 24/7)
i was originally planning on using a temperature controller and setting up some pretty fancy equipment to try to maintain the environment, but ended up just goin with the dr heater and misting a lot, it has worked great but requires a close eye on the moisture level on the surface of substrate (especially with the additional fan and the lids off, like i am doing haha)
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Kenetic] 1
#23767548 - 10/24/16 05:14 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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RH lowers unless you add more moisture. if you had a closed box at 50F and 50% RH and you warmed that box up to 100F the RH would be closer to 20%. the absolute humidity measured as mass per volume would be the same, and since the units of mass and volume are not comparable to each other it's not a percentage. RH is a percentage. it's the percentage of humidity in air relative to the maximum saturation point at that given temperature.
so just raising the temperature makes no difference to the absolute humidity(not really used by anyone but some scientists and physics homework) but it makes a big difference to the RH.
you need to also add more moisture as you raise the temperature.
IR and radiant heaters don't dry out the room as quickly as one with red hot elements.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: bodhisatta]
#23768863 - 10/25/16 02:25 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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c10h12n2o what is the mushroom in your profile picture? thing is crazy
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: liloldme]
#23768895 - 10/25/16 03:02 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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excellent explanation of the dynamics of heat and humidity bodhi 
@liloldme: pretty cool right? i love that thing! it is called Phallus indusiatus, a variety of stinkhorn also called the long net stinkhorn. the stinkhorns are some of the coolest looking things on the planet, so beautiful
i think i first saw it in a david attenborough documentary called the Private Life of Plants (im obsessed with his work), and have been fascinated by it ever since i would love to culture it
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: c10h12n2o]
#23768907 - 10/25/16 03:17 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Very cool. I feel like the net serves an important purpose. Like it doesn't have a large spore drop and uses the net to catch insects temporarily to spread them instead.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: liloldme]
#23769171 - 10/25/16 07:41 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Greg]
#23769174 - 10/25/16 07:45 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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How long can I keep quart jars going before going to bulk? Does colonization slow down too much after its done with the grains? Outside circumstances have made it so I'll have to wait some 3 weeks or so until I can do all the tubs that I want to.
On another note, how many quarts can I add to CVG for an extra umph? I was thinking 7-8
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Greg]
#23769176 - 10/25/16 07:47 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Greg
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23769180 - 10/25/16 07:48 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Pastywhyte said: abert did a grow that kicked ass.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20024228/fpart/1/vc/1
that's actually the one I just linked 
Edit: Rereading those makes me kick myself for not starting with mushroom growing earlier on. Last house I was in had recurring stinkhorn colonies sprouting up every year...
Edited by Greg (10/25/16 08:03 AM)
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