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PiptheGreAtest
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: dankington]
#23756374 - 10/20/16 10:21 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ok thanks, but when you take a spore print you are able to make a agar sample or LC so you don't have to keep getting spore syringes right. And when doing G2G how much colonize substrate does it take to convert the next jar. Thus my first grow so kinda full of questions would u recommend casing?
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dankington
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so much question. Yeh. You can take the spore print to agar. Just a little bit goes a long way. Spores also carry bacteria and/or mold so the less you use, the easier it will be to clean.
Don't do spores to LC. LC is a nutritious and delicious concoction. Because spores are never sterile, that which is riding along with them will also thrive in the LC.
A jar must be 100% colonized before you can attempt to use it to inoculate other grain spawn. You should ensure your growth is very clean before attempting this, and it should be done in a SAB or in front of a flowhood.
Here's a good place to start reading (because you have a lot of reading to do): https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20315382#20315382
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Boogieman47
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Spores to agar never straight to lc but yes a print will last forever perse ... a jar of grain is spawn not substrate the sub is your grow material hpoo coir straw ect... 4 to 5 jars to a 66 qt tub i would depending on your tub size i would do a tub with 5 and your extra make 10 then make another 20 jars so you are loaded fully colonized jars can be kept in a fridge for storage
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Boogieman47]
#23756472 - 10/20/16 11:04 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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ive heard several people mention that "removing a core" nonsense lately, not really sure where its coming from. my guess is it is someone confused about "super spawning" who tried to explain it to someone who is trying to sound smart by telling new growers what they heard about
my buddy dankington is exactly right, anyone who would recommend that has no clue what they are talking about. they must be recommending it a lot too, because i have heard several people ask about this lately
the main problem is that it is completely confused about the basics: spawn, substrate, expanding, etc.. it is someone who has no idea what they are talking about. spawn can be expanded so easily, and new tubs can be created so efficiently, cutting a chunk and replacing it with manure is absolute nonsense
bulk is so easy if you do it right, and in 2016 there is no excuse to do it wrong
there are about 100 people who "know how to grow shrooms" or "have grown a ton of shrooms" for every person who actually knows how to grow mushrooms. and getting a fruit or 2 is not the same as understanding
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bodhisatta 
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: c10h12n2o]
#23756499 - 10/20/16 11:14 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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it's like the current year
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Edmunter
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: bodhisatta]
#23757057 - 10/21/16 05:55 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Trump said it and hes gunna get the Canadians to pay for it
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Edmunter]
#23757332 - 10/21/16 08:44 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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anyone know how many quarts of rye berrie grain i could fit into large mycobag?
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KenInVic
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Edmunter]
#23757552 - 10/21/16 10:10 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Edmunter said: Trump said it and hes gunna get the Canadians to pay for it
WTF??? What are you referring to?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: dankington] 1
#23757854 - 10/21/16 12:04 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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dankington said: A jar must be 100% colonized before you can attempt to use it to inoculate other grain spawn.[/url]
Does it thou? I don't do g2g but I've read on here that u can g2g with less than 100% jars.
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Boogieman47
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Munchauzen]
#23757869 - 10/21/16 12:07 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hey is exo terra good coir??
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natedawgnow
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Munchauzen]
#23757874 - 10/21/16 12:08 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I've done g2g into bags with jars that were less than 100%. Maybe it isn't optimal but it works
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filthyknees
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: natedawgnow]
#23757993 - 10/21/16 12:50 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yeah it does work
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: filthyknees]
#23758008 - 10/21/16 12:54 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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fair enough. Just doesn't seem like a great idea to me. I can see it working, but it's definitely going to add a possible vector to your project.
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Boogieman47
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: dankington]
#23758011 - 10/21/16 12:56 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ya i agree you can have something hiding waiting to let loose and why not wait the extra day or two for it to finish?
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tombosley8
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: filthyknees]
#23758020 - 10/21/16 01:00 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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edit:
I think that was to be as sure as possible that it is clean before expanding it.
wouldn't want to waste all the time and effort on a little impatience.
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Moabfighter
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tombosley8]
#23758418 - 10/21/16 03:53 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Any of you ever use worm castings in your sub or even spawn?
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c10h12n2o
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Moabfighter]
#23758455 - 10/21/16 04:10 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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also, there is probably a reason it isnt 100% colonized, either it hasnt had long enough or there is a problem, like bacterial colonies established on the parts that isnt colonized by cube myc
so yeah it would probably work, but is definitely bad form
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Edmunter]
#23758478 - 10/21/16 04:22 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Edmunter said: Trump said it and hes gunna get the Canadians to pay for it
Lol thought you were talking about tump for a second
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mrmazdarx9]
#23758523 - 10/21/16 04:40 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I thought he was until you pointed that out lmfao
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: ComebackKid]
#23758534 - 10/21/16 04:45 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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btw been meaning to ask, are any of yall mushcult people on overwatch?
it would be nice to group up and talk cult if so 
i dont get on too often, but its nice while waiting on grains to sterilize from time to time...
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