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Leftfield420
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: bodhisatta]
#24864009 - 12/23/17 02:10 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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Agreed, if they ask something that can be found in less than 2 minutes if they'd just use the search engine... They deserve the shitty responses they get...we've all done our share of reading through pages of info here...nobody gets a hand held walk through... If they'd just read a little before posting, it would save noobs from getting butthurt by the responses they get...I got my share of shitty responses when I found this site...but I didn't take anything anyone said to heart, I took it all in with open ears and it helped me out tremendously...
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mushboy
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Leftfield420] 1
#24864032 - 12/23/17 02:18 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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What i dont get is, the mushroom trashes the ego. But some people are sooooo fragile here. Butthurt in an instant.
How do they even eat and understand the fuckin mushroom??? Blows me away.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy]
#24864062 - 12/23/17 02:30 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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I think that’s because there are more people in cult that grow for profit than we would think. Some give it away with certain choice of words and context clues. People don’t listen and get butthurt when there is potential profit involved. They want to salvage failed grows or do weird/random shit in an attempt to improvise due to lacking the fundamentals that are necessary to grow, because if it succeeds in the slightest then that is money they would have been missing out on. The same ones that take on 5 projects and freak out when things start going awry and proceed to post about it but then refuse to take the advice that’s given
Might sound skewed but that’s my take on it.
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mushboy
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Germs]
#24864081 - 12/23/17 02:40 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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Reasonable assumption. honestly, that never occurred to me.
But it fills in the gaps fo-sho.
My totes and trays are as worthless as i am
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Leftfield420
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy]
#24864096 - 12/23/17 02:48 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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Right there is always a message for me when I trip...I actually wait until I need a good trip to find answers my ego won't accept in a normal state...but with mushrooms my ego takes the backseat and answers become clear as day...I'd hate not to be able to recieve the message and totally accept it.... My New Year's trip is usually just for fun though...And I concure with Germs too many trying to cash in... But thats how you get caught, too many people end up knowing and shit goes south quick....I do this for fun...it intrigues me and has kept my interest for the past almost 2 years...not many things can keep me entertained like myco work..all aspects of it...once I get my hood finished it's on...I'm gonna start cultivating gourmet mushrooms and maybe do 1 run of cubes per year
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Leftfield420]
#24864139 - 12/23/17 03:14 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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I am new to this site and I have found that 99% of people on here are more than willing to help and in the very beginning and still now I know I might ask questions that seem stupid to some or can be easily accessed by searching but honestly I fucking suck when it comes to the internet and the first month or 2 I joined I couldn't find any answers by searching because I WAS NOT USING THE SEARCH ENGINE CORRECTLY but after reading and finally understanding how to use it right things got a lot easier anyway I still love you guys and about people growing for profit fuck I wish I could make a profit I can barely give the damn things away lol
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Xerbia]
#24864144 - 12/23/17 03:16 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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Xerbia said: Has anyone been able to get ps cyans to germinate on agar? Having no luck here.
How would y'all go about using a ps cyans spore syringe?
I just had some germinate on lme agar and wood broth and grain soak water agar. I'd make a few more plates and see what happens. Sometimes I can not up 10 plates from a syringe or print and have only a few germinate.
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Leftfield420
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I think I'm gonna give some out as presents this year...missed x-mas last year but was just in time for new years eve lol....I took enough to give everyone some at the get together I went to
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Inocuole]
#24864194 - 12/23/17 03:35 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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van hatton said: I agree with this. Alot of people come askig for advice and some people are asses because they have repeated the same things over and over. I get it.
But I think the know it alls should receive dickhead responses depending on the situation.
Alot of people see us as being total asshats (depends).
There should be some easier way to access information because I keep seeing the same dam questions. For whatever reason they can't find it is beyond me because it's out there.
I know our mods have been working on cleaning things up to decrease the amount of simple questions.
We all have been a noob before.
To be fair there has been a huge improvement after the main site was updated with relevant info...
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Inocuole said: I haven't gotten on any noobs for anything like that in a bit. Is someone really being a dick in a totally nonhelpful way or are we defending shitty thread starters here? I know SOME FOLKS around here tend to look for people with bad ratings who are commonly disliked and act like they just got dealt a bad hand and like to be their "second chance savior" or whatever, where everyone else must be the ones that're irrational. I think those particular folks like to inflate their ego in the opposite way, by needlessly being "The good guy" when the recipient is not at all deserving.
You used to get on noobs but it was always justifiable. I guess I was slightly defending the shitty thread starters here, but I was more trying to encourage people to give more educated advice with there being so many different ways to skin a cat. Telling someone to use the search function would be a lot more helpful than some of the stuff I've been seeing lately. I don't want to single anyone out because I have respect for you all I just wanted to inspire people to give a second thought at the advice they have been giving
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Leftfield420]
#24864198 - 12/23/17 03:37 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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I don't really talk to a lot of people it's not that I am an introvert I just hate how fucking fake everyone seems to be these days what ever happened to your word being your bond? You can't fucking find many people who live by that these days and it fucking sucks
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy] 1
#24864217 - 12/23/17 03:47 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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mushboy said: What i dont get is, the mushroom trashes the ego. But some people are sooooo fragile here. Butthurt in an instant.
How do they even eat and understand the fuckin mushroom??? Blows me away.
I think a lot of them are just fucking kids.
I remember being a member when I was just a kid (different account). My mind was a hurricane of ideas, oh and I knew everything. Too bad I was shit at execution.
I tried to learn how to answer questions on here by pretending to know what they were. Or I'd post my theories as facts and ask what people thought. "Does this look right?" is everywhere in the forum. Everyone in that boat seems to want personalized attention from a TI. This is less of an issue in Hunting forums, because it's more of a wham-bam-ID-this-random-terrible-pic affair. But I think I like this current iteration of how things are run better than at any other point that I've noticed.
20 years later, I am much more methodical, my execution is better, but my creativity and resistance to dogmatic paradigms has certainly shrunk. Mostly, I don't post, because I can actually see that there is far more talent on here than anything I could come up with.
Every year that passes I see that balance shift further.
I love this forum for it's history, and it's amazing talent that is so inspiring to read. So many people come and go.
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Xerbia
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Leftfield420]
#24864230 - 12/23/17 03:56 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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Leftfield420 said: I think I'm gonna give some out as presents this year...missed x-mas last year but was just in time for new years eve lol....I took enough to give everyone some at the get together I went to
Cool thanks man. I may try a new agar recipe and see if that does the trick.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: ComebackKid]
#24864293 - 12/23/17 04:24 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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ComebackKid said: I didn't really know where to post this, but I figured general discussion is a good fit.
Uhhhgh I'm sorry guys. I'm not one to really complain about shit but something has been bugging me more and more around here lately. I've been seeing a hell of a lot more snarky unhelpful responses lately to noobs asking fairly simple questions.
For me, fairly simple questions deserve fairly simple answers and that's not what what I'm seeing out there. Instead I'm seeing noobs bombarded with unhelpful advice, alternative or advanced methods, and just plain dickheadishness.
I understand when a noob gets harassed because they come in acting like they know whats what and has nothing to learn. But I'm talking about people asking for simple advice and getting shit help from members that I know have a lot more to offer than a sneer response.
I know many of you are answering the same questions over and over and it can get monotonous. But if you have nothing helpful to add then why bother responding? It would be nice to see a lot more educated and thoughtful advice in the new year. That's all
You´re a good dude and you have a very important point and also a very controversial one. It´s controversial because both sides of this coin can be rationalized and all the cases are unique as well. People will probably always have different opinions when an experienced grower is faced with tedious, repeating energy draining questions over and over again, and sometimes at that even smirky remarks or stuff like that. How much I agree with you and applaud you I also can understand why this happens and probably will never stop completely. I have not been very active for so long but I get the impression that mush cult is moving in a positive direction when it comes to this if we compare to a few years older threads, at least that´s my impression of it.
That shit gets to me too man, that´s probably why my PM is so busy with PF questions EVERY day, I don´t mind it a bit, sometimes I forget to reply to everyone cause it´s so many questions all the time, but for me the reward is knowing I have made someone so happy just by typing a few words and clicking send. The way I feel it I´m gonna catch shit NO MATTER how I behave, theres ALWAYS gonna be that persona that doesn't like something about how you conduct yourself in here, Ive already been called a few names by some, trying to somehow implicate that I think I´m better that others. That´s okej, that´s just a minor dent to my EGO. Reward of helping others and making people happy is the ultimate reward for ME and I respect that others have different opinions.
I´m not gonna forget spraying the inside of the tub before placing the plastic inside anytime soon, so thanks again for that
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Mateja]
#24864313 - 12/23/17 04:36 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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 Day 5. Got the holes taped up, gonna fruit in a couple days
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Leftfield420
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Mateja]
#24864314 - 12/23/17 04:36 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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I looked at all of the shitty responses I got as constructive criticism from my peers.... And honestly I would have never got this far without that criticism....saved me a lot of time and frustration not to mention money, hearing the good and shitty responses...I'm thankful for all of the info people gave me in the beggining
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy]
#24864675 - 12/23/17 08:07 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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mushboy said: What i dont get is, the mushroom trashes the ego. But some people are sooooo fragile here. Butthurt in an instant.
How do they even eat and understand the fuckin mushroom??? Blows me away.
This!!!!!! I honestly tried to be a lot more involved in this community but it’s either people can’t handle the truth or they take shit in the most literal way possible. At the end of the day we’re all felons! Conversation over
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Eh well I'm getting a little older now and I don't have all the hours of the day to slay noobs so yeah I guess I might be transitioning into a gentler disposition. Still not about to put up with no shit though.
Still, people actually just being rude for no reason can go fuck themselves. You gonna be a dick, you better eloquently explain why.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: ComebackKid]
#24864717 - 12/23/17 08:33 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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ComebackKid said: I don't want to single anyone out because I have respect for you
from my point of view, id expect... no, i demand to be informed if the douchery was on my part? and if its valid, i apologize. its happened a few times. ill never get angry for someone being honest.
but if its just like 'ugh you dont have to be a dick' but nothin relevant to the advice given? then i shrug that off really quick. not that i think your talking about me but you know.. like a said. i can be a real ass sometimes
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Leftfield420
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy]
#24864731 - 12/23/17 08:44 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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mushboy said:
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ComebackKid said: I don't want to single anyone out because I have respect for you
from my point of view, id expect... no, i demand to be informed if the douchery was on my part? and if its valid, i apologize. its happened a few times. ill never get angry for someone being honest.
but if its just like 'ugh you dont have to be a dick' but nothin relevant to the advice given? then i shrug that off really quick. not that i think your talking about me but you know.. like a said. i can be a real ass sometimes
I can be a dick sometimes...but not just for the hell of it...if I'm being a dick to someone it's usually well deserved..for the most part I'm chill as fuck
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Leftfield420] 1
#24864769 - 12/23/17 09:25 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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At what point did giving relevant information, wether it be in a nice or dick head way matter. If people can’t use a simple search function, why do other people feel the need to cater to those who aren’t capable of putting in the time in the first place. Seems like trying to save someone from drowning who doesn’t know how to breathe
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