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Mateja



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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Ferather]
#24861440 - 12/22/17 04:26 AM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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I was thinking about something guys..
With the hole design on the typical 60L monotub, 6 two inch holes stuffed with polyfil, you would be able to cram in many small animals in there and they wouldn´t suffocate. The FAE in there is more than enough for living breathing animals. So how much oxygen does a cube colony really need to survive and stay healthy? Could it be so that evaporation is what is the most important about FAE and not necessarily oxygen delivery to the organism?
I will do experiments soon where I will introduce FAE from fruiting until I see pins, after pins begin to show I will put the lid on the tub and tape up the holes and leave the lid on at all times. This experiment should probably point me in the general direction of state of affairs.
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RomeoPapa
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Mateja] 1
#24861528 - 12/22/17 06:55 AM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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Mushrooms can grow in really shitty O2 deficient environments. Not very well but they grow. I'm not sure but I think the only way you could test your theory with any accuracy is if you had a true isolate. There are just too many variables in an MS grow. I'm not trying to trash your plan. I like it and wish I had more time for playing with things like you are. Keep us posted!
Oh yeah, how many cats do you think you could cram in a mono and they still have enough oxygen to live? I'm kidding guys! Don't get butthurt!
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Mad Season
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: RomeoPapa] 1
#24861544 - 12/22/17 07:12 AM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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No indoor grow of mine has ever compared to the outdoor monsters I've seen and picked. They seem to love outside much more than indoors, at least IME. IMO even our current designs aren't supplying them with the best fae they can get. We are actually purposefully starving them of fae to make our lives easier (not having to mist/replace evaporated water as much).
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: RomeoPapa]
#24861547 - 12/22/17 07:13 AM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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I think I'm going to build a vertical flow hood.. Once I have supplies needed I'm gonna talk to a dude I know that is a badass welder and see how much it would cost me to build a nice bench, thinking about using "1" galvanized square tubing to build the frame..with a nice stainless steel work area....
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TheMadHatter420
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: RomeoPapa] 1
#24861549 - 12/22/17 07:14 AM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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The FAE plays a big part in the EVAP. If it was a sealed container you wouldn't get evaporation once the air is at 100% humidity. The evaporation happens largely because of the FAE.
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Mateja



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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: RomeoPapa]
#24861571 - 12/22/17 07:29 AM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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My setup now is 20L tubs mono design stuffed with poly, and they are all tightly packed next to each other on the floor so the bottom holes are pretty much hidden away from the only source of draft inside the closed grow room which is the humidifyer. The humidifyer produces only a faint draft and this time i kept the lids on at all times, only lift the lids once a day or every other day to mist a few times. And all fruits where thriving off bacterial spawn, stipes are dense and no fuzz anywhere. First I thought I needed a fan but now I´m not so sure anymore. I just want to find the spot where I get signals from the culture that it wants more oxygen, then I´ll know.
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RomeoPapa
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Mateja]
#24861627 - 12/22/17 08:12 AM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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True that Mad. My biggest fruits have come from spent or tammed subs put in an old flower pot in the shade and soaked down every other day or so with a pump up garden sprayer. It was summertime so the temps would get mid 90s sometimes. These cubes have an awesome will to survive and bless us with their flesh.
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TheMadHatter420
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: RomeoPapa]
#24861630 - 12/22/17 08:16 AM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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Their goal in life is to reproduce and complete the cycle, and they do a damn good job of it.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Mateja]
#24861664 - 12/22/17 08:44 AM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
Mateah said: My setup now is 20L tubs
20l tubs are small. They dont even need holes.
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Kyshroomer19xx
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy]
#24861672 - 12/22/17 08:49 AM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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I have a couple lasagna pans that re ready to fruit but I don't have room in my SGFC for both I was thinking about putting the clear plastic lid on top of one. Would I need to cut a couple small holes in I and put micro pore tape on them or do you guys think it would be fine to just put it on it without the holes?
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van hatton
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So with the basic soak and boil rye method are we basically malting the rye?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: van hatton]
#24861729 - 12/22/17 09:16 AM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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No. You would soak them drain them let them sprout and then dry them with heat.
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Kyshroomer19xx
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: bodhisatta]
#24861787 - 12/22/17 09:49 AM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hey bod can you check out my post about the lid on the lasagna pan an let me know what you think I would appreciate it
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van hatton
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: bodhisatta]
#24861791 - 12/22/17 09:53 AM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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I only ask because I've had seed germ while soaking. Figured if the germination process was started it would allow more sugars.
My understanding of making any kind of alcohol is extremely limited.
Thanks bod
-------------------- If I ever give out misinformation please inform me so I can have the correct information. Tmethyl said: Chuck Norris once roundhouse kicked a monotub that wasn't pinning fast enough. The force of the kick rearranged the genetics of the mushrooms, we now call them Penis Envy. Caps McGee said:
Fun part is figuring out what works best for you
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bodhisatta 
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Quote:
van hatton said: I only ask because I've had seed germ while soaking. Figured if the germination process was started it would allow more sugars.
My understanding of making any kind of alcohol is extremely limited.
Thanks bod
Malting develops the enzymes that can turn the starch into sugars during the mash. Quote:
Kyshroomer19xx said: I have a couple lasagna pans that re ready to fruit but I don't have room in my SGFC for both I was thinking about putting the clear plastic lid on top of one. Would I need to cut a couple small holes in I and put micro pore tape on them or do you guys think it would be fine to just put it on it without the holes?
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Kyshroomer19xx
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: bodhisatta]
#24861849 - 12/22/17 10:24 AM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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I guess I will give it a shot I mean it's basically the same concept as tub just way smaller
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tryptkaloids
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If it seals to the tray good I would add a couple holes. If it isn't air tight then it shouldn't need any modification
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van hatton
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: bodhisatta]
#24861923 - 12/22/17 11:12 AM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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-------------------- If I ever give out misinformation please inform me so I can have the correct information. Tmethyl said: Chuck Norris once roundhouse kicked a monotub that wasn't pinning fast enough. The force of the kick rearranged the genetics of the mushrooms, we now call them Penis Envy. Caps McGee said:
Fun part is figuring out what works best for you
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Kyshroomer19xx
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: van hatton]
#24861972 - 12/22/17 11:35 AM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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It doesn't seal super tight but I have a few of the lids so if I notice the sub drying out then I will swap it out for one without holes a tape. I have a question I had a syringe that was was gifted to me it was I assume an LC I got it on 11-19 and put it directly I the fridge with foil around it I put some of it to agar and the rest in a jar of WBS. It was ALT 7 do you guys think it was still good to use?
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Edited by Kyshroomer19xx (12/22/17 11:39 AM)
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00Burnout
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As long as the lc was clean you should be good. LCs keep for awhile in the fridge.
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