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bodhisatta 
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: bodhisatta]
#24856394 - 12/19/17 06:06 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ferather
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: bodhisatta]
#24856423 - 12/19/17 06:17 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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Also a side note: Lignicolous mycelium do better with trace plant phenol's, over trace sucrose. Phenol's contain much more carbon, Lignin: C31-H34-O11, Sucrose: C12-H22-O11.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Ferather]
#24856506 - 12/19/17 07:20 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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You guys want a good laugh check out this reddit post and grow chamber
https://www.reddit.com/r/shrooms/comments/7kvjnc/help_please/
What in the fuck...
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TheMadHatter420
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: PreparationH]
#24856565 - 12/19/17 08:14 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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A dumb noob is what, lol.
I remember reading a post one time, on here like 10 years ago. Dude straight up asked if he could burry a log half way in sand in an aquarium. Smear the log with shit and grow shrooms. Like he thought they would just magically appear because he smeared shit on a log.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: PreparationH] 1
#24856572 - 12/19/17 08:18 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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PreparationH said: You guys want a good laugh check out this reddit post and grow chamber
https://www.reddit.com/r/shrooms/comments/7kvjnc/help_please/
What in the fuck...
When even reddit knows your shit is bad, it's really bad.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: bodhisatta]
#24856573 - 12/19/17 08:19 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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bodhisatta said: That plate doesn't have any concerning looking rings imo
That's actually what mycogone looks like on plates. I had it before from trying to grow a sketchy looking pan print I got. It was nasty. I was wondering where the mycogone came from so I let the plate sit and it grew over and then started forming clear and then amber droplets. This took a long time. If you enlarge it you can see how fuzzy and fluffy it is and the little liquid droplets forming. This is pretty much a pure plate of mycogone. Iknow because I'm the only weirdo who likes to watch contams grow out so I can watch their life cycle for research purposes and morbid curiosity. Burn it with fire!
So sorry about your loss Bod. It looks like I'm giving everyone mucor with all my talk of pin mold. Did you mix straw in with that sub? I see straw.
Edited by TheBlackCat (12/19/17 08:24 PM)
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Explicitdetail said: So here are the pics of the tub. Pretty positive it’s Mycogone

The way the tub looks make me even more suspicious that that plate is pretty much pure mycogone. That's kind of cool looking actually. I'm pretty sure that didn't come from your casing layer. You just grew a jar of mycogone myc and then transferred it by accident. I did that while trying to grow pans one time. I was so excited. I was like look at how fast my pans are colonizing. Did the jars colonize slightly faster than usual?
P.S. If you go to my photos I keep a section on contaminants. I don't know what happned to the photo of mycogone on agar I used to have. I do have photos of the tub of mycogone I had an a bag colonizing with mycogone in it. I don't share my other photos so people must think I only grow contaminants. 
Edited by TheBlackCat (12/19/17 09:48 PM)
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Josex
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: TheBlackCat] 1
#24856706 - 12/19/17 09:55 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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I can't talk to anyone irl about this horror so I need to lay it on y'all that are the only one that will inderstand.
Maybe some of you have seen me posting that I had a trich outbreak from some tubs months ago and that that gave me problems... Or that I found a wet towel in my backyard totally covered in green that a neighbour must have dropped and I blamed that for my trich problems...  Or that I bought an ion generator and that solved my trich problem for a while... 
All this is true but I was still having major issues even after removing what I thought were all the sources of mold and doing some major cleaning involving airing out, vacuuming, bleaching... several times.
It just didn't make sense I was still having issues, like blank plates contaminating without opening them, 20% of my agar trasnfers getting the mean and lots and lots of grain jars lost to trich.
It's been like this for months and I was losing it... out of 42 jars I nocced with some clones I only have 3 tubs to show and 5 shoeboxes, 26 jars lost out of 42 . The other day I did 14 jars and 11 contaminated with trich. 15 jars the other day and I lost 3. I have more success with agar than with pouring LC to grains because for pouring you need to tilt a heavy jar and open wide the lid of the receiving jar. You might think my technique sucks, but even when it really did suck back when I started I rarely saw any contams and now my technique is much much better, almost god-like (jk )
Thing is that I've been observing a correlation... The times when I got more contams were on windy days (even though all the windows and most blinds are permanently shut) and the days after. So it hit me that I should inspect my windows and blinds to see what was up. What I found was the worst nightmare a grower could ever encounter.
Turns out that the place where I grow is old af, the wood boxes where the blind rolls are in had huge gaps all around the perimeter... shone a flashlight on it and it was all green. I panicked when I saw this right in the room where I got my sab, grabbed a ladder and removed the front wood plank of the box to take a look and it was a trich fest, impossible to clean btw, a truly horrible sight. Couldn't put the front plank back in place because it got broken apart when I took it off and I didn't want to left that shit uncovered till the next day when I could buy a new plank.
So this is what I did you can judge:
 Right that moment I grabbed some tape and taped the bitch up good and I thought I made it pretty air tight, didn't even think I'd need to get a new plank. Next day I siliconed the gaps where the cord of the blind goes through, as shown in the pic.

Left if like that for one week thinking I made a pretty damn good job and I was safe, but then it all started again after a windy day, the tape didn't hold up. Trich was even growing beneath the tape, see those black dots?
 
I got 3 windows in the house with the exact same problem. 3 trich festivals pumping out ungodly clouds of spores into the house. With the other windowns I didn't make the same mistake I did with the one that's in my SAB room. I didn't remove the planks. Now I'm siliconing real good all the gaps around the boxes and all the gaps around the windows which are huge... those windows will never be opened agar till the day of judgement. Tomorrow I'm going to remove the tape from the window of my SAB room and nail a new plank and silicone it good afterwards.
I got these sterilized babies waiting till I finish all this madness.
 Gotta do another major cleaning after all is done. I swear to god I won't see more fucking trich again.
Oh and yeah... I don't live here
Edited by Josex (12/20/17 12:04 AM)
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bodhisatta 
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: TheBlackCat]
#24856769 - 12/19/17 10:55 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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Straw piece was from the oat spawn
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Josex]
#24856772 - 12/19/17 10:57 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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Thats impressive that you kept on inspite Of all that.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: JHOVA] 1
#24856789 - 12/19/17 11:27 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yeah it was pretty depressing. At least on agar trich shows withing 3 days but in jars? pfff it can show whenever it pleases, like as soon as 3 days or as late as when the jar looks almost colonized.
This summer was fucking horrible, couldn't grow because I was very busy at work so I could only do agar for months. It was depressing and even scary to enter the room where the plates where stored in only to find how many would have tammed out. Not only that, roaches were insfesting the place, and now I understand they were getting in the house from the huge gaps in the blind boxes, but didn't know then. They got all poisoned in the end, thank god.
Imagine getting off work all tired in summer, driving a long distance to my place, couldn't find parking most of the time cos my town is like the most crowded shit in summer, got inside, took one of my shoes off, started killin roaches, next go to my sab room, starting trashing moldy plates that weren't green yet and sterilizing the green ones. It was fucking hell, all summer I spent like that.
It's easy to say still air and technique trumps it all, but that's only true up to a point, I'm not sure if I had more O2 in the air than mold spores. If you get what I got you can be sure you are going to see lots of green, hell even the blank agar plates I had stored in a tote got the green.
I'm not complaining though, I've learned a lot from this. I've seen what mold is capable of, it's made me improve my technique tremendously and now I know if you have a mold problem you sure as hell haven't eliminated the source if you cleaned the place thoroughly and still have it.
But... still, you can spawn clean spawn to CVG in a moldy ass place and you won't have a problem,. TBC, you heard that? haha
Edited by Josex (12/19/17 11:46 PM)
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Bigbadwooof
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Josex]
#24856806 - 12/19/17 11:48 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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I really wish I could grow LSD... Where's the Tek for that, fellas? I feel like we need to get monsanto onboard here.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Josex]
#24856810 - 12/19/17 11:51 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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Josex said: Yeah it was pretty depressing. At least on agar trich shows withing 3 days but in jars? pfff it can show whenever it pleases, like as soon as 3 days or as late as when the jar looks almost colonized.
I've had green molds show up a week+ after my jars were fully colonized... I feel like we need to genetically engineer a green mold killing bacteria what is benign to mushroom cultures.. We need to get monsanto onboard here, fellas. We really do.
We could just kidnap some of their scientists and start a clandestine lab.. We need to solve this problem.
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Edited by Bigbadwooof (12/19/17 11:52 PM)
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TheMadHatter420
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Bigbadwooof]
#24857077 - 12/20/17 05:45 AM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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I had issues with mold growing on the wood of my ghetto backdoor. I scrubbed it with bleach and put a couple layers of paint on it. Problem solved. In your case you may need some spray paint to get into nooks and crevices. You should give that a try, sealing it up with fresh coats of paint. It has to help slow some of it down bro. I know your pain, as going into summer I was only having a 20% success rate due to mold.
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They make mold resistant paint
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tryptkaloids]
#24857208 - 12/20/17 07:31 AM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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I had some paint left over from painting the block walls in the basement. It is the stuff that keeps water from seeping through and dries a nice thick layer, so I went 2 coats of that.
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bodhisatta 
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Well im considering the wild texas shoebox = fucked. That performance = fucked. The other is a pesa shoebox. The pesa tub got fucked. The shoebox looks ok, but lackluster pinset but no obvious problem.
So 4 tubs 6 shoeboxes. 5 bricks of coir done in three batches. 4 different varieties some clones some ms(agar). And I get perhaps one kinda good shoebox out of it.
I haven't had a problem this bad in over a year and a half. 
And the only thing I did different this time was use a bunch of LC and needles lol.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: bodhisatta]
#24857699 - 12/20/17 12:15 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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Double check your procedures. It is possible that one could get to comfortable from continuous success and make a simple mistake that they don't notice.
Just an FYI, I feel like you, as a TC, posting your failure make you more credible and trustable. It shows that anyone at any time can hit the contam wall. I hope you get past it very quick bro.
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apparently bod is not a communist government, he doesn't hide his mistakes from the people and from other governments
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TheMadHatter420
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Mateja]
#24857738 - 12/20/17 12:33 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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I think it would make noobs feel more comfortable knowing it happens to the best.
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