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Germs
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: TheBlackCat]
#24846694 - 12/14/17 09:34 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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TheBlackCat said: So I have these escondido jars I've been staring at wondering if I should spawn them. They look clean and I don't see any metabolites but they took close to a month to colonize. They were from some spore syringes I had sitting around. I'm thinking maybe slightly bacterial due to the delay. But I'm not sure. My temps stay around 70.
Now lets say if it is a little bacterial is it still worth spawning? I have just enough for a shoebox. I still have a week or two before my new jars are ready. What is the likelihood of them still producing shrooms if they are just a little bacterial. Which who knows They might not be since I don't see metabolites. I guess I'll have to smell them later.
The likelihood is 46%. Are you willing to risk it?
I dunno. I have nothing else to do. If it smells ok does that make it more worth it?
Taste is more important. It should have an oaky afterbirth
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TheBlackCat
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Germs]
#24846747 - 12/14/17 10:02 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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Something about the words oaky afterbirth. It's like your talking about a wine and placenta tasting or something.
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00Burnout
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Germs]
#24846758 - 12/14/17 10:07 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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Thanks Germs and TBC. It was my sister's cat, idk if she even knows yet. I have my 2 cats, which I love to death, they were a real comfort. It's amazing the compassion and empathy our pets have for us, really they're more family than pets. I've lost several over the years due to a number of things, but this one hurt. Maybe because she was the last tie to my favorite pet, maybe because it was another piece of childhood lost idk.
Either way, sorry for dumping my depressing shit on you guys. I tend to vent my problems, I learned a long time ago bottling shit hurts worse, I'm just not so good at selecting my audience.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: 00Burnout]
#24846795 - 12/14/17 10:25 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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It's understandable. I probably would have sunk into a deep depression without mine. Like the kind you don't come back from. Who knows. But yeah. They are pretty awesome. I keep a ot of my pain in but when I cry it's weird. My cat meows and gets upset too and then lays on my chest which is something she rarely does unless I pick her up and put her there. Cats are awesome.
Ok. I'm about o take the plunge and knock these jars up. I'm like so psyched and so ready and now I'm just busy tiring myself out and using up my energy trying to find this torch. I took it out yesterday to melt one of the bars out of my shelf so I could install this humidifier and didn't put it back. I probably shouldn't have a torch anyways because I managed to set the shelf on fire. D'oh. But just a little bit. I blew it out before it got to serious. I'll have to have water on hand next time I try to soften plastic in case it ignites again.
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cronicr



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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: TheBlackCat]
#24846811 - 12/14/17 10:29 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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Spawn away tbc
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00Burnout
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: TheBlackCat]
#24846881 - 12/14/17 11:01 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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TheBlackCat said: It's understandable. I probably would have sunk into a deep depression without mine. Like the kind you don't come back from. Who knows. But yeah. They are pretty awesome. I keep a ot of my pain in but when I cry it's weird. My cat meows and gets upset too and then lays on my chest which is something she rarely does unless I pick her up and put her there. Cats are awesome.
Ok. I'm about o take the plunge and knock these jars up. I'm like so psyched and so ready and now I'm just busy tiring myself out and using up my energy trying to find this torch. I took it out yesterday to melt one of the bars out of my shelf so I could install this humidifier and didn't put it back. I probably shouldn't have a torch anyways because I managed to set the shelf on fire. D'oh. But just a little bit. I blew it out before it got to serious. I'll have to have water on hand next time I try to soften plastic in case it ignites again.
That's how mine acted, even Lucy and usually she won't go for more than a light petting. Lucy's personality reminds me a lot of Belle's, huge pain in the ass but the most affectionate thing when you least expect it or need it most. It's gonna be weird going over to my mom's and not seeing her on the back porch begging for attention she doesn't actually want.
God luck tbc, I wish you only the cleanest of spawn.
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00Burnout
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: 00Burnout]
#24846974 - 12/15/17 12:47 AM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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I know this has been a subject touched on before, but I've read that spent brewery grain can be used for oysters as a nitrogen supplement, not to mention the left over proteins and small amounts of sugar. I work at a microbrewery so I have access to a few hundred lbs of spent grain (we are tiny and use a 1bbl system atm and brew several times a week). I'm sure ph would need to be adjusted since a fair amount of our beers use a bit of acidulated malt (I'll have to refer back to the recipes for mash ph).
I've read a lot of talk on it with no follow ups (like shroom beer, which I had planned on doing...maybe truffle kombucha?). My guess is people tried with such a small margin of success that it never got much attention. I'd just hate to let something I can get for free go unused if I can.
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Aunit
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: 00Burnout]
#24847025 - 12/15/17 02:36 AM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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Why not be the guy to try it burnout? Set up a nice little experiment and dedicate some time to it. Sorry to hear about the cat too. I know I would be inconsolable if my pet passed. She makes everything about my day better. Hope you can mend and hope your experiment goes well.
Well guys, it finally happened. I got the trich after my 2nd flush. Worst part, it happened while I was in evacuation mode. I came back to babies that needed to be harvested badly and sadly a tub full of trich. Anyone got any tips for deep cleaning trich? Ways to proceed? My heart dropped when I saw it so any advice is appreciated. Should I move it to another spot now?
Edited by Aunit (12/15/17 02:57 AM)
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Cakewonder
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Mad Season]
#24847048 - 12/15/17 03:00 AM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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Mad Season said: IMO they're worth it. They also have sclerotia lol. One of the only pans which form sclerotia.
Does anyone have proof that their substrate bruised from handling and direct misting rather than dry conditions and/or contaminations? Been looking for someone who has experience with handling bruising on a sub, and it wasn't because of conditions. Personally I haven't ever seen any bruising from anything but dry conditions, yet every noob says you can get bruising from handling.
Ive had bruising, doesnt matter at all. I havent had a single substrate fail yet. Psilocybin will permeate the cake when it fruits so it only makes sense that it would show. Most of my cakes are blue like hell when they fruit and I handle them all the time, no damage in that. (gloves are good though)
Edited by Cakewonder (12/15/17 03:06 AM)
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00Burnout
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Aunit]
#24847052 - 12/15/17 03:02 AM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'm holding off on experimentation until I have a successful grow using tried and true methods. I haven't even properly pasteurized a sub yet so I need to make sure I'm good in that department. I could do them side by side though I suppose.
I still have a little more research to do, some material sourcing, and figuring out where exactly to keep my buckets.
Thanks for your condolences, I will be fine, it happens. It's just a painful reminder of how fragile life is, how easily it can be snuffed out at any moment and how much we take it for granted.
When I start experimenting with oysters I'll keep you all informed.
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Cakewonder
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: 00Burnout]
#24847053 - 12/15/17 03:04 AM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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00Burnout said: I'm holding off on experimentation until I have a successful grow using tried and true methods. I haven't even properly pasteurized a sub yet so I need to make sure I'm good in that department. I could do them side by side though I suppose.
I still have a little more research to do, some material sourcing, and figuring out where exactly to keep my buckets.
Thanks for your condolences, I will be fine, it happens. It's just a painful reminder of how fragile life is, how easily it can be snuffed out at any moment and how much we take it for granted.
When I start experimenting with oysters I'll keep you all informed.
good luck dude
Also try a PF TEK run:)
Edited by Cakewonder (12/15/17 03:05 AM)
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Cakewonder]
#24847084 - 12/15/17 04:02 AM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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Thanks Burnout. I could really use some clean cube spawn right about now.
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Ferather
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: 00Burnout] 1
#24847183 - 12/15/17 06:13 AM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ferather said: I just remembered I have Agrocybe aegerita fruits in the freezer, I might try an agar grow.
In that link you posted I read that they are attractive to flies, have you found that to be true? Interesting mushroom
The smell does, to me they smell like "potato peel", other's say "chestnut", or "damp something". Unfortunately the smell attracts gnats and other types to it, maybe intentional?
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00Burnout said: I know this has been a subject touched on before, but I've read that spent brewery grain can be used for oysters as a nitrogen supplement, not to mention the left over proteins and small amounts of sugar. I work at a microbrewery so I have access to a few hundred lbs of spent grain (we are tiny and use a 1bbl system atm and brew several times a week). I'm sure ph would need to be adjusted since a fair amount of our beers use a bit of acidulated malt (I'll have to refer back to the recipes for mash ph)...
Amylase, general:
α-Amylase: pH 6.7-7.0. < Any amount of glucose. β-Amylase: pH 4.0-5.0. < Cleaves two units. γ-Amylase: pH 3.0. < Cleaves one unit.
Cellulase, fungal:
Alkaline cellulase: pH 7.2-8.5. Neutral cellulase: pH 6.0-8.0. Hybrid cellulase: pH 4.5-7.0. Acid cellulase: pH 4.5-5.0.
Dry them out, fully, then hydrate say 10g dry with high pH calcium water, and test for an end pH of 7.0-7.2. Do the same for your wood, since it's oyster, which can produce a range of cellulase enzymes.
Write down the amount of CaCO3 you need and how much water to add.
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00Burnout
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Cakewonder]
#24847617 - 12/15/17 11:13 AM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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00Burnout said: I'm holding off on experimentation until I have a successful grow using tried and true methods. I haven't even properly pasteurized a sub yet so I need to make sure I'm good in that department. I could do them side by side though I suppose.
I still have a little more research to do, some material sourcing, and figuring out where exactly to keep my buckets.
Thanks for your condolences, I will be fine, it happens. It's just a painful reminder of how fragile life is, how easily it can be snuffed out at any moment and how much we take it for granted.
When I start experimenting with oysters I'll keep you all informed.
good luck dude
Also try a PF TEK run:)
I would, but that's a lot of work for one dinner lol
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Ferather
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: 00Burnout]
#24847631 - 12/15/17 11:18 AM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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lol.
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madhatter2
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Ferather]
#24848240 - 12/15/17 04:04 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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I just punched a hole for GE and SFD. No idea how large this diameter is, but does this look right for a pint jar lid? Using these jars for rye prep spawn.
Edited by madhatter2 (12/15/17 04:16 PM)
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stareatclouds
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: madhatter2]
#24848357 - 12/15/17 05:07 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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That looks a little bigger than mine, but it should be fine. I'd go smaller if you can, but I don't think that's so big your grains will dry out.
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Leftfield420
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Leftfield420]
#24848378 - 12/15/17 05:22 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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It only has a half inch resistance. If it were a standard filter you could probably make it work with added load but since that's a fan/filter unit I don't know if .5" will cut it
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Leftfield420
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: natedawgnow]
#24848384 - 12/15/17 05:26 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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we'll see....if not I'll find something else...not trippin if it don't work
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