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Ferather
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: bodhisatta]
#24845759 - 12/14/17 01:43 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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bodhisatta said: Ignition source+fuel+oxidizing agent=fire

Fire: Fuel + oxygen = release of energy.
Mycelium: Substrate + enzymes, + oxygen = energy.
Humans: The same as mycelium.
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Germs
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Ferather] 1
#24845801 - 12/14/17 02:02 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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I wish I could be cloned. I would send my fruits to work for me
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Ferather
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Germs]
#24845806 - 12/14/17 02:04 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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It's illegal.
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00Burnout
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Ferather]
#24845964 - 12/14/17 03:06 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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Might be ordering an oyster culture soon. I've decided I'm going to do buckets, I just gotta figure out how to keep my RH up without turning my house into a rainforest. Gotta figure out how to keep my cats from fucking with them too, I can picture them swatting at clusters like my christmas ornaments.
A GH or martha is probably not feasible, I have more furniture to move in that will probably take up the small area I could set it up in. Any suggestions?
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van hatton
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: 00Burnout]
#24846007 - 12/14/17 03:25 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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Syringe aspirated from "sterile ship thing" of lc uninnoculated and unchanged since pc.(Visually)
Waited 8 days of it chilling in a room 71-73°f. Squirted a good line onto a petri about 26 hours ago. No visible changes yet to the dish or small amount of liquid that remains (10x magnification) I feel like if bacteria (which was my biggest fear) would of been in the lc that petri would be fucked now.
This is cool. Need to do this with an actual colonized lc now.
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Fun part is figuring out what works best for you
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Ferather
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: 00Burnout]
#24846013 - 12/14/17 03:28 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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King oysters are pretty ideal, they are legal, easy to get, and close enough in settings. Most of the experience will transfer to other cold loving lignicolous types.
Agrocybe aegerita looks a bit like cubensis, fruits at: 16-22 °C.
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00Burnout
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Ferather] 1
#24846091 - 12/14/17 04:06 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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Oh I was meaning as far as keepin rh up and cats away with several buckets lol.
I'm going to do golden oysters, as many buckets as I can get away with. Pasteurization will be another slight issue, but there's equipment at my day job that I can use for that. Once I get a bigger place I'll build my own pasteurizer from a 55gal drum.
I know a few restaurants and lots of people that will buy the shit out of some oysters, so I'm looking to have a small income from this hobby. Nothing substantial, just enough to pay for supplies and give me a bit extra to have fun with. Hopefully enough to pay for my cannabis habit lol
I was thinking maybe some 3M plastic drapped over the buckets with slits to allow fae and misting as well as keep my cats out. Plus it would help trap spores in the event I can't get to them before they sporulate, I've read that oyster spores aren't very good for you at higher levels.
I'm not looking for something to conceal cube grows, if I was I'd definitely do some agrocybe aegerita. I plan on doing them eventually, maybe if I feel comfortable with being dishonest with my woman I'll sneak a tub of cubes in, but I'd rather hold onto the hope of her becoming comfortable with growing a felony again. I haven't had a relationship go this good ever and I'll be damned if something stupid like growing drugs (even if they're not drugs to me) ruins it, she's ok with me doing truffles for now which I can live with, even if they make me way more nauseous.
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Ferather
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: 00Burnout]
#24846101 - 12/14/17 04:11 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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That sounds like you have a plan, and a perfect work-around for your unfortunate situation.
Nice going. Good luck to you!
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00Burnout
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Ferather]
#24846138 - 12/14/17 04:27 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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Thanks! I'll let you know how things go once it's underway. Still debating on buying a culture or waiting till my purple mystic tubs fruit, taking some prints and trading. I know vendor cultures are tested to be clean, there's also a mushroom farm near me that sells plugs (but I've been told their oysters are pretty bland, and I don't see them letting go of a culture they want to keep) but I really like the idea of keeping things in the community.
There are several other things I'm wanting to trade for so prints are a must, mainly ethnobotanical seeds and cuttings (if I'm lucky). Sadly the main ethnos I want aren't allowed for trade (salvia and coca) but I'll save the trade talk for the marketplace.
-------------------- Peace, pot and microdot! No amount of progress has ever been made in the way of man without challenging the things we think we understand.-00Burnout Ghetto Greenhouse Trade List https://psychedelia.space
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Ferather
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: 00Burnout]
#24846155 - 12/14/17 04:32 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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Plugs are pretty cheap for me, £3, plus with a sharp thin blade you can get myc on wood slices. Or just scrape some myc off, and put onto agar, which ever works best for you.
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Ferather
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Ferather]
#24846189 - 12/14/17 04:48 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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I just remembered I have Agrocybe aegerita fruits in the freezer, I might try an agar grow.
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Germs
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Ferather]
#24846245 - 12/14/17 05:19 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ferather said: I just remembered I have Agrocybe aegerita fruits in the freezer, I might try an agar grow.
In that link you posted I read that they are attractive to flies, have you found that to be true? Interesting mushroom
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00Burnout
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Ferather]
#24846266 - 12/14/17 05:33 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'm sure I could get plugs from that farm cheap but it's probably an exhausted culture. My boss inoculated a stump 2 years ago and still hasn't seen a single fruit, I'm sure there are other factors at play but I'd rather start with a healthy lc.
On a side note, and I think this will hit TBC harder than other members, but I just found out that the cat my family has had for 10, almost 11 years (Belle) died today. She was the last tie of my cat my cat (Cricket). He only lived 7 years due to what I suspect was a poisoning, and he literally mothered Belle (it was kinda weird to be honest). He was my friend when I had none (I was very unpopular throughout middle school because my attention was focused on learning self sufficient living rather than pop cult, I graduated in '12). I haven't had a pet death affect me this much in 6 years...fuck you feelings and the horse you rode in on...Belle died around the same time of year as Cricket...fuck
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Germs
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: 00Burnout]
#24846284 - 12/14/17 05:43 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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00Burnout said: I'm sure I could get plugs from that farm cheap but it's probably an exhausted culture. My boss inoculated a stump 2 years ago and still hasn't seen a single fruit, I'm sure there are other factors at play but I'd rather start with a healthy lc.
On a side note, and I think this will hit TBC harder than other members, but I just found out that the cat my family has had for 10, almost 11 years (Belle) died today. She was the last tie of my cat my cat (Cricket). He only lived 7 years due to what I suspect was a poisoning, and he literally mothered Belle (it was kinda weird to be honest). He was my friend when I had none (I was very unpopular throughout middle school because my attention was focused on learning self sufficient living rather than pop cult, I graduated in '12). I haven't had a pet death affect me this much in 6 years...fuck you feelings and the horse you rode in on...Belle died around the same time of year as Cricket...fuck
Losing a pet is like losing a family member. Know that they passed being loved and missed like many others do not. Too many people keep animals without giving a shit about them.
‘12 here too good to know I’m not the only young dude around
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: 00Burnout]
#24846292 - 12/14/17 05:47 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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8 BRF jars at 98-100%, gonna be a hard next week waiting for em to consolidate before grating and spawning to coir in a mono (20isqt). 
Plan is to take the heart of the best first flush fruit to agar and then do a few master WBS jars, not expecting much from this since it's had a... difficult and long journey from spore to now.
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00Burnout said: On a side note, and I think this will hit TBC harder than other members, but I just found out that the cat my family has had for 10, almost 11 years (Belle) died today. She was the last tie of my cat my cat (Cricket). He only lived 7 years due to what I suspect was a poisoning, and he literally mothered Belle (it was kinda weird to be honest). He was my friend when I had none (I was very unpopular throughout middle school because my attention was focused on learning self sufficient living rather than pop cult, I graduated in '12). I haven't had a pet death affect me this much in 6 years...fuck you feelings and the horse you rode in on...Belle died around the same time of year as Cricket...fuck
Condolences, losing such a good friend is always hard. <3
Edited by Thufir_Hawat (12/14/17 05:49 PM)
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stareatclouds
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Thufir_Hawat]
#24846350 - 12/14/17 06:17 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'm sorry to hear about that, Burn. That's really crappy. I had our cat die on my birthday when I was about 12 and it crushed me. You always forget they won't be around forever. Hoping you feel better, dude.
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TheBlackCat
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So I have these escondido jars I've been staring at wondering if I should spawn them. They look clean and I don't see any metabolites but they took close to a month to colonize. They were from some spore syringes I had sitting around. I'm thinking maybe slightly bacterial due to the delay. But I'm not sure. My temps stay around 70.
Now lets say if it is a little bacterial is it still worth spawning? I have just enough for a shoebox. I still have a week or two before my new jars are ready. What is the likelihood of them still producing shrooms if they are just a little bacterial. Which who knows They might not be since I don't see metabolites. I guess I'll have to smell them later.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Thufir_Hawat]
#24846604 - 12/14/17 08:51 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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00Burnout said: On a side note, and I think this will hit TBC harder than other members, but I just found out that the cat my family has had for 10, almost 11 years (Belle) died today. She was the last tie of my cat my cat (Cricket). He only lived 7 years due to what I suspect was a poisoning, and he literally mothered Belle (it was kinda weird to be honest). He was my friend when I had none (I was very unpopular throughout middle school because my attention was focused on learning self sufficient living rather than pop cult, I graduated in '12). I haven't had a pet death affect me this much in 6 years...fuck you feelings and the horse you rode in on...Belle died around the same time of year as Cricket...fuck
Condolences, losing such a good friend is always hard. <3
Oh no. Kitty. Sorry about your loss hugs. I don't know what I'd do without my kitty either. Hugs. She's basically my therapy animal. Not like an animal someone buys and gets a certificate for so they can take them on the airplane or something. But a real life therapy pet and and animal hero and has been my best friend for the past 9 years. Sometimes I wonder what I would do without her especially when I get depressed or injure myself and can't be around my friends she's always by my side. Maybe someday when you feel better you can meet a new furrever friend.
Edited by TheBlackCat (12/14/17 08:53 PM)
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Germs
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: TheBlackCat]
#24846627 - 12/14/17 09:02 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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TheBlackCat said: So I have these escondido jars I've been staring at wondering if I should spawn them. They look clean and I don't see any metabolites but they took close to a month to colonize. They were from some spore syringes I had sitting around. I'm thinking maybe slightly bacterial due to the delay. But I'm not sure. My temps stay around 70.
Now lets say if it is a little bacterial is it still worth spawning? I have just enough for a shoebox. I still have a week or two before my new jars are ready. What is the likelihood of them still producing shrooms if they are just a little bacterial. Which who knows They might not be since I don't see metabolites. I guess I'll have to smell them later.
The likelihood is 46%. Are you willing to risk it?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Germs]
#24846633 - 12/14/17 09:06 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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Germs said:
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TheBlackCat said: So I have these escondido jars I've been staring at wondering if I should spawn them. They look clean and I don't see any metabolites but they took close to a month to colonize. They were from some spore syringes I had sitting around. I'm thinking maybe slightly bacterial due to the delay. But I'm not sure. My temps stay around 70.
Now lets say if it is a little bacterial is it still worth spawning? I have just enough for a shoebox. I still have a week or two before my new jars are ready. What is the likelihood of them still producing shrooms if they are just a little bacterial. Which who knows They might not be since I don't see metabolites. I guess I'll have to smell them later.
The likelihood is 46%. Are you willing to risk it?
I dunno. I have nothing else to do. If it smells ok does that make it more worth it?
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