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TheMadHatter420
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Snazz]
#24816071 - 11/30/17 06:40 AM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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Why would you not extract from fruits? Extracting from mycelium will probably bring nasty's, metabolites, with it as well as the fact that the mycelium will not have shit for actives compared to the fruits.
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mushroom_therapy
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It was just a question of if there was a way. I think it would be fun to test out one colonized grain jar and see what happens.
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the actives are soluble mostly in water, and not too much in booze. if anything boil colonized jars in water and reduce that down to a shot and drink it.
but you would need like 20 quarts for a single dose. myc has actives but you would need a shit load to trip out. just grow a shit load of shrooms. i literally have UNLIMITED doses. i could eat a few pounds right now if i desired. why extract anything from the myc?? i need the precious myc to produce more MUSHROOMS!!
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mushroom_therapy
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy]
#24816298 - 11/30/17 08:30 AM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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I read a tek where a guy was using cakes and getting around 5 grams of crystals after extraction. He said not only took a couple hundred miligrams per dose
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bodhisatta 
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mushroom_therapy said: I read a tek where a guy was using cakes and getting around 5 grams of crystals after extraction. He said not only took a couple hundred miligrams per dose
Cant believe everything you read on the internet
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mushroom_therapy
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: bodhisatta]
#24816308 - 11/30/17 08:36 AM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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Well a bottle of everclear is cheap enough....gonna give it a shot and I'll let you guys know what happened. Gonna try it with both dried shrooms and a jar.... 10 grams dried?
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00Burnout
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If you were going to do an extraction from the myc, it would be best done with spent cakes. 1) I've read that mycelium doesn't contain very much actives until it's been fruiting, not that it contains much anyway 2) like mushboy said, the amount is negligible, so why waste something that will fruit and give you way more enjoyment?
Personally I wouldn't bother trying to extract from anything other than fruits, it's gonna be a nasty mess otherwise. If I was going to do an alcohol extraction I'd invest in a soxhlet extractor.
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mushboy
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mushroom_therapy said: Well a bottle of everclear is cheap enough....gonna give it a shot and I'll let you guys know what happened. Gonna try it with both dried shrooms and a jar.... 10 grams dried?
no dude your missing it. actives dissolve in WATER. using booze isnt as efficient. if the goal is extracting actives then use something that will ...extract the actives. hundreds of people have done that lame crystal from the gods shit before.
like me when i was 20. its a joke. dont waste your fungus. if anything, boil the 10g down to like half a shot and freeze.
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bodhisatta 
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy]
#24816341 - 11/30/17 08:51 AM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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The mycelium extraction and crystals of the gods are both old BS.
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Snazz
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: bodhisatta]
#24816382 - 11/30/17 09:14 AM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yep. Problem is keeping the indoles stable after extraction. Locked inside chitin works well. Stick with nature
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Munchauzen


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: bodhisatta]
#24816385 - 11/30/17 09:17 AM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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bodhisatta said: The mycelium extraction and crystals of the gods are both old BS.

don't waste your fruits on crystals. they are garbage. there are some half decent extracts I've seen done here, but most involve not fully evaporating all the alcohol. so its basically a really thick goopy tincture.
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Snazz
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Munchauzen]
#24816391 - 11/30/17 09:22 AM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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Sublingual tincture might be an experiment I'd spend some time on.
Dun have a soxhlet anymore. Negative pressure distilling equipment is highly regulated too
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00Burnout
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Snazz]
#24816431 - 11/30/17 09:45 AM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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I thought about getting a soxhlet to experiment with extractions and tinctures. I read somewhere on here that someone successfully got a crystalline precipitate using one, could be bullshit. I just don't feel comfortable ordering legit lab equipment like that, disposable petris are one thing.
I'll just stick to my good ole tea, it does a good enough job by itself, sometimes too good of a job.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: 00Burnout]
#24816447 - 11/30/17 09:55 AM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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You can jury-rig one with a pot, colander,ice and some seals. Kinda depends on the solvent.
Works ok for cannabis
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00Burnout
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Snazz]
#24816488 - 11/30/17 10:17 AM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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If I was still growin my own herb I'd throw one together, but I live in town, in a state that hasn't legalized so I never have enough to be worth fucking with.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Snazz]
#24816497 - 11/30/17 10:25 AM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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Boil 100g dry powdered fruits for 10 min, strain with cheese cloth until there is no sediment left. Simmer to reduce it to as little as possible and pour (or smear) the rest over a large pan to dry off completely. See what you can scrape off? I haven't tried this myself but when I have 100g dry you can bet I'm gonna experiment with all sorts of tinctures.
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Mateja



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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Mateja]
#24816503 - 11/30/17 10:28 AM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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What would be left on that pan after all water has evaporated? It has to be something right? Does anyone think this could work? (Sry guys I can't edit posts from my phone sometimes)
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mushroom_therapy
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Mateja]
#24816538 - 11/30/17 10:47 AM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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Fuck, dissapointed to Hear that crystal of the gods is bs. It sounds amazing. My concern about the tincture is that it sounds much more difficult to dose with:
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Mateja



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mushroom_therapy said: Fuck, dissapointed to Hear that crystal of the gods is bs. It sounds amazing. My concern about the tincture is that it sounds much more difficult to dose with:
How difficult could it be? For example boil 100g dry fruits and reduce to 100ml. Fill five 20cc syringes and have fun
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TaderHoagie
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Mateja]
#24816712 - 11/30/17 12:14 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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Crystal of the Gods is a baddass name for something that seems unnecessary. The fruits are the crystals.
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