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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: hamloaf]
    #24773532 - 11/10/17 11:41 AM (6 years, 2 months ago)

No I agree 100%. I definitely want to learn an asian language just because of how different it is from latin based
languages. Really makes your brain work in a different fashion.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: natedawgnow]
    #24773552 - 11/10/17 11:46 AM (6 years, 2 months ago)

Ok cool I think I will try it open air thanks man


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: natedawgnow]
    #24773871 - 11/10/17 02:09 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

Im learning Mandarin an its a bit funny instead of "that is a bad dog" its just "bad dog"


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Kyshroomer19xx]
    #24773873 - 11/10/17 02:09 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

Oh I forgot to mention wood ash (high pH) is almost entirely composed of elemental "oxides".
Guess what happens if you add it to a substrate or with your misting water.

Also, the CaO converts to CaCO3, eventually, hence the higher pH.

See more of my wood ash breakdown here, enjoy!


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Ferather] * 1
    #24773889 - 11/10/17 02:16 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

From what ive gathered seems like a lot of the antlers being potent came from America and growers who couldn't get it right. And grow lots of antlers and need to market them.
Like paul stamets lol.
His culture of reishi from FP are known to be shit performance and the wrong species(not lucidium like advertised) according to dna analysis. Mr cloudy could tell you more about that.

The journals mostly have been reported to be conks with the most beneficial compounds. Which could also just be misleading info out of the asian and Benelux countries. But somehow i trust them more than anything FP and paul say.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Kyshroomer19xx]
    #24773891 - 11/10/17 02:16 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

I wonder if Mrcloudy could shed light on this for us? I'm going to look into it some more but until then I may just pop the top off of the tub and see what happens in open air. I may just pull the trigger and get a grow tent set up in there in the next few days or so


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Steevo]
    #24773919 - 11/10/17 02:30 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

Talk to Quadman, Gr0wer or drake89 about Reishi, they dwell in the Gourmet section.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: bodhisatta]
    #24773933 - 11/10/17 02:35 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

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bodhisatta said:
From what ive gathered seems like a lot of the antlers being potent came from America and growers who couldn't get it right. And grow lots of antlers and need to market them.
Like paul stamets lol.
His culture of reishi from FP are known to be shit performance and the wrong species(not lucidium like advertised) according to dna analysis. Mr cloudy could tell you more about that.

The journals mostly have been reported to be conks with the most beneficial compounds. Which could also just be misleading info out of the asian and Benelux countries. But somehow i trust them more than anything FP and paul say.




I learned to be better and take information from multiple "current" sources. I don't think there is a book that is 100%.
The only book that can work that way is a digital book, that can be updated, rather than re-printed.

I prefer the online method, going on forums and reading current data.

A Shroomery eBook sounds nice around about now!


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Ferather]
    #24773990 - 11/10/17 03:04 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

My current cubensis sugar peg test has focused on producing a radial, rather than just push out.
Previous sugar free tests did this when a certain amount of resources where gathered.

I almost fully conclude trace sugars are required for primary stages.
The cubensis will happily grow on "enriched" cellulose.

It's almost like making an external "seed".

http://biology-igcse.weebly.com/role-in-germinating-seeds.html


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Ferather]
    #24774036 - 11/10/17 03:31 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

Hey Ferather whats up!


I've been thinking about something for a while but have not started to experiment yet (need dirty spores first)
but I was mainly wondering what is the nature of the bacteria that is on the spores.

Is the bacteria dormant or active? Is there presence of endospores also?
I wan't to find out if there is an agent that can be introduced to a water

based spore solution, that kills the bacteria but does not harm the spores.
So one can turn a dirty spore print into a clean spore syringe.

Is this inside the realm of possibilities?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Mateja]
    #24774107 - 11/10/17 04:11 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

How many days should it take for a jar to recover ideally in 70 F as to not suspect contaminants?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Mateja] * 1
    #24774119 - 11/10/17 04:16 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Mateah said:
Hey Ferather whats up!


I've been thinking about something for a while but have not started to experiment yet (need dirty spores first)
but I was mainly wondering what is the nature of the bacteria that is on the spores.

Is the bacteria dormant or active? Is there presence of endospores also?
I wan't to find out if there is an agent that can be introduced to a water

based spore solution, that kills the bacteria but does not harm the spores.
So one can turn a dirty spore print into a clean spore syringe.

Is this inside the realm of possibilities?




You will need to talk to someone who does lab work to understand the bacteria better.
I've not worked with spores in the way you mention, only as an end user.


My tips:

Try a carbon source the bacteria cannot use, but the mycelium can.
Using plant extractive agar (plant defenses), may also help.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Ferather]
    #24774130 - 11/10/17 04:23 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Ferather said:
Quote:

Mateah said:
Hey Ferather whats up!


I've been thinking about something for a while but have not started to experiment yet (need dirty spores first)
but I was mainly wondering what is the nature of the bacteria that is on the spores.

Is the bacteria dormant or active? Is there presence of endospores also?
I wan't to find out if there is an agent that can be introduced to a water

based spore solution, that kills the bacteria but does not harm the spores.
So one can turn a dirty spore print into a clean spore syringe.

Is this inside the realm of possibilities?




You will need to talk to someone who does lab work to understand the bacteria better.
I've not worked with spores in the way you mention, only as an end user.


My tips:

Try a carbon source the bacteria cannot use, but the mycelium can.
Using plant extractive agar (plant defenses), may also help.





My main idea was to create clean spore syringes that can be safely used as is. Where no live
bacteria would be introduced. Or that the bacteria is damaged to the extent that it can not reproduce.

I hear you! I will have to dive in this alone for a while first somehow. The hardest part is deciding where to begin the search :smile:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Mateja]
    #24774133 - 11/10/17 04:25 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

Hopefully someone with better bacteria knowledge can help you, good luck though, sounds like a good idea.

:thumbup:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: TheBlackCat]
    #24774196 - 11/10/17 05:08 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

TheBlackCat said:
How many days should it take for a jar to recover ideally in 70 F as to not suspect contaminants?




if you can flip it upside down after 24 and the grains are NOT loose.. you got good spawn.

if some grains fall loose.. flip it back over. wait 48hrs but take note of the jar.
if the grains are just completely loose then its no good:sad:


lots of ifs. but only one truth :yoda:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy]
    #24774206 - 11/10/17 05:13 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

mushboy said:
Quote:

TheBlackCat said:
How many days should it take for a jar to recover ideally in 70 F as to not suspect contaminants?




if you can flip it upside down after 24 and the grains are NOT loose.. you got good spawn.

if some grains fall loose.. flip it back over. wait 48hrs but take note of the jar.
if the grains are just completely loose then its no good:sad:


lots of ifs. but only one truth :yoda:





Hm. interesting. Didn't know this. Seems logical. Thanks!


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Mateja]
    #24774209 - 11/10/17 05:15 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

its just an old wifes style rule of thumb i do. its not science. basically if your grains are loose after 24hrs its meh.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: TheBlackCat]
    #24774266 - 11/10/17 05:54 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

TheBlackCat said:
How many days should it take for a jar to recover ideally in 70 F as to not suspect contaminants?




Should be completely recovered in 48-72 hrs...


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Leftfield420]
    #24774278 - 11/10/17 05:56 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

Psst.... love you guys...


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy]
    #24774280 - 11/10/17 05:56 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

mushboy said:
Quote:

TheBlackCat said:
How many days should it take for a jar to recover ideally in 70 F as to not suspect contaminants?




if you can flip it upside down after 24 and the grains are NOT loose.. you got good spawn.

if some grains fall loose.. flip it back over. wait 48hrs but take note of the jar.
if the grains are just completely loose then its no good:sad:


lots of ifs. but only one truth :yoda:


...

I do the same thing to my jars...


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