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Ferather
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: LemurLemur]
#24773265 - 11/10/17 09:40 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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bodhisatta 
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Ferather]
#24773272 - 11/10/17 09:43 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Conks are reported to be far more medicinally active as well. Apparently the spores quite potent as well.
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Ferather
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: bodhisatta]
#24773284 - 11/10/17 09:50 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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So Reishi react the same as oysters then, they stretch to high O2 then produce bigger caps when O2 is met (in this case conks). That makes me wonder if O2 is absorbed-used mostly in the cap, or if oxidization is part of the cap setup.
Does low O2 cause a lower spore load?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Ferather]
#24773289 - 11/10/17 09:52 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Or its just a trophic response
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Ferather
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: bodhisatta]
#24773300 - 11/10/17 09:58 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Either way O2 is used in both colonization stages and fruiting stages. Indeed it oxidizes (decays), converts and catalyzes with O2.
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TheMadHatter420
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Ferather]
#24773312 - 11/10/17 10:02 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hey so I just heated up some agar to melt it and am about to pour a 10 stack in front of a flow hood. So it doesn't solidify on me what temp should I start the pour at so I have enough time to get all 10 poured?
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TheMadHatter420 said: Hey so I just heated up some agar to melt it and am about to pour a 10 stack in front of a flow hood. So it doesn't solidify on me what temp should I start the pour at so I have enough time to get all 10 poured?
I'm assuming you have a thermometer. Bod has a good agar tek on what temp to pour at to avoid condensation but also not so cool that it turns to a solid: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21922023
I've poured 20 plates where agar bottle was at 120F and haven't had issues. Lately I don't even bother monitoring the temp I just wait until the media bottle I use is cool enough to hold with my bare hand. I have never had an issue of it solidifying on me before I'm done pouring.
Even if you work really slow it shouldn't be an issue.
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TheMadHatter420
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Ok thanks, was just looking for a quick reference point. I just stuck it in a tub of 130f water with a thermometer a couple min ago, I will go check it and get setup.
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van hatton
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Do you guys ever get disorganized growth the first few days after a transfer?
I took transfers from a clone plate with a pin on it and the growth on that plate is nice rizo. But the transfers don't have the organization after 4 days.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: van hatton]
#24773386 - 11/10/17 10:35 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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what do you mean by disorganized/organized?
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van hatton
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy]
#24773393 - 11/10/17 10:39 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Uniform.
I have a 10x loupe so I can see different spots are further along then others. A picture is pointless it won't show up I tried
I'm gunna let them sit a few more days. Doesn't seem to be moving nearly as fast as the plate I took transfers from. 4 days and it's still has transparent growth.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: van hatton]
#24773419 - 11/10/17 10:56 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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oh shit i got ya.. haha ..no clue.
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van hatton
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy]
#24773434 - 11/10/17 11:03 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Idk we'll see. I feel like it should of grown more maybe a quarter inch if that in 4 days.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: van hatton]
#24773451 - 11/10/17 11:15 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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So out of curiosity would it be possible to use a tattoo needle for streaking? Say a 3rl with the needles blunted so as not to damage the spores? Tattoo needles work through capillary action so I don't see why it wouldn't work. Too bad the loop on the bar is too big.
I know inoculation loops are cheap, and so is nichrome wire but I've got tons of needles and rarely do any ink anymore (I wasn't all that good anyway) so I figured 1 or 2 wouldn't set me back.
If not it's cool, I'll just buy an inoculation loop next time I order something off amazon.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: bodhisatta] 1
#24773458 - 11/10/17 11:20 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: Conks are reported to be far more medicinally active as well. Apparently the spores quite potent as well.
I have heard and read conflicting reports on this. It appears that conks definitely have a higher concentration of triterpenes, which give them their classic bitter taste, but antlers may be higher in polysaccharides which are the driving force behind our immune systems.
Sucks that all the real science behind reishi is in asian language journals so we here in the western hemisphere don't have the best grasp of their effectiveness, and we are not as into holistic healing so we may never have the research capabilities they do over there.
Either way nice grow dude! I wouldn't cut the white growing tip off or you might stop them from growing. Just harvest and make tincture or let them go in open air for a bit to see if they'll conk!
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: natedawgnow]
#24773476 - 11/10/17 11:28 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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I understand the same things as you as far as conks vs antlers. If you truly want to figure it out learn the language that said Asian journals are written in or find a buddy who can. I am learning Hebrew.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: hamloaf]
#24773502 - 11/10/17 11:34 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Good point. The issues with the asian journals is that a lot of words and what not do not directly translate so when translated, they don't really make much sense. That and the scholarly articles are held at universities so they can be hard to get access too sometimes.
The best thing to do is our own research here in the states, the problem is that most companies that have the ability to do some actual testing don't want to because it falls into the realm of holistic healing.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: hamloaf]
#24773512 - 11/10/17 11:37 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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I have a 6qt shoebox that's ready to fruit and I was wanting to dub tub it but I don't have another shoebox. Can anyone give me some advice on how to fruit it my SGFC is full. This is my first go with bulk but any and all suggestions are welcome thanks guys
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: natedawgnow]
#24773521 - 11/10/17 11:39 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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natedawgnow said: Good point. The issues with the asian journals is that a lot of words and what not do not directly translate so when translated, they don't really make much sense. That and the scholarly articles are held at universities so they can be hard to get access too sometimes.
The best thing to do is our own research here in the states, the problem is that most companies that have the ability to do some actual testing don't want to because it falls into the realm of holistic healing.
Same thing with Hebrew brother. Hebrew and Asian are circular which makes it hard to understand/translate into English by our Greco/Roman linear way of thinking. It can be, and is done all the time though. Also, by learning the language you learn some native idioms that will expand your way of thinking. Best thing to do would be to learn the language to bridge the gap between what is already understood by the Asians.
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Kyshroomer19xx said: I have a 6qt shoebox that's ready to fruit and I was wanting to dub tub it but I don't have another shoebox. Can anyone give me some advice on how to fruit it my SGFC is full. This is my first go with bulk but any and all suggestions are welcome thanks guys
If you are around enough to mist a few times a day you could open air fruit it. Or you can put a plastic grocery bag over it
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