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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Ferather]
    #24765970 - 11/07/17 09:23 AM (6 years, 2 months ago)

Now when I think about it I think my black tea had vanilla flavor.
Wonder if it is the vanilla that causes the myc to stop growing.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Mateja]
    #24766018 - 11/07/17 09:43 AM (6 years, 2 months ago)

Maybe, its a variable, I use the extra cheap crap, still cubensis will need a normal recipe to work.
Since it cannot utilize the tea like lignicolous mycelium do (laccase), you need sugar.

Side-by-side, normal agar vs with added tea, and see which is cleanest.
Given that a cubensis can grow, many other things can too.

So far those with success have used ME with the tea.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Ferather]
    #24766076 - 11/07/17 10:08 AM (6 years, 2 months ago)

I don’t have ME but I don’t see why BRF wouldn’t work since it has sugars?
Also mycolorade uses a weak recipe at 1% ME and 2% Tea.

Wonder what % BRF I would use to mimic te 1% ME sugar contents.
I think you might have a clue about this Ferather?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Mateja]
    #24766104 - 11/07/17 10:18 AM (6 years, 2 months ago)

Well the last time I combined tea bags with BR water, the oyster went potty.
Brown rice is full of soluble starch, so yes, talk to Bod about BRF.

Remember the tea is an antibiotic additive in this case.
It's alternative to other materials, not foolproof.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Ferather]
    #24766268 - 11/07/17 11:33 AM (6 years, 2 months ago)

What's more efficient, doing bags with grains and substrate and fruiting in bags? Or doing bags of grains and putting that into a standard tub of substrate?

obviously the ready made bags are one less step and more direct, but if it yields substantially less then maybe it's not so worth it


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Huskies]
    #24766277 - 11/07/17 11:39 AM (6 years, 2 months ago)

1QT of spawn is still 1QT of spawn wether it’s in a bag or box, it’s entirely up to the grower how it’s done. However most people will recommend a flow hood when working with bags, it can be done in a SAB but with much more difficulty than just doing jars


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Huskies]
    #24766281 - 11/07/17 11:40 AM (6 years, 2 months ago)



Would these 2mil bags be good for grains in the PC? Says food safe.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Huskies]
    #24766290 - 11/07/17 11:43 AM (6 years, 2 months ago)

I just about managed to get images of day 4. Young mycelium, on my "Sugar peg tek".
It's growing from the peg, no doubt for the sugar, no obvious contams.

Hopefully it will be better fed by day 7-8, no issues so far.

   


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Huskies]
    #24766312 - 11/07/17 11:55 AM (6 years, 2 months ago)

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Huskies said:
What's more efficient, doing bags with grains and substrate and fruiting in bags? Or doing bags of grains and putting that into a standard tub of substrate?

obviously the ready made bags are one less step and more direct, but if it yields substantially less then maybe it's not so worth it




With either method the bags need to be sterilized. The pre-mixed bags will be a less efficient use of PC time.

Yields by weight (biological efficiency) shouldn't be too different.
Yield per PC cycle, hr of labor, sq ft. of grow space, etc. could be drastically different depending on how YOU grow.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Ferather] * 1
    #24766313 - 11/07/17 11:55 AM (6 years, 2 months ago)

I used a pda agar recipe combined with black tea and a drop or two of honey ...I got growth but it took a lot longer than normal....


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Leftfield420]
    #24766335 - 11/07/17 12:08 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

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I used a pda agar recipe combined with black tea and a drop or two of honey ...I got growth but it took a lot longer than normal....




Sounds like you hit the target sugar level, if it's slower than normal, inhibitory action is taking place.

Can you list the amounts such as water, amount of tea, and procedure?

Thanks.

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Ferather]
    #24766524 - 11/07/17 01:29 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

The cards I am putting in with my spore prints. I am READY for the marketplace!



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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Ferather]
    #24766838 - 11/07/17 03:33 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

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Quote:

Leftfield420 said:
I used a pda agar recipe combined with black tea and a drop or two of honey ...I got growth but it took a lot longer than normal....




Sounds like you hit the target sugar level, if it's slower than normal, inhibitory action is taking place.

Can you list the amounts such as water, amount of tea, and procedure?

Thanks.

:takingnotes:





1/2 cup water
1.5 grams potato flakes
2-4 black tea bags
2 grams agar powder
A couple small drops of honey


1.Heat water on medium low and steep black tea bags in your pan until desired color...
2.Remove tea bags and add potato flakes,wwhn the potato flakes are  almost disolved add agar powder and honey...stir well and pour into pasty plates


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Leftfield420]
    #24766852 - 11/07/17 03:37 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

Why tea? what does tea bring to the party?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: icetech]
    #24766868 - 11/07/17 03:43 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

Antibacterial properties, purportedly


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Leftfield420]
    #24766872 - 11/07/17 03:44 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Leftfield420 said:
1/2 cup water
1.5 grams potato flakes
2-4 black tea bags
2 grams agar powder
A couple small drops of honey


1.Heat water on medium low and steep black tea bags in your pan until desired color...
2.Remove tea bags and add potato flakes,wwhn the potato flakes are  almost disolved add agar powder and honey...stir well and pour into pasty plates




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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Germs]
    #24766888 - 11/07/17 03:50 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

ahh thanks germ!


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: FishLevelMidnight]
    #24766889 - 11/07/17 03:50 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

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The cards I am putting in with my spore prints. I am READY for the marketplace!







Nice insert


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: icetech]
    #24766912 - 11/07/17 03:58 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

Anti bacterial properties....but I don't fuck with it any more...kept having problems with mold piggy backing my cultures...so I worked on my sterile technique


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Leftfield420] * 1
    #24766916 - 11/07/17 03:59 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

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..so I worked on my sterile technique




that solves like every problem.:yuno:


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