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ManifoldPrime
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Huskies]
#24756449 - 11/03/17 08:31 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Follow up on this: does any one here wash their fruits before dehydrating? I just get all the sub off them usually
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Mateja



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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Huskies]
#24756486 - 11/03/17 09:00 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Huskies said: Sporeplosion: is it worth trying to wipe down the black caps with a damp cloth or should I just leave it as is
I dont see sporeplosion anywhere in that pic 
If there was one, I would just rinse the fruits with water after harvest. All the spores will come off easily with just a swipe with your finger when rinsing.
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Steevo
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Mateja]
#24756508 - 11/03/17 09:12 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Mateah- Not that pic, he's talking about another tub
Huskies- I've never gone to the trouble of wiping them off but you can if you want. I've heard of ppl misting heavily and wiping them off after. Too much trouble imo.
ManifoldPrime- I don't wash them and I haven't heard anyone mention that they do either. Maybe the guys that grow on shit do. I've done it with wild harvested and really dirty grocery store booms but never my own
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Huskies
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Mateja]
#24756510 - 11/03/17 09:12 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Oh that is just a pretty picture of IMo my most photogenic tubs, they look like soft lil fairy shrooms.
But yeah, my PESH tub was pure black slimy caps. They are drying though, I got fed up after washing a 1/4 of them
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icetech



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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Huskies]
#24756526 - 11/03/17 09:23 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Why were they slimy? too much spraying?
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Huskies
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: icetech]
#24756549 - 11/03/17 09:40 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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No, just a thick layer of spores on the caps, they have curved inwards a bit, creating lil cups
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icetech



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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Huskies]
#24756552 - 11/03/17 09:45 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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ahh ok...
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hamloaf
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Germs] 1
#24756570 - 11/03/17 09:54 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Germs said: Coffee and cubes plus a noob equals trich. We’ve all seen that play out, even recently
I agree with you, germs. It's best for the mycelium to be able to source their nutrition from varying sources, but as far as supplements, and additives go I think it's best for the cultivator to get the basic methods down first, then divulge in the realm of adds, and supps.
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mushboy
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: hamloaf]
#24756575 - 11/03/17 09:58 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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hamloaf said: get the basic methods down first
but once you get the basics down..
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then divulge in the realm of adds, and supps.
becomes kind of fantasy land. focus on the basics and they surpass goofy shit like gypsum and coffee any day.
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hamloaf
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy]
#24756594 - 11/03/17 10:07 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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You sound very inexperienced if you're calling gypsum "goofy" dude. 
Gypsum is simple to use, beneficial in all stages of growth, and doesn't cause contamination.
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icetech



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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: hamloaf]
#24756599 - 11/03/17 10:10 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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oh come on! i just threw my gypsum away after reading that.. now i gotta go get it back
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hamloaf
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: icetech]
#24756621 - 11/03/17 10:21 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yea, becareful of who and what you listen to around here, and most importantly do your own research.
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Ferather
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: icetech]
#24756625 - 11/03/17 10:23 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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I see two types of recipes, both have pro and cons.
A: 10/90 or 25/75 dry spawn to enriched, cold substrate. B: 50/50 or 60/40 dry spawn to normal, cold substrate.
A: Contains more cellulose (and if wood lignin-other), can be made to be carbon controlled (no starch-sugar). If starch or sugar is added, the media is no longer open air safe, aseptic working is required.
B: I'ts far less likely to contaminate when "clean" spawn is used, as no starch-sugar is added.
As mentioned scenario A can be made to be carbon controlled to just cellulose + spawn. Adding coffee to scenario B will produce scenario A, as it contains starch-sugar.
Adding gypsum (for the better part), will not produce scenario A.
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bodhisatta 
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: hamloaf]
#24756629 - 11/03/17 10:24 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Gypsum is goofy if you don't need to add it but spend money on it and it doesn't add as much to your grow as it costs. Do some with some without. If you see no difference ask yourself why you are doing it.
No one said its not beneficial. But it's super far from necessary. If you have it use it. If you don't there's no reason to go get some or wait until you have it.
People are very dogmatic about gypsum because RR said. He also never posted any proof that he saw a difference. He just said he did.
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icetech



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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: bodhisatta]
#24756634 - 11/03/17 10:26 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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only reason i got it was i was told it will help keep my wbs from sticking together.. my current jars i had to beat the shit out of to break up most of the grains to shake em..
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bodhisatta 
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: icetech]
#24756636 - 11/03/17 10:27 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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It can help but prep will help more. Grain prep correctly should shake easily gypsum or not
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icetech



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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: bodhisatta]
#24756643 - 11/03/17 10:30 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah, i think it was still a little too wet.. i used a normal colander, i have a decent strainer now. live and learn:) will get it down.
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hamloaf
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: bodhisatta]
#24756647 - 11/03/17 10:33 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: Gypsum is goofy if you don't need to add it but spend money on it and it doesn't add as much to your grow as it costs. Do some with some without. If you see no difference ask yourself why you are doing it.
No one said its not beneficial. But it's super far from necessary. If you have it use it. If you don't there's no reason to go get some or wait until you have it.
People are very dogmatic about gypsum because RR said. He also never posted any proof that he saw a difference. He just said he did.
I've done both with and with out over the last ten years multiple times, and I subscribe to gypsum. So many more than you it's not even funny. Seeing as how you've had very very limited experiance and are very willing to say there is no difference that you are the one being dogmatic. Cut the crap dude. Let's an isolate demonstration on your part with consecutive success. Not just one ms grow with and with out before you go and demonize gypsum.
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Ferather
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: bodhisatta]
#24756651 - 11/03/17 10:39 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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40kg of soft building sand is £2.40. Gritty compost is very good for some substrates.
You could try compost and grain, but compost contains various nutrients. I've never tried it, but it may increase the contamination risk.
Sulfur is used for certain amino acids and unit binding. Calcium is used for oxalate's and unit binding.
Use depends on the recipe and media.
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mushboy
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: hamloaf]
#24756660 - 11/03/17 10:43 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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for the record my point was, and you can apply this to almost anything,.. is that mastering and perfecting the basics will give you far better results then not and using add ons.
focus on your driving before you buy that fancy ass car. make sure you can comprehend english before you pick up 'brief history of time'.
i was agreeing with ham, and making a point of fundamentals being more important than that handfull of crush drywall.
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