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Offlinehamloaf
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: cronicr]
    #24720672 - 10/18/17 09:24 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

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Bigbadwooof said:
I wouldnt do agar without a PC... shit, I wouldnt grow mushrooms without one. It can be done.. but fuck that shit.



PF Tek fruited as cakes, crumbled & straight cased, or crumbled & spawned to pasteurized manure, or heat treated coir are great ways to grow with out a PC.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: hamloaf]
    #24720856 - 10/18/17 11:11 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

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Bigbadwooof said:
I wouldnt do agar without a PC... shit, I wouldnt grow mushrooms without one. It can be done.. but fuck that shit.



PF Tek fruited as cakes, crumbled & straight cased, or crumbled & spawned to pasteurized manure, or heat treated coir are great ways to grow with out a PC.




I didnt say it cant be done. I said I wouldnt do it. I dont go fishing without a pole, or fuck hookers without a condom either... though, it certainly can be done..


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: cronicr]
    #24721067 - 10/19/17 03:17 AM (6 years, 3 months ago)

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Yes you can steam agar np and grains if you steam 8 hours strait




Ain't nobody got time for that.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: 00Burnout]
    #24721127 - 10/19/17 04:56 AM (6 years, 3 months ago)

Does anyone know of a cheap product that I can  use as slant tubes? I find a lot of "lab test tubes" on Ebay that are promoted with the text "Wedding party" and photos are of these test tubes next to a bunch of flowers at a wedding. (I have no clue what kind of marketing these test tubes have in China) :shrug:

Anyone has a name of a brand of these tubes that are okay to use?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Mateja]
    #24721187 - 10/19/17 05:58 AM (6 years, 3 months ago)

Kimax, Kimble...Pyrex (corning)..?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Crispykoot]
    #24721329 - 10/19/17 07:55 AM (6 years, 3 months ago)

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Kimax, Kimble...Pyrex (corning)..?




Thanks Crispy! I found cheap ones on ebay made out of "high grade polypropylene" as it says in the ad. A general search on google suggests to me that all polypropylene plastics are autoclavable, but I remember reading some time ago that PP5 is the only variety that can be PC:d, is this correct?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Mateja]
    #24721371 - 10/19/17 08:34 AM (6 years, 3 months ago)

Pp5 is the plastic that [is] pc'able


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Mateja]
    #24721377 - 10/19/17 08:42 AM (6 years, 3 months ago)

PP is polypropylene, 5 is the recycling code #.
The only place I have seen "PP5" used is right here on the shroomery.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: foragedfungus]
    #24721380 - 10/19/17 08:47 AM (6 years, 3 months ago)

:lol: :whathesaid:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: van hatton]
    #24721414 - 10/19/17 09:11 AM (6 years, 3 months ago)

I use ML centrifuge tubes. They are PP5 and do fine in the PC. I got 25 shipped to me for like $4-4 off ebay. Opening is about and inch wide so easy to work in.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: van hatton]
    #24721416 - 10/19/17 09:12 AM (6 years, 3 months ago)

PPCO can be pced also...but most just use pp5


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: dextr0]
    #24721419 - 10/19/17 09:15 AM (6 years, 3 months ago)

My gyms germ'd, how many transfers should i do at min?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: LemurLemur]
    #24721449 - 10/19/17 09:32 AM (6 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: cronicr]
    #24721481 - 10/19/17 09:42 AM (6 years, 3 months ago)

I was wondering why we cook our grain. I have debated on just rinsing some grain, and putting it in the PC then noccing it up to see what happens. Is there some relationship with the moisture in the grain that the mycellium likes?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushroom_therapy]
    #24721486 - 10/19/17 09:44 AM (6 years, 3 months ago)

Yep. Same reason wet cardboard molds but dry cardboard doesn't
Or dry grains only problem is bugs. Wet grain goes nasty in a day


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: bodhisatta]
    #24721578 - 10/19/17 10:33 AM (6 years, 3 months ago)

Quick question guys.. can you PC BRF too long? i did my jars for 2 hours at 15psi.. and i had 8 that didn't grow anything at all (another issue) but when i dumped them the cakes were like super gooey not wet, but i stomped on them and had to clean my shoes for 10 minutes.. Not sure what the texture of 2.5 week old brf should be or if i messed up.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: icetech]
    #24721696 - 10/19/17 11:14 AM (6 years, 3 months ago)

Try this recipe

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eatyualive said:

A key point to this method is that the pf mix is a bit drier than regular pf mix.

Recipe for 24 Pf jars:
12 cups verm
6 cups brf
5.5 cups water

one half cup less water  is used compared to regular pf tek mix. This is intentionally done for liquid inoculations. The pf jars are stored as masters in the fridge for later use. The lower moisture content helps keep the pf cakes longer in the fridge. The idea is that when the colonized pf jar stores its a bit drier so you don't encounter moisture building up in the jar. the consistency of most of my cakes ends up crumbling into small particles that allow me to break up with a fork easily. This allows more inoculation points when forked into a grain jar.

regular 24 pf jar recipe
12 cups verm
6 cups brf
6 cups water





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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: JHOVA]
    #24722208 - 10/19/17 02:42 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

I just traded a box of doughnuts for 60lbs of winter wheat. I love the Midwest!


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Explicitdetail]
    #24722451 - 10/19/17 04:07 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

I use centrifuge tubes... order a pack of 50 off amazon for like $10-15, I think. Get like 30ml ones...


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #24723163 - 10/19/17 08:31 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

Exactly what can you do inside a SAB that you can't do in front of a FH? And exactly what can you do in front of a FH do you can't inside a SAB?


I've read something about that it's not a good idea to take clones from fruits (that are covered in contams) in front of a FH because the FH would blow the contams over the sterile areas. Long time ago I read it in the forums maybe I even misunderstood.


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