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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Germs]
    #24633833 - 09/15/17 09:56 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

I think my oyster jars might have a tiny bit of yeast. They should still be ok to spawn right. I'm pretty sure it was the culture because I only did two jars and they are the only ones that seem like they have yeast.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: TheBlackCat]
    #24633918 - 09/15/17 10:27 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

Noc your powers are always needed lmao


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Boogieman47]
    #24634032 - 09/15/17 11:23 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

While we're on the subject of wheat, I've got one that I'm not sure about. Hericium started 12 days ago. Normal or should I head back to the drawing board?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Boogieman47]
    #24634034 - 09/15/17 11:23 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

Da fuck?? Someone clearly didn't do their fact checking and mixed up edibles and hallucinogens in this article. Funnies thing I ever read. Also I just got done reading you shouldn't eat mushrooms because it can promote yeast infections. Fucking idiots.


http://www.stylecraze.com/articles/serious-side-effects-of-mushrooms-on-your-health/#gref


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While we're on the subject of wheat, I've got one that I'm not sure about. Hericium started 12 days ago. Normal or should I head back to the drawing board?






Also I'm not an expert bu that's about how m y lions mane agar dish looks. Also lions mane on plugs. I think there is some shaking ritual you need to go through with lions mane to keep it from fruiting ibn the jar. Someone else should know better.

Anyone have any good lions mane grow links for shroomery?


https://www.cultivatedmushroom.com/?product=hericium-erinaceus-lions-mane-plugs


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: TheBlackCat]
    #24634418 - 09/16/17 06:27 AM (6 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks for the response. Good to hear I'm not growing biological weapons.

I've read some of RR's and various other posts on the subject, and it certainly seems like it's a unique looker. Sounds like it comes on very light and can start to pin early. I thought I read that this particular strain wants darkness while colonizing, but not sure if that's correct.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: TheBlackCat]
    #24634427 - 09/16/17 06:38 AM (6 years, 4 months ago)

Hey, I've been wondering if there's anything I can do to encourage interesting mushrooms to grow around me. I live out in the country a bit in the middle TN area and I have plenty of land and privacy by today's standards. I've been slowly learning about this hobby over the past couple years but there's still a lot I don't know. Could I make a substrate ideal for the kinds I want to attract and leave piles of it outside? I can get cow manure I think. A variety of mushrooms already grow around here but I think they're pretty run-of-the-mill.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: ghostembodied]
    #24634453 - 09/16/17 07:03 AM (6 years, 4 months ago)

If you live in region that will naturally support fungi growth, you'll have much better luck introducing specific strains to your environment vs' introducing a growing media to attract them. What type of mushroom(s) are you trying to grow? You could use plugs, slurry or just amend a small bed/garden. Lots of options to explore, but it depends on what you're trying to grow.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Germs]
    #24634524 - 09/16/17 08:10 AM (6 years, 4 months ago)

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The hall of shame could welcome a new addition I think we could all think of.. but I'd better keep my mouth shut



Please tell me we're thinking of the same person :laugh2:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: waxbrain]
    #24634792 - 09/16/17 10:12 AM (6 years, 4 months ago)

I have 18 jars I want to inoculate, and two master jars ready to go. Should I try using one for all 18 and make more jars for the other, or should I do one master per 9? The grain jars I prepped have some room for g2g, my original plan was get them colonized super fast, but if its too wasteful maybe its not worth it.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Huskies]
    #24634891 - 09/16/17 10:39 AM (6 years, 4 months ago)

Do one master per 9 jars. Then use a few of those 18 to become your new masters. The below info is for oysters, but you'll get the basic idea. I'm not sure you can go out to G10 with cubes, maybe a TC can chime in on that. But, you can certainly go out a few generations w/o an issue. 

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Grain Masters
We culture mycelium in petri plates on agar.

Then when the mycelium is healthy and clean we transfer our mycelium to sterile Grain. These first jars of grain are called Grain Masters.

Knowing that our Grain Masters are clean we use the masters to inoculate more grain G2, G3, G4 and so on. With oysters taking this to G10 is totally possible.

The name Grain masters is misleading. It is basically the first clean jar you start with to expand more grain but the second generation is where you will know for sure that your spawn is nice and clean because this is when contaminates usually present themselves if present. So therefore the second generation could be used as a master as well and would be ideal




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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Fungus Mountain]
    #24634991 - 09/16/17 11:21 AM (6 years, 4 months ago)

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Knowing that our Grain Masters are clean


this is by far the most important part, I would suggest to stick with agar to grain until you know 100%  how to spot clean spawn. always post a picture before expanding a jar


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tryptkaloids]
    #24634994 - 09/16/17 11:22 AM (6 years, 4 months ago)

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I have 18 jars I want to inoculate, and two master jars ready to go. Should I try using one for all 18 and make more jars for the other, or should I do one master per 9? The grain jars I prepped have some room for g2g, my original plan was get them colonized super fast, but if its too wasteful maybe its not worth it.



I just did G2G for the first time the other day with some WBS lion's mane jars. I did 3 teaspoons per jar from my master. My still air box is too short, had to use s sterilized spoon. That was about 8 or 9 days ago I think. I shook at 30%, and all jars were 80 to 90% last night.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: dhype773]
    #24635028 - 09/16/17 11:39 AM (6 years, 4 months ago)

Last night I did things a bit differently. I brought my water for my WBS to a boil first, like in Fooman's tek. Loaded and let sit. Was going to take today off work and handle them in the am, but decided not to. Now they will have soaked 22hrs by the time I'm able to load into jars and PC, which I know is a normal length, but since I used boiling water, will it be a problem?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: dhype773]
    #24635080 - 09/16/17 11:56 AM (6 years, 4 months ago)

So you boiled water, poured it over the wbs, covered it and let it sit for what will be 22 or so hrs? I've only ever soaked wbs in hottest tap water for that long. I'd be interested to see how it turns out. I'm guessing its too long but that's just :2cents:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Steevo]
    #24635326 - 09/16/17 01:31 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

Someone who knows their shit please help me out with an issue/non-issue for my tub - second flush.

Pics above post, discussion below.

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/24634953#24634953

Update: new pics at bottom of thread.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tryptkaloids]
    #24635348 - 09/16/17 01:38 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

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Knowing that our Grain Masters are clean


this is by far the most important part, I would suggest to stick with agar to grain until you know 100%  how to spot clean spawn. always post a picture before expanding a jar



Yeah, my biggest issue is just prepping clean grain...agar is fairly simple to get a strong batch of mycelium, but if your grain prep is off then it's all up In the air


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Steevo]
    #24635931 - 09/16/17 05:17 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

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So you boiled water, poured it over the wbs, covered it and let it sit for what will be 22 or so hrs? I've only ever soaked wbs in hottest tap water for that long. I'd be interested to see how it turns out. I'm guessing its too long but that's just :2cents:




Here's what they look like.

Nothing busted, no bad smell at all. Should I dump them and start over our are they good?

Update:
Waited till they passed the toilette paper test, loaded and put them in the PC. They looked, smelled, and felt fine. We will see what they look like when they come out.




On a side note, this is the first time I've loaded my PC like this! 


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: dhype773]
    #24636168 - 09/16/17 07:12 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

That test is for larger grain like rye


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: dhype773]
    #24636175 - 09/16/17 07:15 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)



On a side note, this is the first time I've loaded my PC like this! 





It works.  I have been doing that.  Instead of 7, I can do 10


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: cronicr]
    #24636179 - 09/16/17 07:18 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

Well it also feel off my hand easily.

Noob, there's 8 in there. You get 10. Do you have a 23qt.?


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