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waxbrain
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: waxbrain]
#24620795 - 09/11/17 01:45 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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waxbrain said: awesome, Ill try and find some SHIPs at the cheapest price offered by maybe a shroomery vendor. anyone know off hand, need a SFD or 2.
Need to stop buying pre-sterile bags, got my PC ready to go.
Also slightly off topic anyone got a favorite portabello culture?
If anyone wants a laugh this is what I came home to after a terrible day at work and posting the above. https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/24620779#24620779
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bodhisatta 
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: waxbrain]
#24620807 - 09/11/17 01:49 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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Another person gets first hand experience as to why we are so "angry" about premade spawn.
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waxbrain
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: bodhisatta]
#24620881 - 09/11/17 02:13 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: Another person gets first hand experience as to why we are so "angry" about premade spawn.
Sure did, it wasn't this bad years ago for me at least.. have everything ready to go. I'm fucking tired of this shit.
Fixed the PC and have bought essentially everything from start to finish (agar to coir) excluding potato flakes and rye berries (getting a ton shortly). Maybe another pack of glads and quart jars.
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Munchauzen said: g2g lids? naw. you do not need an inoculation hole. you simply remove the lid and inoculate them and then replace the lid, all within a sab or in front of a hood. its a cleaner method than using self healing injection ports because there is no physical contact being made with anything. self healing injection ports are not sterile due to their direct contact with open air. so at most, their exterior can be sanitized. so you are pushing your sterilized needle through a sanitized object. which is something we really discourage. im sure you've seen what happens when people say they wipe their syringes down with alcohol after flaming them when doing pftek. this is no different. its best to keep your dispensing needle sterile until the moment of inoculation.
Man just saying opening up a jar in a SAB makes me shiver.. but I guess the only way to learn is to try(gonna pc a few this way). BTW just so everyone knows - that was a live bug in my spawn bag. There's holes in this one and the second one he sent me. We're on the third replacement so I'm done. I just want the $ back I guess.. what can I do to with 1qt spawn to 3qt sub I think?
Hope everyone's having a better day than I am. Love and hope going to those that experienced the brunt of the hurricane, I can't imagine what losing your home could feel like. I'm sitting here complaining about growing mushrooms when there's people who have nothing to come home to.
I try to be optimistic and thinking about these families is keeping me from freaking the fuck out on these people.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: waxbrain] 1
#24620938 - 09/11/17 02:34 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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Gotta start somewhere, three years from now we might be taking advice from you. Pressure cooker and optimism all ya need. And the ability to pick up skills
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: bodhisatta]
#24622145 - 09/11/17 08:58 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'm not a fan of premade spawn as much and more into the control of doing things myself. I will admit though I got real lucky my spawn vendor is super legit and autoclaves his stuff. It was really great for me as a beginner.
Speaking of which my first 64qt mono done from start to finish by me has a few primordia on it and lots of knots. I'm hoping for a good flush. Been really on top of making sure the surface conditions remain good and everything seems to be dialed in nicely.
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Munchauzen


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: waxbrain]
#24622159 - 09/11/17 09:04 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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SABs are a lot more foolproof than you might expect. You can get away with a lot inside of them. Just make sure to shut off your AC, kill any fans, and mist your SAB with soapy water before you work. I generally set it up then wait 5 minutes or so for all the air currents to cease in the room before going to work. The key to good SAB work is slow, deliberate movements.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Munchauzen]
#24622340 - 09/11/17 10:07 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'm stressing doing my first g2g in my sab here in a few days. Its a pretty big sab but I still feel like it might not be tall enough. I was thinking about practicing with some dry grain or something.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: DA Double G]
#24622429 - 09/11/17 10:43 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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ya for sure it wouldnt hurt. works the kinks out before you fuck with the money jars
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Munchauzen]
#24622461 - 09/11/17 11:02 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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g2g inside a sab is really easy. imo its easier than agar work. your just dumping grains.
if you slop a few here and there so what? just be careful and practice with legos. dont hit the roof of the sab with the bottom of the jar as you tilt and pour
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Munchauzen]
#24622462 - 09/11/17 11:02 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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I got the biggest tote I could find for my new sab, stepped up from a 66qt to a 50gallon sab...makes g2g a hell of a lot easier
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dhype773
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Leftfield420]
#24622717 - 09/12/17 03:29 AM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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DA Double G said: I'm stressing doing my first g2g in my sab here in a few days. Its a pretty big sab but I still feel like it might not be tall enough. I was thinking about practicing with some dry grain or something.
Mine is too small to bring the jar to a tilt. I couldn't or at all. I had to sterilize a spoon. I put 3 scoops into each jar, and the all look healthy. I just made site not to let the spoon touch the jars at all. Only the grains. I'm definitely going to buy a bigger you're to make a better SAB.
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Lobi
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: dhype773]
#24622961 - 09/12/17 08:04 AM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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Would any of you guys be down to to weigh out 10 100g bags/containers of coir, bringing each to field capacity and then weigh the difference? Measuring the volume would also be a good idea(before and after field capacity) I feel like if we did 10 and did an average we would find a more accurate weight.
I always weigh out everything in grams and measure my water when it comes to gourmet subs. I normally bring them to 60-80% water content depending on species.
How much easier that is than with cubes is crazy. to almost have 0 waste every time is also really nice. solid info about Coirs water holding capacity is something I feel is a lot more valuable than people think. Would be nice to know this info so could weigh out any amount of coir and know exactly how many ml of h2o to use.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: dhype773]
#24623072 - 09/12/17 09:16 AM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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dhype773 said:
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DA Double G said: I'm stressing doing my first g2g in my sab here in a few days. Its a pretty big sab but I still feel like it might not be tall enough. I was thinking about practicing with some dry grain or something.
Mine is too small to bring the jar to a tilt. I couldn't or at all. I had to sterilize a spoon. I put 3 scoops into each jar, and the all look healthy. I just made site not to let the spoon touch the jars at all. Only the grains. I'm definitely going to buy a bigger you're to make a better SAB.
I never thought about doing it like that. I'll try that if i can't tilt inside mine. Did you just wrap the spoon in foil and throw in the PC?
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waxbrain
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Lobi]
#24623104 - 09/12/17 09:34 AM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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so sterilize the SAB with a 70% iso spray, then before work spray inside of SAB with water w/ a tiny bit of soap in it? wouldn't the water drip off the top (bottom of the SAB, just a light spray?)
Also, for my SAB I have the holes on the side, should I say fuck it and trash it or would covering it with duct tape or something similar be fine. I think having the holes in the front would really help me.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Lobi]
#24623114 - 09/12/17 09:38 AM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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Lobi said: Would any of you guys be down to to weigh out 10 100g bags/containers of coir, bringing each to field capacity and then weigh the difference? Measuring the volume would also be a good idea(before and after field capacity) I feel like if we did 10 and did an average we would find a more accurate weight.
I always weigh out everything in grams and measure my water when it comes to gourmet subs. I normally bring them to 60-80% water content depending on species.
How much easier that is than with cubes is crazy. to almost have 0 waste every time is also really nice. solid info about Coirs water holding capacity is something I feel is a lot more valuable than people think. Would be nice to know this info so could weigh out any amount of coir and know exactly how many ml of h2o to use.
100 dry grams? bring to capacity reweigh? next time i bucket tek ill do just that.
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dhype773
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: DA Double G]
#24623122 - 09/12/17 09:42 AM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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DA Double G said:
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dhype773 said:
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DA Double G said: I'm stressing doing my first g2g in my sab here in a few days. Its a pretty big sab but I still feel like it might not be tall enough. I was thinking about practicing with some dry grain or something.
Mine is too small to bring the jar to a tilt. I couldn't or at all. I had to sterilize a spoon. I put 3 scoops into each jar, and the all look healthy. I just made site not to let the spoon touch the jars at all. Only the grains. I'm definitely going to buy a bigger you're to make a better SAB.
I never thought about doing it like that. I'll try that if i can't tilt inside mine. Did you just wrap the spoon in foil and throw in the PC?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: waxbrain]
#24623191 - 09/12/17 10:29 AM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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waxbrain said: so sterilize the SAB with a 70% iso spray, then before work spray inside of SAB with water w/ a tiny bit of soap in it? wouldn't the water drip off the top (bottom of the SAB, just a light spray?)
Also, for my SAB I have the holes on the side, should I say fuck it and trash it or would covering it with duct tape or something similar be fine. I think having the holes in the front would really help me.
side holes sound like a major PITA you can't sterilize with chemicals. only sanitize. it doesn't matter if there's minimal drippage
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waxbrain
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tryptkaloids]
#24623211 - 09/12/17 10:43 AM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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tryptkaloids said:
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waxbrain said: so sterilize the SAB with a 70% iso spray, then before work spray inside of SAB with water w/ a tiny bit of soap in it? wouldn't the water drip off the top (bottom of the SAB, just a light spray?)
Also, for my SAB I have the holes on the side, should I say fuck it and trash it or would covering it with duct tape or something similar be fine. I think having the holes in the front would really help me.
side holes sound like a major PITA you can't sterilize with chemicals. only sanitize. it doesn't matter if there's minimal drippage
Yeah I'm probably gonna buy a bigger tote (currently using one of the tubs i used to fruit in, 58 qt - not much room, more height). I have an untouched long 66 qt tote I could use but maybe I should get something bigger so I dont have to upgrade.
Are you saying that all i should do is clean the tub with soapy water, clean it all off with hot water, let dry, and then spray the water/soap mix all inside? if not using the lid just wipe down surface with chlorox pad (bleach free)? Been pretty confused on this as Ive always just cleaned the tote, sprayed the wiped down the SAB inside with a paper towel and 70% iso, and when not using a lid I just used a chlorox 99.99% bleach free pad for the surface.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: waxbrain]
#24623215 - 09/12/17 10:46 AM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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waxbrain
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: dhype773]
#24623224 - 09/12/17 10:50 AM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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dhype773 said: How to use your SAB.
Thank you dhype & bod, will try it this way.
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