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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Etnospace]
    #24504652 - 07/24/17 09:26 AM (6 years, 6 months ago)

You would want to make cakes with a slight bit of poo in them to be able to pull it off. I think 20% poo is about right, could be wrong you will need to do some research.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: TheMadHatter420]
    #24504667 - 07/24/17 09:34 AM (6 years, 6 months ago)

Pans don't really need poo anymore than cubes do.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #24504674 - 07/24/17 09:40 AM (6 years, 6 months ago)

I think you might have Panaeolus confused with Psilocybe Mexicana.  I haven't seen one documented grow where Pans did nothing but overlay the crap out of coir, and not fruit prolifically.  Mexicana on the other hand likes coir, and coir based substrates.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: hamloaf]
    #24504728 - 07/24/17 10:24 AM (6 years, 6 months ago)

I've seen pans without poo...


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: bodhisatta]
    #24504739 - 07/24/17 10:32 AM (6 years, 6 months ago)

I've seen a couple pooless pan grows, one that comes to mind is pinpornproducers. They never seem to do anywhere near
as well without poo :shrug: P3's tub produced pans that seemingly had no stem and were just caps growing
out of the sub.

Just about every pan grow I've seen without poo is subpar.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: natedawgnow]
    #24504757 - 07/24/17 10:42 AM (6 years, 6 months ago)

This was spawned to only CVG, and YES it is contaminated, but I don't think I would have gotten very big shrooms if it was not. Learn from my failures what you can.



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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: TheMadHatter420]
    #24504760 - 07/24/17 10:43 AM (6 years, 6 months ago)


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Just about every pan grow I've seen without poo is subpar.



Leme fix that for you

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=30&Number=15578698&PHPSESSID=&fpart=1#15578698

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BREEDERS said:
i make this grow log very simple, for purpose to make prints as fast as possible

so i just case Spawn (Rye) with 1cm (pasteurize) poting soil



:cookiemonster:




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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: bodhisatta]
    #24504770 - 07/24/17 10:52 AM (6 years, 6 months ago)

No trace of poo
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4th Flsuh, with biggest panaeolus Sandoze Ever :bigjoint:





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here some pics of the prints, compared to a normal Panaeolus sandoze print, and a PE#6 print...



:shocked:




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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: bodhisatta]
    #24504772 - 07/24/17 10:54 AM (6 years, 6 months ago)

Yep they do very well on cased grain. Muda had some excellent wilds done v tek and I had pretty good results with it as well.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #24504800 - 07/24/17 11:08 AM (6 years, 6 months ago)

:waitwhat:

wait, just grains and pasteurized dirt?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #24504907 - 07/24/17 12:24 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

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Yep they do very well on cased grain. Muda had some excellent wilds done v tek and I had pretty good results with it as well.



They do better on cased manure/straw-based bulk substrate materials.  Pans like to be cased with pasteurized cactus soil too.  That's cool, though that they are fruiting off straight cased grains cased with pasteurized potting soil, but I was talking about pans fruiting from coir.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: hamloaf]
    #24504911 - 07/24/17 12:26 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

That's is a very nice example.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: hamloaf]
    #24504919 - 07/24/17 12:28 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

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Pastywhyte said:
Yep they do very well on cased grain. Muda had some excellent wilds done v tek and I had pretty good results with it as well.



They do better on cased manure/straw-based bulk substrate materials.  Pans like to be cased with pasteurized cactus soil too.  That's cool, though that they are fruiting off straight cased grains cased with pasteurized potting soil, but I was talking about pans fruiting from coir.



When pasty said they didn't need poo you just assumed coir was the only alternative
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I think you might have Panaeolus confused with Psilocybe Mexicana.  I haven't seen one documented grow where Pans did nothing but overlay the crap out of coir, and not fruit prolifically.  Mexicana on the other hand likes coir, and coir based substrates.



Coir isnt the only thing that isn't poo


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: bodhisatta]
    #24504922 - 07/24/17 12:30 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

Hell I might leave poo out of my Pan-cakes, when I get the cubes out of the jars and can get the Pan-cakes going.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: TheMadHatter420]
    #24504926 - 07/24/17 12:31 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

I have one jar of Pan cambo spawn that looks rather decent. I might have to give a try to some thing similar.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: bodhisatta]
    #24505122 - 07/24/17 02:37 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

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Directly inoculating manure won't work



can you explain why its not gonna work ,please? just interesting


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Etnospace]
    #24505146 - 07/24/17 02:47 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

Learn something new everyday. I have a fresh bag of cactus soil for my san pedros and some pan cyan i'm about to put to grain, gonna take my first shot at pasteurizing when it's done


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Germs]
    #24505151 - 07/24/17 02:50 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

inoculating directly manure by the cub spores could be something really new for me:)


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Etnospace]
    #24505176 - 07/24/17 03:06 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

Hey yall i need some help with my grow. I had success, and had 6 strains, then tried to copy them to agar, to which i failed. I stopped using rye grain and started using wbs but im still not haing success. I think its the lids on my jars because i am following the grain tek to a t and sterilized my syringe following another tek. My syringe is still good and so is the lc that i pulled from so i am certain my box is working fine, and that it must be my lids or my grains. Im using a self healing innoc port with polyfil in the other hole. Any advice guys? starting to lose hope here.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: TheMadHatter420]
    #24505201 - 07/24/17 03:18 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

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Hell I might leave poo out of my Pan-cakes, when I get the cubes out of the jars and can get the Pan-cakes going.



If you leave he manure out put straw in there.  If I was going to do a manure less pan sub mix, I'd do 70% wheat straw , 20% grass seed, and 10% vermiculite.


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