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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: SloppyJoseph]
    #24477337 - 07/12/17 07:11 AM (6 years, 6 months ago)

Last vendor I checked was fresh out of APE syringes

Keep trying dude your syringe is bound to have more ape spores than trich anyway


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: hamloaf]
    #24477356 - 07/12/17 07:29 AM (6 years, 6 months ago)

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Nah, the bags will be fine.  It's not the melting, or warping of bags that is the reason for spacers.  The reason for spacers is so that the super heated steam has an easier time evenly heating the substrates.  All you merely have to do if you are going to cram is increase sterilization times.  It's doesn't hurt to couple longer sterilization durations with higher psi's than 15 when cramming either.





Hey Ham...RR claims that the melting is due to the heat from the burner flame traveling up the sides of the PC..Have you ever had melting due to this?  I'm thinking I may need to run a smaller flame on the burner when cramming...Does this make sense?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: ComebackKid]
    #24477369 - 07/12/17 07:37 AM (6 years, 6 months ago)

Any1 got tips ,tricks or links with pan tropicalis?
I wanna read up before they get here:grin:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Crispykoot]
    #24477410 - 07/12/17 08:06 AM (6 years, 6 months ago)

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Nah, the bags will be fine.  It's not the melting, or warping of bags that is the reason for spacers.  The reason for spacers is so that the super heated steam has an easier time evenly heating the substrates.  All you merely have to do if you are going to cram is increase sterilization times.  It's doesn't hurt to couple longer sterilization durations with higher psi's than 15 when cramming either.





Hey Ham...RR claims that the melting is due to the heat from the burner flame traveling up the sides of the PC..Have you ever had melting due to this?  I'm thinking I may need to run a smaller flame on the burner when cramming...Does this make sense?



Hey Crispy!  I have NOT had a bag melt to the sides due to heat from a large flame running up the sides of the PC, but I've only used a gas stove incapable of generating a flame larger than the pot.  That makes sense though.  The only time I have had bags melt is when the PCs were run out of water.  I think you're right about running a smaller flame.  Couldn't hurt.  The few extra minutes spent getting your vessel to temp over ruining all the hard work put into making the bags, and getting them loaded sounds like a sensible trade-off/sacrifice to me.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: hamloaf]
    #24477880 - 07/12/17 12:24 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

Anyone ever grow gold oysters (or any oysters for that matter) on cedar mulch or a combination including cedar mulch?

I've got a ton of it, and a couple jars of GO almost ready to shake, and a couple plates to make more jars, but I read that cedar has some anti fungal properties. I just have no idea if the mulch would as well, and if so, if I should leech it a few times before spawning to it.

Also, if I mixed it with verm and cardboard/newspaper, would I have to sterilize/pasteurize it or would the bucket tek suffice?

Edibles have been giving me nothing but trouble since I started them. Probably shouldn't have started with blue and King oysters in this crazy ass temps. They've been saved for the fall.

I've been tempted to give them straight coir and see what happens, but I doubt that'll work in my favour.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: hamloaf]
    #24477888 - 07/12/17 12:28 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

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Crispykoot said:
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Hamington Loafburg said:
Nah, the bags will be fine.  It's not the melting, or warping of bags that is the reason for spacers.  The reason for spacers is so that the super heated steam has an easier time evenly heating the substrates.  All you merely have to do if you are going to cram is increase sterilization times.  It's doesn't hurt to couple longer sterilization durations with higher psi's than 15 when cramming either.





Hey Ham...RR claims that the melting is due to the heat from the burner flame traveling up the sides of the PC..Have you ever had melting due to this?  I'm thinking I may need to run a smaller flame on the burner when cramming...Does this make sense?



Hey Crispy!  I have NOT had a bag melt to the sides due to heat from a large flame running up the sides of the PC, but I've only used a gas stove incapable of generating a flame larger than the pot.  That makes sense though.  The only time I have had bags melt is when the PCs were run out of water.  I think you're right about running a smaller flame.  Couldn't hurt.  The few extra minutes spent getting your vessel to temp over ruining all the hard work put into making the bags, and getting them loaded sounds like a sensible trade-off/sacrifice to me.





Thanks Ham. Makes sense.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: jkz]
    #24477899 - 07/12/17 12:32 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

I think I remember reading you can get away with it as a part of the mix

there's lipa tek (in my sig) but I didn't have the best luck with it. I'd pasteurize proper if it were me.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Crispykoot]
    #24477909 - 07/12/17 12:37 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

I thought you might like this, Crispy.  I was loading those spent substrate grounds into spawn bags in the amount of 2 gallons, and was able to fit 4 of them big bags into the sterilizer at once by cramming 3 on the bottom, and laying one on it's side on top of the 3 bag tier, and it worked.
     


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: hamloaf]
    #24478329 - 07/12/17 03:59 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

Could someone help me stop this 5 month mold issue I'm having. I get mold on everything I touch.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: van hatton]
    #24478474 - 07/12/17 05:01 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

Hey guys I birthed 2 of my 8 cakes yesterday I dunked them and am about to roll them and put them in the sgfc. I have 2 hygrometers 1 is digital and tells temp the other is a little analogue that you can adjust can any one help me out with how to calibrate and any other tips you might have. I have tried to search the site but I mst suck cause I couldn't find the info. Thanks


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Kyshroomer19xx]
    #24478518 - 07/12/17 05:16 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

First I would like to say, love your signature!!
Fucking Dumbledore is the bomb.
Second from what I've read about the shotgun fruiting chamber, a hygrometer is unnecessary. Monitoring temperature might be helpful if you live in south like me and your area gets really hot at times. But the holes in the tub and the perlite should keep the humidity where it needs to be


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: DA Double G]
    #24478725 - 07/12/17 06:41 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks man I appreciate the info I am just getting ready to put the cakes in the sgfc now another question is I have 2 I bulb fixtures should I use 1 or both and I couldn't find any 6500k bulbs but I got 2900k will that work and thanks for the comment about my signature and your right dumbledore is awesome so is harry potter I love every single book.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: DA Double G]
    #24478728 - 07/12/17 06:43 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

gonna try using a nice shallow glass cosmetics container with a lid sitting on top of it as a petri. The lid has a little more wiggle room on the sides than the retail plastic petri's but we'll see

Been trying to find a place to buy shallow glass like that online but coming up empty. any thoughts on keywords? I've tried makeup, cosmetics, what else comes in shallow glass jars..


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Kyshroomer19xx]
    #24479351 - 07/12/17 11:34 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

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Thanks man I appreciate the info I am just getting ready to put the cakes in the sgfc now another question is I have 2 I bulb fixtures should I use 1 or both and I couldn't find any 6500k bulbs but I got 2900k will that work and thanks for the comment about my signature and your right dumbledore is awesome so is harry potter I love every single book.



I'm kinda thinking ambient light is all that's needed for brf cakes in a sgfc, but I could be wrong,
Hopefully someone with more experience can answer this question??


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: SloppyJoseph]
    #24479357 - 07/12/17 11:37 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

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If you email the vendor and give some pics of gross green plates they might send you a new one.




Doubt it. "Hi, I am using your product illegally to germinate mushroom spores. Please help me break the law!" Syringes are for microscopy only. You'd be better off saying it broke in the mail.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: stareatclouds]
    #24479377 - 07/12/17 11:56 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

They all know what we are doing the vendor i goto told me to put it to agar lmao ..


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Boogieman47]
    #24479448 - 07/13/17 01:17 AM (6 years, 6 months ago)

Of course they know, but I doubt many vendors will be likely to admit it, especially through email or something. They wouldn't want to risk being shut down. Just my $.02.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: stareatclouds]
    #24479454 - 07/13/17 01:22 AM (6 years, 6 months ago)

No i understand that haha i was surprised i got the response back like i did this was when i first started and didnt know any better haha


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Boogieman47]
    #24480121 - 07/13/17 11:48 AM (6 years, 6 months ago)

So I'm having some trouble germinating APE on agar. Over the past 6 weeks I've failed to get any growth on MEA, PDA, or Grain Soak Agar. My temps are around 74 ambient light 12/12 and still haven't had any luck. I got the syringe from a sponsor so I have no idea the age but I'm thinking either force hydrating or putting them straight to grain. Anyone have some suggestions or tips I would greatly appreciate it


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Explicitdetail]
    #24480132 - 07/13/17 11:51 AM (6 years, 6 months ago)

Don't see the need for forced hydration.  Dropping a CC or 2 in between a few grain jars sounds like a good idea.  That way if you get some clean myce you can move a colonized grain kernel onto agar, and go from there.


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