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Thufir_Hawat
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Gorlami]
#24406630 - 06/14/17 10:43 PM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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Shouldn't be, just make sure to store them in a paper bag or something to prevent moisture buildup.
Pleased to announce that several months after starting my first, doomed, batch of jars, 2/4 of round 2 are 100% colonized and started their week of consolidation two days ago! The other 2 I only gave a single inoc point to watch the difference between multi-site and single-site inoculation. They aren't far behind to be honest, though that last little bit seems to be going slower than the rest. Probably just in my mind though.
The plan is to fruit each 'set' as they finish consolidation with two different techniques: one cased and fruited in jar, the other taken out for traditional PF style fruiting.
Given the rate of colonization in my (full) quart jar of spelt I put MSS agar into, I think it will be near 100% and ready to consolidate roughly around when I birth the second set of BRF cakes. Plan is to fruit that one in the jar with a casing layer as well.
The oddball I might have something to do with in the next few days is the weird 'experimental' (yes I know it's not scientific, it's just for fun) oatmeal jar. As I expected, it is not (visibly) colonizing down, as the oatmeal is a dense liquid. The mycellium on the rim has gained definition since these photos I took a couple days ago, I think it desperately wants a casing layer or something. I know I couuuuld just leave it and let it try and pin invitro since there's a GE lid and no worry about c02, buuuuut since I can't see into it, I was thinking of opening the jar inside an alcohol sanitized bag, and then using that as a fruiting tent. Thoughts?
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Mad Season
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Thufir_Hawat]
#24407053 - 06/15/17 05:32 AM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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You'd be lucky if that didn't mold out.
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Explicitdetail
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Mad Season]
#24407311 - 06/15/17 09:29 AM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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Okay so I have a tub about 3 days into pinning and I fucked up by not using a liner (I know I tried to be a bad ass and failed) and now have a really nice pin set coming in on the sides. There are a few clusters on top but the sides seem to be way more dense. My question is do you think if I transferred the sub to a larger tub wth more room on the sides I would be able to salvage more of the side pins and ultimately get more yield, or just let it fruit out in its current tub. Will post pics this evening when I get home from work
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van hatton
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Registered: 11/23/14
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Just let it fruit imo. As the mushrooms absorb water from the sub it will shrink making it easier to grab side pins/mushrooms.
-------------------- If I ever give out misinformation please inform me so I can have the correct information. Tmethyl said: Chuck Norris once roundhouse kicked a monotub that wasn't pinning fast enough. The force of the kick rearranged the genetics of the mushrooms, we now call them Penis Envy. Caps McGee said:
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bodhisatta 
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liners are a crutch you don't need one. I say stick without them till you figure out your setup. then again if you enjoy liners then go for it. it might help but I wouldn't bother moving it.
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mushboy
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: van hatton]
#24407325 - 06/15/17 09:39 AM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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van hatton said: Just let it fruit imo. As the mushrooms absorb water from the sub it will shrink making it easier to grab side pins/mushrooms.
thats what i do.
i do not use liners either. 2nd and 3rd flushes always have side pins but it doest matter. they grow out and up.
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van hatton
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: bodhisatta]
#24407326 - 06/15/17 09:40 AM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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Once you try to pick that sub up or w.e it'll prolly just fall apart on you. Thus damaging forming fruit bodies
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Fun part is figuring out what works best for you
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TheMadHatter420
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: bodhisatta]
#24407329 - 06/15/17 09:41 AM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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I personally have done this. I can't say it really makes for a dramatic increase in the yield, BUT the shrooms will grow away from the sub some if you put them in a bigger tub. As opposed to getting smashed in more. It will make harvesting much easier.
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Explicitdetail
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: bodhisatta]
#24407338 - 06/15/17 09:45 AM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: liners are a crutch you don't need one. I say stick without them till you figure out your setup. then again if you enjoy liners then go for it. it might help but I wouldn't bother moving it.
I realize they are a crutch and my goal is to ultimately not have to use them but I'm still trying to dial in my grow room. I was running a fan 24/7 and had trouble keeping proper surface conditions so I toned it down to 30/30 which seems to be helping. But I'll probably have to use a liner until I really dial in my room. I'm just worried the side pins will abort and my yield will go to shit
Mush and Van: I'll probably just fruit it out in its current tub but maybe when I post pics you'll see what I'm dealing with
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mynakedrat
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Registered: 02/16/17
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Making clean spawn is like learning to wipe your ass. It's dirty at first, then you realize what's going on and get into the motion. It gets better and better, and now I only leave a small skid mark on my drawers!
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van hatton
Still a noob



Registered: 11/23/14
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Loc: Michigan
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No need for a fan. The heat from the sub creates air currents (if I remember right?) Thus giving you plenty of fae as cubes are very co2 tolerant then other species.
-------------------- If I ever give out misinformation please inform me so I can have the correct information. Tmethyl said: Chuck Norris once roundhouse kicked a monotub that wasn't pinning fast enough. The force of the kick rearranged the genetics of the mushrooms, we now call them Penis Envy. Caps McGee said:
Fun part is figuring out what works best for you
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mushboy
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: van hatton]
#24407368 - 06/15/17 09:57 AM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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id ditch the fan too. why do you need to dial in the room?
just learn to work with the ambient conditions you have. the cubes will do the rest. my ambient conditions are 72-75f and dry as fuck. so i mist a lot.
dialing in would mean id need more humidity. which either means a humidifier  or restricting airflow to my substrates. i refuse to do both. so i mist more.
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Explicitdetail
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy]
#24407374 - 06/15/17 09:59 AM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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My reason for a fan is because there is 100% still air in the room I grow in. A large walk in closet in my basement where all vents have been taped closed. I choose to run the fan more so the stale stagnenet air from the closet is being replaced more than for air flow in the tubs
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mushboy
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i grow in a spare bedroom closet. the closest airvent is in the floor on the other side of the room. use the fan if youd like but i think its a million percent not necessary. just my opinion. i could be wrong
why tape the vents closed? and use a fan?
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bodhisatta 
Smurf real estate agent


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy]
#24407384 - 06/15/17 10:05 AM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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my tubs are in a similar room. I closed the vents in there. so the room is totally still. I closed the vents off permanently since I do SAB work in the walk in closet attached to the room.
dial in tubs not a room
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Explicitdetail
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy]
#24407385 - 06/15/17 10:07 AM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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The Midwest bro. It's already upper 90s so to be more effiecient I tape my ac vents closed in the basement since it usually stays around 70-74. Just an energy saving thing
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mushboy
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bodhisatta 
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Explicitdetail said: The Midwest bro. It's already upper 90s so to be more effiecient I tape my ac vents closed in the basement since it usually stays around 70-74. Just an energy saving thing
I live in wisconsin it's like 89F already and it's only 11am it's hit 90s the last 3 days. my tubs are in a room that's 86 degrees. I'll try to cool it down if it hits 90 in the room otherwise fuck it let em rip
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Germs
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy]
#24407395 - 06/15/17 10:10 AM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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Vents in the floors? How old are yalls fuckin houses?
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mushboy
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Germs]
#24407396 - 06/15/17 10:13 AM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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Germs said: Vents in the floors? How old are yalls fuckin houses?
city row houses built in the early 1900s. renovated but they did floor vents. idfk i rent this bitch.
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