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TheMadHatter420
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy]
#24291959 - 05/03/17 09:42 AM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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I'm going to cry when I finally get clean plates.
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van hatton
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It's a good feeling.
So lately I've had low energy and been generally just down. IDC about being down as much as this low energy thing it pisses me off. Would microdosing possible solve that?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: van hatton] 1
#24291977 - 05/03/17 09:51 AM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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van hatton said: It's a good feeling.
So lately I've had low energy and been generally just down. IDC about being down as much as this low energy thing it pisses me off. Would microdosing possible solve that?
What's making you low energy is the weed.
I got a bag a few weeks ago and I can barely chief on it. Just makes me want to eat and sleep. Never get any shrooming done when I have a sack.... just makes me so unmotivated and exhausted feeling.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Moabfighter]
#24291988 - 05/03/17 09:58 AM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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Ever seen this many side pins?

That's about a 2x2 area. Now imagine that around the whole fucking tub. Aggravated as hell man. Oh the surface conditions could be better... followed pastys micropore tape Tek, I cased, mist once every few days. That's it. The fuck else can I do?
KSSS too. Gonna be a huge pain to harvest, and doubt any chance of a second flush. Got another larger tub of this just the same hahahaha. Won't go without a liner again. Shits crazy.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Moabfighter]
#24291990 - 05/03/17 09:59 AM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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Weed gives me a different feels. I need to move back to good dabs. I smoke all day everyday for a few years this has only been a recent thing I feel it's my mush work discouraging me.
I did consider it too be the weed. And didn't smoke for like half a day and I ended up laying in bed almost crying because "I can't do fucking shit right" smoked a bowl and made some bomb ass meatballs. I'm weird lol me and my girl smoke about a zip ever week and a half tops.
-------------------- If I ever give out misinformation please inform me so I can have the correct information. Tmethyl said: Chuck Norris once roundhouse kicked a monotub that wasn't pinning fast enough. The force of the kick rearranged the genetics of the mushrooms, we now call them Penis Envy. Caps McGee said:
Fun part is figuring out what works best for you
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Moabfighter]
#24291996 - 05/03/17 10:01 AM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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if your substrate is pulling away like that its drying out too much so its shrinking ever so slightly. the liner will cling to you substrate to keep the layer close and prevent the climate.
however... your substrate shouldnt pull away like that before the first harvest. solve that problem.. liner becomes pointless(in a sense. im not hating liners just my opinion)
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TheMadHatter420
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Moabfighter]
#24291998 - 05/03/17 10:04 AM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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Moabfighter said: Ever seen this many side pins?

That's about a 2x2 area. Now imagine that around the whole fucking tub. Aggravated as hell man. Oh the surface conditions could be better... followed pastys micropore tape Tek, I cased, mist once every few days. That's it. The fuck else can I do?
KSSS too. Gonna be a huge pain to harvest, and doubt any chance of a second flush. Got another larger tub of this just the same hahahaha. Won't go without a liner again. Shits crazy.
Any chance you can safely manipulate that out of there and set in a bigger mono tub and treat like a giant cake? I would think you may be able to "float" it up to the top, possible slip a clean cookie sheet under it, and set in a tub with a few more inches of room. Then those side pins could mature out. This would be tricky but I did it once, but I had a liner and put it on the lid in the SGFC as all cakes and just finished.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: van hatton]
#24291999 - 05/03/17 10:04 AM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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van hatton said: Weed gives me a different feels. I need to move back to good dabs. I smoke all day everyday for a few years this has only been a recent thing I feel it's my mush work discouraging me.
I did consider it too be the weed. And didn't smoke for like half a day and I ended up laying in bed almost crying because "I can't do fucking shit right" smoked a bowl and made some bomb ass meatballs. I'm weird lol me and my girl smoke about a zip ever week and a half tops.
Man. Maybe different strokes for different folks but IMO you're only living up to maybe half your potential smoking that much. I smoke less than half a gram a day and still sometimes feel its too much. Think about how much more shit you get done those few days waiting for more. I go into stores, go play outside, clean the house, all kinds of shit. Then I get a bag and smoke and literally spend almost all my time on here reading and posting.
Also, it's too late to fix now, yeah? A lot of knots on top. But hell there's pins on the side so those are winning the battle.... it's frustrating man. I try hard. Too hard to have 10 billion side pins.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Moabfighter]
#24292000 - 05/03/17 10:07 AM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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I feel your pain.
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I smoke 5 grams of concentrate a week. I can say, if you feel like you're smoking too much and not getting shit done, don't dab, smoke weed. I go back and forth based on my daily life..
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they are still mushrooms that grew. just not where you wanted them. dont let it frustrate you. the mushrooms are telling you something about the surface conditions you are giving them.
i know its easier said then done because ill do rounds of shoeboxes and a good 1/3 of them will have side pins to some degree. and its always with the trays i just dont quite babysit enough. thats the frustrating part.
knowing which tray are you treating well and which you are neglecting. because its mostly trail and error until you see less and less and less. soon its just like 'oops' this one will have side pins. and you learn and apply.
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Shomann said: I smoke 5 grams of concentrate a week. I can say, if you feel like you're smoking too much and not getting shit done, don't dab, smoke weed. I go back and forth based on my daily life..
Damn! Must be nice. Holler at me.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Moabfighter]
#24292018 - 05/03/17 10:16 AM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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Surface conditions SEEM very ideal. Looks great to me... obviously not so though.
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van hatton
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy]
#24292019 - 05/03/17 10:16 AM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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Dabs are even weird I do a dab and feel like I did a line of snow maybe I'm crazy I haven't been sober in awhile. Bout to go morel hunting I've been looking for one I can clone and a shit ton j could print morels prints anyone?
Moab I'd let it shrink a bit more since it's already happening to make harvesting easier without messing up that sub.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: van hatton]
#24292026 - 05/03/17 10:18 AM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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but its already pulling away?
maybe im nuts but thats how i know i will have side pins before i even see the knots. because my substrate shrank. it shrank because its loosing water. now it has a bad ass micro climate because the conditions are still really good, not in spite of them
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: van hatton]
#24292031 - 05/03/17 10:20 AM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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Haven't had any Dab in about a year but it gave me such a cleaner stone. Kinda like liquor and beer. Beer (weed) makes me sloshy and tired. But I can drink liquor (Dab) like a champ all night and be straight.
In the future mush, what can I do? I opened this tub maybe three times since spawning. I've basically left it alone. Had water beads like that on surface from the start. In the future, just give them more water? Or what? I can't dial in the mistake I made that caused this. Aside from simply not using a liner.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: van hatton]
#24292036 - 05/03/17 10:21 AM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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I'm not saying this is your case, BUT I seem to get more side pins the more bacteria I get. It is like the culture is doing anything and everything to complete the life cycle and get some fruits out. FUCK speaking of which I have to get my PF jars dealt with, one has rather big mushies growing in it.
I have a tamed tub right now that has primordial like a mother fucker on the sides, turning into pins. It has not pulled away a single bit yet.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Moabfighter]
#24292043 - 05/03/17 10:24 AM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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I no your asking him but I would use a touch more water in your sub. If surface conditions have been good since the start maybe there's a lacking of water in the sub. Is that a clone your working with Moab?
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Fun part is figuring out what works best for you
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Moabfighter]
#24292063 - 05/03/17 10:30 AM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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Moabfighter said:
In the future mush, what can I do?.... I've basically left it alone.
dont leave it alone.
maybe your dialing in needs improvement? which i find really difficult. so i mist a a lot. i never fan. i leave lids off or flipped. i bruise my substrates sometimes trying to get the balance right.
we are still learning, you know?
but...
they happen

 so you learn.. dont let the substrate shrink.



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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: van hatton]
#24292064 - 05/03/17 10:30 AM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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van hatton said: I no your asking him but I would use a touch more water in your sub. If surface conditions have been good since the start maybe there's a lacking of water in the sub. Is that a clone your working with Moab?
It's a mutant KSSS agar pin clone, transferred, then that plate pinned with a billion pins and I was told to use t to inoculate. So I made LI with it and here we are today. Prolific pinner for sure.
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