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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy] 6
#28593868 - 12/22/23 09:49 AM (1 month, 5 days ago) |
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: SirPsycho] 1
#28593974 - 12/22/23 11:12 AM (1 month, 5 days ago) |
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: cholwms] 1
#28594146 - 12/22/23 02:27 PM (1 month, 5 days ago) |
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cholwms said: Too lazy to go back more than one page, but is there a reason you can't store in honey? New to all of this, but I've seen a lots of people talking about "blue honey", and I know honey lasts almost forever.
I’ve used honey for years, dried, powdered then mixed and at the same time I tend to make batches of caps for measurement sake and the honey is always consistently across the board a better stronger trip, closer to having them fresh while the caps, even a few weeks later don’t even come close, I get the feeling a lot of people are using fake or processed honey without realising it, I know it’s a big problem over here as manufacturers aren’t legally required to state whether it is or isn’t raw honey and for storing shrooms I only ever use locally sourced raw honey, every second farm has hives where I am so it’s easy. Went through this discussion a while back and tested different weekends with a group of friends using the same shrooms from the same tub powdered at the same time and stored honey/caps and everyone agreed the honey was completely different and better, so much so I had a couple jokingly accuse me of swapping out different varieties. Would love to see others experiment with this so it’s not just my anecdotal experience though.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: SirPsycho] 1
#28594188 - 12/22/23 03:04 PM (1 month, 5 days ago) |
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I thought you may of been referring to bottles but given how you said it I thought you meant to hydrate coir with coffee water for spawning.
Bottles all day cuz
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy] 2
#28594266 - 12/22/23 04:24 PM (1 month, 5 days ago) |
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mushboy said: I thought you meant to hydrate coir with coffee water for spawning.
Oh lol no that's dumb. I've seen mold grow on coffee grounds in the bin within 24 hours.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: SirPsycho] 2
#28594358 - 12/22/23 05:49 PM (1 month, 5 days ago) |
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Way]
#28595851 - 12/23/23 09:58 PM (1 month, 4 days ago) |
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy]
#28601588 - 12/28/23 09:29 PM (30 days, 10 hours ago) |
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For LC, how high of a sugar content can you go before trouble?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: YoshiTrainer]
#28601720 - 12/29/23 01:31 AM (30 days, 6 hours ago) |
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YoshiTrainer said: For LC, how high of a sugar content can you go before trouble?
Make some different nute level lc's and report back to us.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: LewDoja]
#28601821 - 12/29/23 05:42 AM (30 days, 1 hour ago) |
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I eyeball things but I made some with a lot of LME, the only issue I had was it grew too thick to suck into syringes after a while.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: YoshiTrainer]
#28601825 - 12/29/23 05:47 AM (30 days, 1 hour ago) |
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YoshiTrainer said: For LC, how high of a sugar content can you go before trouble?
Lot of room to work with considering most use 2% LME for AGAR and 0.1% for LC. Not sure why you would want your LC to be higher in sugars. Less is More.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: RockinRobot]
#28602027 - 12/29/23 09:38 AM (29 days, 21 hours ago) |
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Thank you guys, I'm just thinking long term LC storage. I know people do 2% for agar, etc. Maybe I'll start w/4-6%?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: YoshiTrainer] 1
#28602031 - 12/29/23 09:40 AM (29 days, 21 hours ago) |
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YoshiTrainer said: Thank you guys, I'm just thinking long term LC storage. I know people do 2% for agar, etc. Maybe I'll start w/4-6%?
My LC been sitting for a year with .1% and still works great. I actually had to take some back to agar because my Nats tried to fruit on the surface because I wasn't stirring it
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: RockinRobot] 1
#28602040 - 12/29/23 09:43 AM (29 days, 21 hours ago) |
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You definitely don’t need to alter the nutrient density for long term storage, and I wouldn’t go higher than agar for any reason. Distilled water makes a good storage medium for wedges and that’s 0%
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Smellyhobbit]
#28602045 - 12/29/23 09:47 AM (29 days, 21 hours ago) |
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Thank you guys!
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Smellyhobbit]
#28602074 - 12/29/23 10:19 AM (29 days, 21 hours ago) |
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Smellyhobbit said: You definitely don’t need to alter the nutrient density for long term storage, and I wouldn’t go higher than agar for any reason. Distilled water makes a good storage medium for wedges and that’s 0%
I make pasty ezlc and the recipe calls for more nutes because it just uses sterile water
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tryptkaloids] 2
#28603975 - 12/30/23 10:44 PM (28 days, 8 hours ago) |
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Pretty sure I’m not breaking new ground here but would love to know if others have been doing this and what their success rate has been like, I’ve only tried it a few times and it’s worked perfectly each time but it could also be dumb luck, I’ve been cutting small gill fragments from as close to the cap as possible to avoid potential contamination and dragging them over a plate for ms grows, maybe I read it somewhere and can’t remember and I’m just regurgitating old information that’s been proven non viable but 3 out of 3 ain’t bad so far
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: 3.A.M] 3
#28603983 - 12/30/23 10:50 PM (28 days, 8 hours ago) |
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Sounds cool. How sure are you it's spores germing and not small clones?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tryptkaloids] 2
#28603991 - 12/30/23 11:05 PM (28 days, 8 hours ago) |
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Not at all and definitely something I question, 1 plate definitely had a few tiny fragments stick and there was obvious growth from those areas but on all plates there’s been growth in the pattern I’ve streaked, also different types of myc, not that that is definitive of ms of course. Also 2 of the grows definitely had huge variety pheno wise, this is the crux though, if I can’t guarantee it’s spores every time instead of clone material it’s a no go really. Got plenty of crosses atm, I’ll fuck around and see if I can find out more 👍
Edit: do we not also get gill fragments on swabs?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: 3.A.M] 2
#28604153 - 12/31/23 04:59 AM (28 days, 2 hours ago) |
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We definitely do! Along with veil fragments on prints. This is all a very good point 🧐 maybe take a print of one and pull spores for the center of the print, away from any possible veil remnants. And then do a comparison run; Spores from print, Spores from your fill fragment method Tissue clone
All to agar, see which colonizes fastest, surely the tissue clone will. If your method germinates the same as the print, I would assume you’re getting spores
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