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tryptkaloids
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Pickle Rick]
#28506323 - 10/16/23 02:28 AM (3 months, 11 days ago) |
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Mold gets killed in the pc. Wash your grains before prep
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tryptkaloids]
#28506335 - 10/16/23 03:08 AM (3 months, 11 days ago) |
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wash as in rinse, or soap and suds and all that ?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Pickle Rick]
#28506338 - 10/16/23 03:18 AM (3 months, 11 days ago) |
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Pickle Rick said: my question is - if the grains were rotting/moldy... wouldnt contamination occur at the stage of inoculation/colonization rather than when being sent to bulk.
Contamination wouldn't occur at all after performing a proper sterilization, even if the grains were literally molding when putting them in the jars. That's what sterilization entails.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tryptkaloids]
#28506373 - 10/16/23 04:22 AM (3 months, 11 days ago) |
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Id use Soap and water, thorough rinse
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Pickle Rick]
#28506435 - 10/16/23 06:34 AM (3 months, 11 days ago) |
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Pickle Rick said: wash as in rinse, or soap and suds and all that ?
Yessir. Use hot water and a drop of soap. I rinse mine about 4 or 5 times, until the water runs clear.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Smellyhobbit]
#28506471 - 10/16/23 07:36 AM (3 months, 11 days ago) |
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Since we are talking basic hand hygiene I'll share one of my old faves, we used to have a diagram kind of like this posted above the sink at work, serves as a helpful reminder of the places people miss the most when washing their hands.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Pickle Rick]
#28506697 - 10/16/23 10:35 AM (3 months, 10 days ago) |
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Pickle Rick said: the bag of dry grain, before any processing what so ever has black spots and smells a bit moldy. I didnt notice this and prepared it normally. the bags (of grain spawn) developed fine. After being sent to bulk, they contaminated.
my question is - if the grains were rotting/moldy... wouldnt contamination occur at the stage of inoculation/colonization rather than when being sent to bulk.
hope its clearer
There is a lesser known thing regarding mold before PC'ing. The molds can form anti-fungal chemicals as they grow. These chemicals can survive Sterilization and hamper grows. This usually shows up as slowed mycelia growth... but I could see the chemicals weakening the grow enough to allow a contamination to get a foothold. I have personal, repeatable, experience with my grain spawn fermenting before PC'ing (my workflow was too slow) and it nearly ceased the colonization of that spawn.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tedoro]
#28506819 - 10/16/23 12:22 PM (3 months, 10 days ago) |
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What chemicals do mold form that survive a sterilization? Not discounting your experience I'm just curious.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: WyoMX] 1
#28507122 - 10/16/23 04:38 PM (3 months, 10 days ago) |
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The growth on this one has been pretty slow.
Tub on the 14th (I harvested a few this day because the caps were broken)

Tub today

Should I just clear this harvest this flush tomorrow morning to clear the deck, and let the second come in?
These are BM.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: stakesalad]
#28507133 - 10/16/23 04:46 PM (3 months, 10 days ago) |
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I also harvested these after taking the first pic... The veils broke on these guys, so I left the rest.
Did I make the right call? Think I got them too early and should've just waited?
Dried them (more to try out my dehydrator) and got a measly 1.3g 😂.
If I don't want to throw them in the dehydrator immediately so it doesn't run mostly empty; but, I also don't want to neglect the ones that need to be picked, how do you guys manage that?? Do you throw it in a brown bag in the refrigerator for a day or two, or is that a bad idea? I know the philosophy is to get them dried ASAP but harvesting is a new phase to me, so I'm trying to figure out how to ride the bike here.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: WyoMX] 2
#28507243 - 10/16/23 06:06 PM (3 months, 10 days ago) |
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WyoMX said: What chemicals do mold form that survive a sterilization? Not discounting your experience I'm just curious.
Molds and mushrooms both produce a number anti-biological metabolites to combat other molds, mushrooms, bacteria etc.. Sterilization kills the living organisms and denatures the spores. But any metabolites they've produced will remain.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: JXAllen]
#28509066 - 10/18/23 07:07 AM (3 months, 9 days ago) |
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Thought my plant had trich in its soil.. turns out it was mycelium. Is this a cube? I may have topped up the soil with some coir after making a tub bare handed
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Pickle Rick]
#28509110 - 10/18/23 07:34 AM (3 months, 9 days ago) |
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Not a cube
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Pickle Rick] 1
#28509142 - 10/18/23 07:49 AM (3 months, 9 days ago) |
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Pickle Rick said: Thought my plant had trich in its soil.. turns out it was mycelium. Is this a cube? I maybe have topped up the soil with some color after making a tub bare handed

Likely leucocoprinus
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: PBJ710]
#28509856 - 10/18/23 06:53 PM (3 months, 8 days ago) |
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Leucocoprinus birnbaumii
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Nichrome]
#28510947 - 10/19/23 06:59 PM (3 months, 7 days ago) |
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Yall mushroom IDers are such dweebs I swear 
I wish I knew how to do that
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Benson]
#28510965 - 10/19/23 07:27 PM (3 months, 7 days ago) |
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You just gotta post lots of id requests 
You start to get to know them
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Inocuole]
#28511000 - 10/19/23 07:49 PM (3 months, 7 days ago) |
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are you able/willing to provide an id on either of these?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: fiddle_head]
#28511021 - 10/19/23 07:57 PM (3 months, 7 days ago) |
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Better pictures of the gills, the stem base, a cut center, etc etc. Region/habitat info....
More pictures.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: fiddle_head]
#28511031 - 10/19/23 08:02 PM (3 months, 7 days ago) |
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LOL...I only knew that one because I found some in potting soil a week ago and wanted to know what they were. Luckily it was pretty common mushroom and was easy to find via search engine using 'yellow mushroom potting soil' for a search.
Not sure how many could ID those only from a single photo and no other info, but if you fill out the template and post it in the mushroom hunting and identification section you'll probably get some assistance from trusted identifiers.
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