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tryptkaloids
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: A.k.a]
#28497440 - 10/09/23 09:59 AM (3 months, 17 days ago) |
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A.k.a said: I’ve been having a problem with them lately also. No matter how much I cleaned or how many I killed they kept coming it was crazy. I finally figured out they’re breeding in the wet leaf litter where my window ac unit drips water and then coming in through the vents in the ac.
Growing in bags should fix it, or I was even considering making big covers of cheesecloth to put around my tubs until i figured things out 
you still have your window unit in? its october my guy, put that shit in storage
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tryptkaloids]
#28497484 - 10/09/23 10:46 AM (3 months, 17 days ago) |
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It's gonna be 95 where he lives today some places window units stay in year round.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: WyoMX]
#28497715 - 10/09/23 02:25 PM (3 months, 17 days ago) |
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Haha yeah man it’s AC season until thanksgiving for me. Then starts up again around April. Shits brutal here
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Pickle Rick]
#28498511 - 10/10/23 06:54 AM (3 months, 17 days ago) |
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I've had infestations of fungus gnats when I was growing plants. They would typically ride along in pots from the supermarket; sage and basil etc that they sell with hydroponic pots. I never bring these into the house anymore without replacing the soil/peat with fresh coco.
What you need is Bti bacteria, typically sold as mosquito dunks/bits. It's not available in my region either, but you can find amazon shops that ship internationally. If you have any house plants in the house, tossing out your shoeboxes is not gonna help. One surviving gnat is enough to get a new infestation. You can dissolve the mosquito bits in water and mist the surfaces repeatedly, like every day for a week. House plants can be watered with Bti-soaked water.
Diatomaceous earth does not work. The idea is it will enter the gnat's exosceleton and cut the the bastards up. It gets soggy in your pots/sub, and I think that's why it doesn't affect the gnats.
So that takes care of the larvae, but you also need to kill the gnats. For that you need yellow sticky tape. Place it in all pots and near your mushroom sub, sticky side up. Keep some sticky paper around even after you think they're all gone. The sticky paper serves as an early warning of an infestation as the gnats are easy to spot once they're stuck.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Bismillah]
#28498706 - 10/10/23 11:04 AM (3 months, 16 days ago) |
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a little cup of half water half apple cider vinegar and a drop of soap also makes a decent gnat catcher. they're attracted to the acv then the soap messes up their wings. just get ready to explain that you do not have hepatitis and the weird cup in the bathroom is definitely not piss
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NotFromGeorgia said: a little cup of half water half apple cider vinegar and a drop of soap also makes a decent gnat catcher. they're attracted to the acv then the soap messes up their wings. just get ready to explain that you do not have hepatitis and the weird cup in the bathroom is definitely not piss
When I lived in texas this worked super well. I had a cup with rice vinegar (woulda used apple cider vinegar but didnt have any) and water, put cling wrap over the top and poked holes in the cling wrap with a toothpick. 3 days later all the gnats were gone. I wasn't growing at the time but had gnats like crazy from plants. Thought I took care of the plants but kept getting them until that trap.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: WyoMX]
#28502765 - 10/13/23 04:09 AM (3 months, 14 days ago) |
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Hi everyone, first time doing bottle tek.
Any idea why there are so many primordia forming on the side of the jar?
The substrate seems to be flush with the glass and i don't see any air pockets, so I'm a bit puzzled as to where I'm fucking up here. Preped the bottles according to Munch's video series on bottle tek with the difference being I used verm to case not coir.
Edited by drVetker (10/13/23 04:10 AM)
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: drVetker]
#28502769 - 10/13/23 04:13 AM (3 months, 14 days ago) |
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Probably a response to something off in the jar.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: DERRAYLD]
#28502780 - 10/13/23 04:40 AM (3 months, 14 days ago) |
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Thank you for replying. This is not good. I posted a question about spotting contamination when doing bottle tek, couple weeks ago but got no answer. With grain spawn i used Stipe's video on determining if the grain is axenic, but here with bottle tek where the substrate is mixed in I'm not sure what to look out for. Smells ok no off notes, smells like mycelium.
Do you have any idea what signs should i look for if the bottle is contaminated? Aside from obvious molds and bacterial metabolites ooze pooling at the bottom?
Here I see nothing indicating contam except now as you said primordia forming where not expected.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: drVetker]
#28502784 - 10/13/23 05:00 AM (3 months, 14 days ago) |
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Imagine it's a monotub or shoebox that has started pinning prior to full colonization.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: DERRAYLD]
#28502832 - 10/13/23 06:38 AM (3 months, 14 days ago) |
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DERRAYLD said: Imagine it's a monotub or shoebox that has started pinning prior to full colonization.
Ha, thank you very much for replying, sorry Derrayld for the long litanies, but i might be too noob to understand what you are trying to say. If i understand correctly, you mean it's running to fruit early and unselectively because of contam, so it's pinning early and all over. Am i getting you?
It's hard for me to accept that this is not completely colonized., i nocked up the bottles on 20th of September, shook when it was 30% colonized. The recovery was very quick, under a week to what seemed to me fully colonized, i let it go a few more days to make sure and checked the surface to make sure it's nice and fluffed up and cased with verm around the 8 day mark after the shake and put the baggies over the bottles to fruit.
Could it be that the p. Cubensis hawaii pes genetics that I'm cultivating here only look like this. The photo doesn't show that there is myc permeating the coir sub all over but it's more rizo on some spots than others.
Because of lack of clear contamination signs (at least for my noob ability to spot them) could it be that I'm fucking up surface conditions or conditions in general, and this is the reason for so many side pins? Baggies have 16 small needle sized holes. Thought surface condish will be a no brainer with bottle tek.
I took a few more pix in case you're not too tiered of me.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: drVetker]
#28502836 - 10/13/23 06:48 AM (3 months, 14 days ago) |
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drVetker said:
could it be that I'm fucking up surface conditions or conditions in general, and this is the reason for so many side pins?
This is 100% my thinking.
The imperfect seal the baggie provides is ample fae. The top dried out, leaving the sides as the most humid microclimate available to pin into.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tryptkaloids]
#28502843 - 10/13/23 06:56 AM (3 months, 14 days ago) |
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tryptkaloids said:
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drVetker said:
could it be that I'm fucking up surface conditions or conditions in general, and this is the reason for so many side pins?
This is 100% my thinking.
The imperfect seal the baggie provides is ample fae. The top dried out, leaving the sides as the most humid microclimate available to pin into.
Thank you for replying. I have a rubber band around the baggie and the bottle neck (see pic). Still an imperfect seal granted. The sub i made sure was hydrated to field capacity and the verm casing layer i saturated by spraying really relly well with the mister once at casing. It still seems moist not dry. Could it be the other way around, i.e. that i oversaturated the verm casing with water and this is why nothing is coming through?

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: drVetker]
#28502850 - 10/13/23 07:01 AM (3 months, 14 days ago) |
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Idk man, top fruiting jars always gave me this issue.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tryptkaloids]
#28502851 - 10/13/23 07:03 AM (3 months, 14 days ago) |
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tryptkaloids said: Idk man, top fruiting jars always gave me this issue.
Thank you anyway for trying to help.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: drVetker]
#28503419 - 10/13/23 03:34 PM (3 months, 13 days ago) |
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It looks colonized but really dry.
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smalltalk_canceled said: okay, fimetaria found, fimetaria grown, fimetaria survives from 2022 to 2023 so bi annual proven.
now to have a single semilanceata picker find it, so we can prove it to the national database that they occur naturally in norway for the first time
if the 14 semilanceata subs i have colonizing also fruits this year,
im expecting an invite to canada to bring the news of nordic mycology to the grand old big ass US/Canada communities
we gonna be growing them both like they were cubes by 2030
mark my words
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Alan check your twitter
10 month check:
fimetaria was hispanica I quit my job semis probably wont fruit woodlovers dont fruit the prospects cheap manpower, low energy cheap rent or cheap materials is lolworthy where i might in my current imagination, work and live
the entire world is in war and recession
if by some measure I shall survive this "startup" period for myself my next goal is to get a pasteurizing chamber built. Something that could host maybe a few wheelable shelves which you could pasteurize substrate bags in.
Im also thinking about a mobile solution a la ricky from trailer park, you know building the back of a trailer into a pasteurizing chamber so you could make substrate bags anywhere, a sprinter, roadusale "hut" or container that could be moved even if it had to be plugged in.
ive landed on the conclusion that i have to learn myself how to build and maintain and use a pasteurizing chamber, and instead will accept that i will never be able to build a autoclave, so that i will have to buy used or get a good deal on.
the bigget problem is not making mushrooms - its selling them
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So.. I inspected my grain (milo). Smells a little moldy and have black spots on them. Obviously I wont be using them again.. kinda sucks because I have a huge bag.
However, it raises a question. If they were contaminated from the get go. Then: rinsed, soaked, simmered, bagged, pc'd, inoculated ---> wouldn't they contaminate in the bags? Would there be a reason they'd only contaminate when sent to bulk?
Or am I barking up the wrong tree, the grain is fine and my contam is happening somewhere else?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Pickle Rick]
#28506255 - 10/16/23 12:21 AM (3 months, 11 days ago) |
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Its a bit hard to follow what you are asking. Is this grain spawn? Has it been inoculated? We need a bit more details.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tedoro]
#28506266 - 10/16/23 12:49 AM (3 months, 11 days ago) |
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the bag of dry grain, before any processing what so ever has black spots and smells a bit moldy. I didnt notice this and prepared it normally. the bags (of grain spawn) developed fine. After being sent to bulk, they contaminated.
my question is - if the grains were rotting/moldy... wouldnt contamination occur at the stage of inoculation/colonization rather than when being sent to bulk.
hope its clearer
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