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nektar61
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: altford78] 2
#28389269 - 07/08/23 11:44 AM (6 months, 19 days ago) |
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A.k.a said: Man datura and those kind of deliriant drugs are the one class I’ve never had an interest in. When I was like 16-20 a lot people would go hunt datura and I’d say prob 80% of them woke up in the hospital or jail.
Another thing about Jimson, ZERO euphoria. I am told that even sniffing glue gives some euphoria.
I forget who said it, but someone pointed out that the drugs that feel like shit when you're on them are all legal, and the ones that feel good are illegal.
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altford78 said: Plenty of people in mental institutions have a foot, or three, in the spirit realm. Could they have been shamans if they were born in a different place at a different time? Maybe. Depends. .... which is kind of what this whole drug tourism thing has turned them to......and they managed just as fine to talk to demons and roll on the floor in a hypermanic state. One of those guys rolls up to your door one day mumbling to himself, covered in ticks and leaches, asks for a plate of food you bet your ass you are giving him the food lol. You don't want the shaman to be angry at you, now do you?
I know it's more than a trip sitter. When I suggested co-shamaning with your friends, I'm just dismissing the whole idea of the spirit guide.
If god exists, or the godhead within, going to someone special to guide you ALWAYS comes with more baggage than not.
Psychedelics themselves are the spirit guide. You don't need a religious set and setting. Even Beavis and Butthead types popping a tab to "get high as balls" will be changed forever by it.
You don't need spiritual intent or even "heroic doses" to be fundamentally changed for the better.
Whether it's a hippie who "might be part Native American", or a Catholic priest, or an old Yaqui woman, or some high school drop out with 500 hits of purple microdot in a 35 mm film can in the pocket of his second-hand army jacket, they're all getting off on the idea of having power...of people traveling to them, seeking them, giving them food, sex, money, respect, time, attention.
I heavily question the whole dynamic, it is derailing trains (and I know that comment was making fun of the debuking, based on his post history).
I think the Shroomery is very important because it's democratized access to powerful psychedelics.
The collective grow experience of this site, more than anything, is a real shaman. (That's why I yell at noobs who dilute it by giving wrong grow info and double down on it being right.)
One thing that's going to be pretty funny is that the state of Oregon is licencing psychedelic guides apparently. I like that they basically legalized drugs, and of COURSE they're providing a path to this, but I predict it will be a mess.
This is the Oregon state government health site, licensing psychedelic shamans, Oregon Psilocybin Services - Facilitator License: https://www.oregon.gov/oha/PH/PREVENTIONWELLNESS/Pages/Psilocybin-License-Facilitator.aspx
Here's the PDF with guidelines: https://www.oregon.gov/oha/PH/PREVENTIONWELLNESS/Documents/Facilitator-License-Application-Guide-ONLINE.pdf
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: nektar61]
#28389501 - 07/08/23 04:12 PM (6 months, 19 days ago) |
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Manure - how to prep it?
Hi everyone,
How do you prep the manure for growing mushies?
My grandad used to clean the stall and chuck it all on a pile and it would ferment and smoke and when it was done fermenting it would be used for fertilizing the garden.
I got my hands on some that has been fermenting outside and seems to be done with the process, doesn't smell foul or anything. It even had some shroomies growing on the edge of the pile.
The question is do I use this directly for an outdoor patch or do I still need to sterilize or pasteurize? I would like to avoid using the PC for shit if at all possible. Cause I do this small scale and cook also soup in mine.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: drVetker] 3
#28389517 - 07/08/23 04:26 PM (6 months, 19 days ago) |
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If you sterilize, it will need to be inoculated and allowed to colonize aseptically, as in a grow bag. Pasteurized in a hot water bath between 150-160 for and hour or so it can be cooled and spawned to in open air. You could probably get away with an outdoor bed spawned without treating it but I’d wait for other insight from those who have done outdoor beds to chime in.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: SirPsycho]
#28389523 - 07/08/23 04:35 PM (6 months, 19 days ago) |
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SirPsycho said: Grass with mushrooms? How innovative...

Hi Sir, this post of yours got me wondering if I could do cubensis in a flower pot outside.
Wanted to ask how you do this?
I thought of doing a shit sandwich with the sub from a spent shoeboxe after the third flush is done. Would that be possible even?
The idea was to try to do it like 3.A.M. does his outdoor grow.i caught his post here. Difference being that I wanted to use the spent sub instead of fresh grain spawn.
Is all of this a bad idea? Would you mind sharing some info on how you did your flower pot grow?
Why the grass etc. I thought maybe casing thes shit sandwich with a 1-2 cm of coir and maybe planting some filed flowers or cress or something.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Mycolorado] 2
#28389524 - 07/08/23 04:36 PM (6 months, 19 days ago) |
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Mycolorado said: If you sterilize, it will need to be inoculated and allowed to colonize aseptically, as in a grow bag. Pasteurized in a hot water bath between 150-160 for and hour or so it can be cooled and spawned to in open air. You could probably get away with an outdoor bed spawned without treating it but I’d wait for other insight from those who have done outdoor beds to chime in.
Thank you sir
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: drVetker] 2
#28389529 - 07/08/23 04:45 PM (6 months, 19 days ago) |
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drVetker said:
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SirPsycho said: Grass with mushrooms? How innovative...

Hi Sir, this post of yours got me wondering if I could do cubensis in a flower pot outside.
Wanted to ask how you do this?
I thought of doing a shit sandwich with the sub from a spent shoeboxe after the third flush is done. Would that be possible even?
The idea was to try to do it like 3.A.M. does his outdoor grow.i caught his post here. Difference being that I wanted to use the spent sub instead of fresh grain spawn.
Is all of this a bad idea? Would you mind sharing some info on how you did your flower pot grow?
Why the grass etc. I thought maybe casing thes shit sandwich with a 1-2 cm of coir and maybe planting some filed flowers or cress or something.
 
Just bury the spent cake in coir.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: SirPsycho]
#28389536 - 07/08/23 04:54 PM (6 months, 19 days ago) |
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SirPsycho said:
 
Just bury the spent cake in coir.
Ok Coolio, thank you. I see bags over the pots? That with some holes poked or open air all the way?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: drVetker]
#28389538 - 07/08/23 04:56 PM (6 months, 19 days ago) |
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drVetker said:
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SirPsycho said:
 
Just bury the spent cake in coir.
Ok Coolio, thank you. I see bags over the pots? That with some holes poked or open air all the way?
Depends on your climate. I've found bags with holes best for mine
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: SirPsycho]
#28389562 - 07/08/23 05:25 PM (6 months, 19 days ago) |
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SirPsycho said:
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drVetker said:
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SirPsycho said:
 
Just bury the spent cake in coir.
Ok Coolio, thank you. I see bags over the pots? That with some holes poked or open air all the way?
Depends on your climate. I've found bags with holes best for mine
Ok thank you.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: drVetker]
#28391047 - 07/10/23 05:55 AM (6 months, 17 days ago) |
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I saw in a YouTube video that they use ultraviolet light to identify contamination before it develops. I wonder if I can use black light for agar as well?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Sun-flare] 4
#28391048 - 07/10/23 06:00 AM (6 months, 17 days ago) |
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Who’s ‘they’ because that sounds kinda dumb
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy]
#28391072 - 07/10/23 06:30 AM (6 months, 17 days ago) |
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I don’t remember the name of the channel. The guy was using Uv flashlight to illuminate the monotub while it was not fully colonized. And he explained that if there is a contamination it will glow.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Sun-flare] 9
#28391078 - 07/10/23 06:32 AM (6 months, 17 days ago) |
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ill give you a protip. that guy is one thousand percent full of shit.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy] 4
#28391083 - 07/10/23 06:40 AM (6 months, 17 days ago) |
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Pro tip for navigating growing active mushrooms! Did you see it anywhere but Shroomery? Chances are it’s 95% likely bullshit and wrong! Press like and subscribe and make sure to hit that notification bell!
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy] 1
#28391445 - 07/10/23 03:32 PM (6 months, 17 days ago) |
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mushboy said:

ill give you a protip. that guy is one thousand percent full of shit.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: SirPsycho] 2
#28391475 - 07/10/23 03:54 PM (6 months, 17 days ago) |
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I cant find the pics but i used to mix the spawn in with the top few inches of potting soil and grow cubes in the ganja pots
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Sun-flare] 1
#28391652 - 07/10/23 07:10 PM (6 months, 17 days ago) |
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Sun-flare said: I saw in a YouTube video that they use ultraviolet light to identify contamination before it develops. I wonder if I can use black light for agar as well?
I thought this when I was new too. There's even a post here from about 3 years ago of me talking about it.
Contam is best IDed by eye, though I can also smell it through the filter sometimes if it makes it to grain. I think other people could to if they try, I do not have an amazing sense of smell.
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Sun-flare said: The guy was using Uv flashlight to illuminate the monotub while it was not fully colonized.
But you want to spot it on agar so it never makes it to grain jars. And you certainly don't want contam to make it to a tub.
That's part of why people do agar transfers here instead of just squirting spores on grain like on Reddit.
Problem is with IDing contam with non-visible light is that IF some contam glows a little bit under UV light, not all will glow under UV light. And more than that, healthy cube shroom mycelium glows under UV light a little bit too:
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Sun-flare said: I don’t remember the name of the channel
Was it this joker?

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: nektar61]
#28392425 - 07/11/23 12:48 PM (6 months, 16 days ago) |
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https://twitter.com/Tripsittermag/status/1678802471609679872
Noticed this article on twitter two days ago
It deals with active (but impotent?) members of the pluteus species
Same account also shared this:
https://twitter.com/Tripsittermag/status/1675873807146287104
On the Conocybe species, which also has active members
Now for the question(s)
Has anyone seen grows or spore prints of these shared here at the shroomery?
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Pluteus are incredibly hard to grow, you need some special agar medium.
People have grown Conocybe cyanopus a long time back, but not recently, at least to my knowledge.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Adas]
#28400012 - 07/18/23 06:01 PM (6 months, 9 days ago) |
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PF Tek BRF cake question
Hi everyone, generally the suggestion is not to go spore to grain but clean it up on agar and then send it. Now, with PF Tek we go spore to "substrate i guess" and are not worried about contamination. Why? Why does a brf + verm cake specifically lend itself to this approach of inoculating with multispore and fruiting? I mean, what is it about the substrate here that doesn't make it necessary to have clean culture to inoculate with?
Plus, does anyone ever use clean agar to inoculate a BRF cake and do PF Tek? or is that pointless and would bring nothing?
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