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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: altford78]
    #28344045 - 06/02/23 06:15 AM (7 months, 24 days ago)

Realistically, how much do you guys think I could push the spawn:sub ratio for jars that look like what I have, and get away with it?  (I'm not going to quote the pics again and spam the thread, they are a couple posts above)


For shoeboxes. I think 1:2 should be reasonable, 1:4 might be pushing it a tad much ?

EDIT: LOL of course my post is a new page. Pics: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/28343103#28343103


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: elthedreamer] * 1
    #28344046 - 06/02/23 06:17 AM (7 months, 24 days ago)

As I mentioned earlier, there was a fluffy overlay on the mushrooms in the picture. I have removed it, and now they look like this. They appear strange to me, and I would like to get your opinion on them.



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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: elthedreamer]
    #28344047 - 06/02/23 06:20 AM (7 months, 24 days ago)

looks like bruising because you scraped the myc off, what are you concerned about


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: altford78] * 1
    #28344051 - 06/02/23 06:22 AM (7 months, 24 days ago)

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altford78 said:
Realistically, how much do you guys think I could push the spawn:sub ratio for jars that look like what I have, and get away with it?  (I'm not going to quote the pics again and spam the thread, they are a couple posts above)


For shoeboxes. I think 1:2 should be reasonable, 1:4 might be pushing it a tad much ?

EDIT: LOL of course my post is a new page. Pics: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/28343103#28343103



If you’re worried about bacteria, 1:1 or 1:2 will be fast enough that you’ll get fruit, but don’t expect too much in the way of subsequent flushes.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Smellyhobbit]
    #28344056 - 06/02/23 06:32 AM (7 months, 24 days ago)

Yeah, I guess I should play it safe and go for 1:2. You think they will succumb to mold before first flush with 1:4, yeah?

I do have 6 quarts, I guess I could do one 1:4 for future reference, so I know that a jar that looks like that can/cannot be spawned with 1:4.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: altford78]
    #28344083 - 06/02/23 07:11 AM (7 months, 24 days ago)

I should not have removed the fluffy thing (mycelium) from the mushrooms, right?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: altford78] * 1
    #28344125 - 06/02/23 08:17 AM (7 months, 24 days ago)

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Yeah, I guess I should play it safe and go for 1:2. You think they will succumb to mold before first flush with 1:4, yeah?

I do have 6 quarts, I guess I could do one 1:4 for future reference, so I know that a jar that looks like that can/cannot be spawned with 1:4.



Yeah if you’re worried about bacteria don’t go above 1:2. That’s my advice. I’ve had spawn that looked 100% fine trich out at 1:3. It just has a longer colonization time. But I’ve sent lots of highly bacterial spawn at 1:1 that gave me 10-15g. Rarely a second flush, though.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: elthedreamer] * 1
    #28344129 - 06/02/23 08:19 AM (7 months, 24 days ago)

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I should not have removed the fluffy thing (mycelium) from the mushrooms, right?



What do you mean?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Smellyhobbit]
    #28344215 - 06/02/23 09:31 AM (7 months, 24 days ago)

Alright, I'll let the jars sit at 100% for a few more days, spawn at 1:2 and won't compress the substrate that much. Should give them a fighting chance.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Smellyhobbit]
    #28344245 - 06/02/23 09:47 AM (7 months, 24 days ago)

Apologies for the confusion. What I meant was that I noticed a fluffy overlay, which I now understand is the mycelium, on the mushrooms. Initially, I removed it, but now I'm uncertain if it was the right decision. Should the mycelium have been left intact, or was it appropriate to remove it? I would appreciate your insights on this matter.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Inocuole] * 4
    #28344263 - 06/02/23 09:58 AM (7 months, 24 days ago)

If it was just fuzzy mycelium on the stipe that’s perfectly fine to leave on. The bruising on the mushrooms after you removed it is perfectly normal as well.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Smellyhobbit]
    #28344503 - 06/02/23 01:49 PM (7 months, 24 days ago)

I was going over this some more, you think the lack of second flush is due to the bacteria weakening the mycelium or due to the lack of substrate/water? Both?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: altford78]
    #28344727 - 06/02/23 05:37 PM (7 months, 24 days ago)

Both, mostly lack of water, rehydrsting helps somewhat but you can almost never get a sub to soak uo as much as it has lost


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: AyePlus] * 1
    #28345502 - 06/03/23 09:31 AM (7 months, 23 days ago)

I made some coir substrate by multiplying my coir weight in grams by 4.5. the result was my water weight in grams. 325 g coir x 4.5 = 1462.5 grams of water. My field capacity was almost spot on as a result. I ended up throwing a hand full of vermiculite in to give me slightly under field capacity substrate.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: sprocket] * 3
    #28345533 - 06/03/23 10:16 AM (7 months, 23 days ago)

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I ended up throwing a hand full of vermiculite in to give me slightly under field capacity substrate.




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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: AyePlus]
    #28345539 - 06/03/23 10:20 AM (7 months, 23 days ago)

Thanks, will try 1:2 and report back. Technically some of those jars are ready to go now, but I'll give them a couple more days. Cooking some coir now, probably spawn them tomorrow or Monday.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Nonagon] * 3
    #28345540 - 06/03/23 10:22 AM (7 months, 23 days ago)

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I ended up throwing a hand full of vermiculite in to give me slightly under field capacity substrate.




Please tell me you baked it




Absolutely, at 400 degrees for 12 hours then I ran it a second time to make sure 😁


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: sprocket] * 3
    #28345721 - 06/03/23 12:28 PM (7 months, 23 days ago)

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    #28345746 - 06/03/23 12:47 PM (7 months, 23 days ago)

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I ended up throwing a hand full of vermiculite in to give me slightly under field capacity substrate.




Please tell me you baked it




Absolutely, at 400 degrees for 12 hours then I ran it a second time to make sure 😁




Careful. If you’re not using one of these, your verm could harbor dangerous mold spores.



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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: RoscoeReturns] * 1
    #28345770 - 06/03/23 01:16 PM (7 months, 23 days ago)

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I ended up throwing a hand full of vermiculite in to give me slightly under field capacity substrate.




Please tell me you baked it




Absolutely, at 400 degrees for 12 hours then I ran it a second time to make sure 😁




Careful. If you’re not using one of these, your verm could harbor dangerous mold spores.






I've heard about that so I soaked the vermiculite in bleach and Lysol before baking, I also used a UV light out of an abundance of caution.


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