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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Way]
    #28332767 - 05/24/23 02:53 PM (8 months, 2 days ago)

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Brother I’ve never said this the entire time I’ve been here, but I don’t think I believe you at all.




Can I ask why? Genuinely confused. I've noticed no difference in pinset or yield between 1:1 and 1:4. Just growth speeds.




I would get full canopies but they didn’t grow consistently at 1:2 and 1:3. Was so weird. Half would mature then the other half.

After I switched to 1:1 I got consistent growth across the whole cake


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Lefty68W] * 7
    #28332768 - 05/24/23 02:54 PM (8 months, 2 days ago)

Maybe your sub is too dry? Did you try misting it?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Yahra]
    #28332770 - 05/24/23 02:55 PM (8 months, 2 days ago)

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Mabe your sub is too dry? Did you try misting it?




No need I figured it out. 😂

This is one of those tubs. Notice it’s a full canopy but one side was slower to mature

At 1:1 it grew consistently as a full canopy and matured at the same time



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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Yahra] * 3
    #28332771 - 05/24/23 02:56 PM (8 months, 2 days ago)

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Mabe your sub is too dry? Did you try misting it?




I bet misting it is the answer


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: rumfor69]
    #28332773 - 05/24/23 02:58 PM (8 months, 2 days ago)

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Yahra said:
Mabe your sub is too dry? Did you try misting it?




I bet misting it is the answer




Nope moved to 1:1. Always misted the walls and lid


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Way] * 1
    #28332777 - 05/24/23 02:59 PM (8 months, 2 days ago)

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Way said:
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Smellyhobbit said:
Brother I’ve never said this the entire time I’ve been here, but I don’t think I believe you at all.




Can I ask why? Genuinely confused. I've noticed no difference in pinset or yield between 1:1 and 1:4. Just growth speeds.



I was under the impression a 1:1 ratio wouldn’t have the water in it to support a full canopy. I definitely have cultures in my library that would abort most pins at 1:1 and then give me some healthy fruit, but not canopy.

Besides that, when I was running 1:1 a year ago I never ever got a second flush out of them. Then again, I was doing like 75% of things wrong then.

Do we have anybody here that uses a 1:1 with gold results? If it doesn’t matter, why do any of us use more than that?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: rumfor69]
    #28332778 - 05/24/23 02:59 PM (8 months, 2 days ago)

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Are you my dad!?




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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: rumfor69] * 2
    #28332782 - 05/24/23 03:01 PM (8 months, 2 days ago)

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The water surface area across the bottom of the water tub evaporates more efficiently




I would guess that because of the depth of the water in the bottom, it'd evaporate slower which may = more efficient? Overall humidity % would seem to go to the greater surface area of 4 walls and a lid though.

Lefty, if I may offer advice, start your posts with "this is how I...." Then you offer yourself and techniques as a data point, not a recommendation. I do so many "outdated or incorrect" cult related things that I should do a post on it just for laughs! By the same token, many new/proper teks would not work for me in my environment with my time constraints. I could never unlatch or flip my lids, I'd come back to a sleeping cat inside or glitter sprinkled on it, definitely mean green at the least!

A member here mentioned something like, 'if you see someone growing huge canopies, ask them how they did it, whether TC or not'.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Smellyhobbit] * 2
    #28332789 - 05/24/23 03:03 PM (8 months, 2 days ago)

Quote:

Smellyhobbit said:
Quote:

Way said:
Quote:

Smellyhobbit said:
Brother I’ve never said this the entire time I’ve been here, but I don’t think I believe you at all.




Can I ask why? Genuinely confused. I've noticed no difference in pinset or yield between 1:1 and 1:4. Just growth speeds.



I was under the impression a 1:1 ratio wouldn’t have the water in it to support a full canopy. I definitely have cultures in my library that would abort most pins at 1:1 and then give me some healthy fruit, but not canopy.

Besides that, when I was running 1:1 a year ago I never ever got a second flush out of them. Then again, I was doing like 75% of things wrong then.

Do we have anybody here that uses a 1:1 with gold results? If it doesn’t matter, why do any of us use more than that?




Here is one of my current tubs.

This was flush 1



This was flush 2 I harvested this past weekend



Flush 3 looks to be a handful of big shrooms.  Then tossing the cake


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: YoshiTrainer] * 3
    #28332791 - 05/24/23 03:04 PM (8 months, 2 days ago)

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YoshiTrainer said:
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rumfor69 said:
The water surface area across the bottom of the water tub evaporates more efficiently




I would guess that because of the depth of the water in the bottom, it'd evaporate slower which may = more efficient? Overall humidity % would seem to go to the greater surface area of 4 walls and a lid though.

Lefty, if I may offer advice, start your posts with "this is how I...." Then you offer yourself and techniques as a data point, not a recommendation. I do so many "outdated or incorrect" cult related things that I should do a post on it just for laughs! By the same token, many new/proper teks would not work for me in my environment with my time constraints. I could never unlatch or flip my lids, I'd come back to a sleeping cat inside or glitter sprinkled on it, definitely mean green at the least!

A member here mentioned something like, 'if you see someone growing huge canopies, ask them how they did it, whether TC or not'.



A water tub is to offset for having a larger fruiting chamber then necessary/to much fae. Thats why we dont put monotubs in water tubs


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: milkboy] * 2
    #28332795 - 05/24/23 03:06 PM (8 months, 2 days ago)

IF you put a monotub in a water tub and then in a SGFC....would you mist the sides and lid?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: rumfor69]
    #28332798 - 05/24/23 03:08 PM (8 months, 2 days ago)

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IF you put a monotub in a water tub and then in a SGFC....would you mist the sides and lid?



I wouldn’t. Water tub does the job that misting the walls and lid in a monotub does.

So that would then be over misting. I know it’s very complex


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Lefty68W] * 6
    #28332800 - 05/24/23 03:09 PM (8 months, 2 days ago)

:bubbles:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Inocuole] * 1
    #28332806 - 05/24/23 03:11 PM (8 months, 2 days ago)

I would.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Smellyhobbit] * 1
    #28332808 - 05/24/23 03:11 PM (8 months, 2 days ago)

Quote:

Smellyhobbit said:
Quote:

Way said:
Quote:

Smellyhobbit said:
Brother I’ve never said this the entire time I’ve been here, but I don’t think I believe you at all.




Can I ask why? Genuinely confused. I've noticed no difference in pinset or yield between 1:1 and 1:4. Just growth speeds.



I was under the impression a 1:1 ratio wouldn’t have the water in it to support a full canopy. I definitely have cultures in my library that would abort most pins at 1:1 and then give me some healthy fruit, but not canopy.

Besides that, when I was running 1:1 a year ago I never ever got a second flush out of them. Then again, I was doing like 75% of things wrong then.

Do we have anybody here that uses a 1:1 with gold results? If it doesn’t matter, why do any of us use more than that?




Ah. I've had a really nice canopy with 1:1 before but there definitely wasn't enough water in the sub to support the flush completely. I had to bottom water it before I harvested the first flush. That's why I went with thicker subs. And to be fair, I switched from 1:1 real fast after that. Was one of my first grows as well.

I usually go over 1:3 now so I haven't gone back to visit 1:1.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: HILLBILLY OUTLAW] * 1
    #28332811 - 05/24/23 03:12 PM (8 months, 2 days ago)

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I would.



I do


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: HILLBILLY OUTLAW] * 2
    #28332812 - 05/24/23 03:13 PM (8 months, 2 days ago)

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I would.




Right!? I mean when you have your ultrasonic humidifier ported to the SGFC and your fish tank stones in the water tub then the montub in-between them will definitely need at least the lid misted.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Way]
    #28332815 - 05/24/23 03:14 PM (8 months, 2 days ago)

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Way said:
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Smellyhobbit said:
Quote:

Way said:
Quote:

Smellyhobbit said:
Brother I’ve never said this the entire time I’ve been here, but I don’t think I believe you at all.




Can I ask why? Genuinely confused. I've noticed no difference in pinset or yield between 1:1 and 1:4. Just growth speeds.



I was under the impression a 1:1 ratio wouldn’t have the water in it to support a full canopy. I definitely have cultures in my library that would abort most pins at 1:1 and then give me some healthy fruit, but not canopy.

Besides that, when I was running 1:1 a year ago I never ever got a second flush out of them. Then again, I was doing like 75% of things wrong then.

Do we have anybody here that uses a 1:1 with gold results? If it doesn’t matter, why do any of us use more than that?




Ah. I've had a really nice canopy with 1:1 before but there definitely wasn't enough water in the sub to support the flush completely. I had to bottom water it before I harvested the first flush. That's why I went with thicker subs. And to be fair, I switched from 1:1 real fast after that. Was one of my first grows as well.

I usually go over 1:3 now so I haven't gone back to visit 1:1.




All I have run for awhile now is 1:1. Never had to bottom water had any issues with it completing a full canopy flush. After I tested it out I loved  the results so much I decided to do all my grows at 1:1.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: rumfor69] * 1
    #28332821 - 05/24/23 03:17 PM (8 months, 2 days ago)

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rumfor69
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rumfor69 said:
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HILLBILLY OUTLAW said:
I would.




Right!? I mean when you have your ultrasonic humidifier ported to the SGFC and your fish tank stones in the water tub then the montub in-between them will definitely need at least the lid misted.




Of course. On the outsides.

Unless all of the above is in a martha.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Lefty68W]
    #28332826 - 05/24/23 03:19 PM (8 months, 2 days ago)

Must be all the misting of the walls. Adding water back into the sub when gravity does it's work. :laugh:

Bottom watering without bottom watering.


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