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Lefty68W
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Way]
#28332767 - 05/24/23 02:53 PM (8 months, 2 days ago) |
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Way said:
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Smellyhobbit said: Brother I’ve never said this the entire time I’ve been here, but I don’t think I believe you at all.
Can I ask why? Genuinely confused. I've noticed no difference in pinset or yield between 1:1 and 1:4. Just growth speeds.
I would get full canopies but they didn’t grow consistently at 1:2 and 1:3. Was so weird. Half would mature then the other half.
After I switched to 1:1 I got consistent growth across the whole cake
Edited by Lefty68W (05/24/23 02:54 PM)
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Lefty68W] 7
#28332768 - 05/24/23 02:54 PM (8 months, 2 days ago) |
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Maybe your sub is too dry? Did you try misting it?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Yahra]
#28332770 - 05/24/23 02:55 PM (8 months, 2 days ago) |
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Yahra said: Mabe your sub is too dry? Did you try misting it?
No need I figured it out. 😂
This is one of those tubs. Notice it’s a full canopy but one side was slower to mature
At 1:1 it grew consistently as a full canopy and matured at the same time
Edited by Lefty68W (05/24/23 02:57 PM)
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Yahra] 3
#28332771 - 05/24/23 02:56 PM (8 months, 2 days ago) |
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Yahra said: Mabe your sub is too dry? Did you try misting it?
I bet misting it is the answer
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Lefty68W
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: rumfor69]
#28332773 - 05/24/23 02:58 PM (8 months, 2 days ago) |
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Yahra said: Mabe your sub is too dry? Did you try misting it?
I bet misting it is the answer
Nope moved to 1:1. Always misted the walls and lid
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Way] 1
#28332777 - 05/24/23 02:59 PM (8 months, 2 days ago) |
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Way said:
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Smellyhobbit said: Brother I’ve never said this the entire time I’ve been here, but I don’t think I believe you at all.
Can I ask why? Genuinely confused. I've noticed no difference in pinset or yield between 1:1 and 1:4. Just growth speeds.
I was under the impression a 1:1 ratio wouldn’t have the water in it to support a full canopy. I definitely have cultures in my library that would abort most pins at 1:1 and then give me some healthy fruit, but not canopy.
Besides that, when I was running 1:1 a year ago I never ever got a second flush out of them. Then again, I was doing like 75% of things wrong then.
Do we have anybody here that uses a 1:1 with gold results? If it doesn’t matter, why do any of us use more than that?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: rumfor69]
#28332778 - 05/24/23 02:59 PM (8 months, 2 days ago) |
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: rumfor69] 2
#28332782 - 05/24/23 03:01 PM (8 months, 2 days ago) |
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rumfor69 said: The water surface area across the bottom of the water tub evaporates more efficiently
I would guess that because of the depth of the water in the bottom, it'd evaporate slower which may = more efficient? Overall humidity % would seem to go to the greater surface area of 4 walls and a lid though.
Lefty, if I may offer advice, start your posts with "this is how I...." Then you offer yourself and techniques as a data point, not a recommendation. I do so many "outdated or incorrect" cult related things that I should do a post on it just for laughs! By the same token, many new/proper teks would not work for me in my environment with my time constraints. I could never unlatch or flip my lids, I'd come back to a sleeping cat inside or glitter sprinkled on it, definitely mean green at the least!
A member here mentioned something like, 'if you see someone growing huge canopies, ask them how they did it, whether TC or not'.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Smellyhobbit] 2
#28332789 - 05/24/23 03:03 PM (8 months, 2 days ago) |
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Smellyhobbit said:
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Way said:
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Smellyhobbit said: Brother I’ve never said this the entire time I’ve been here, but I don’t think I believe you at all.
Can I ask why? Genuinely confused. I've noticed no difference in pinset or yield between 1:1 and 1:4. Just growth speeds.
I was under the impression a 1:1 ratio wouldn’t have the water in it to support a full canopy. I definitely have cultures in my library that would abort most pins at 1:1 and then give me some healthy fruit, but not canopy.
Besides that, when I was running 1:1 a year ago I never ever got a second flush out of them. Then again, I was doing like 75% of things wrong then.
Do we have anybody here that uses a 1:1 with gold results? If it doesn’t matter, why do any of us use more than that?
Here is one of my current tubs.
This was flush 1

This was flush 2 I harvested this past weekend

Flush 3 looks to be a handful of big shrooms. Then tossing the cake
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: YoshiTrainer] 3
#28332791 - 05/24/23 03:04 PM (8 months, 2 days ago) |
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rumfor69 said: The water surface area across the bottom of the water tub evaporates more efficiently
I would guess that because of the depth of the water in the bottom, it'd evaporate slower which may = more efficient? Overall humidity % would seem to go to the greater surface area of 4 walls and a lid though.
Lefty, if I may offer advice, start your posts with "this is how I...." Then you offer yourself and techniques as a data point, not a recommendation. I do so many "outdated or incorrect" cult related things that I should do a post on it just for laughs! By the same token, many new/proper teks would not work for me in my environment with my time constraints. I could never unlatch or flip my lids, I'd come back to a sleeping cat inside or glitter sprinkled on it, definitely mean green at the least!
A member here mentioned something like, 'if you see someone growing huge canopies, ask them how they did it, whether TC or not'.
A water tub is to offset for having a larger fruiting chamber then necessary/to much fae. Thats why we dont put monotubs in water tubs
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: milkboy] 2
#28332795 - 05/24/23 03:06 PM (8 months, 2 days ago) |
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IF you put a monotub in a water tub and then in a SGFC....would you mist the sides and lid?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: rumfor69]
#28332798 - 05/24/23 03:08 PM (8 months, 2 days ago) |
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rumfor69 said: IF you put a monotub in a water tub and then in a SGFC....would you mist the sides and lid?
I wouldn’t. Water tub does the job that misting the walls and lid in a monotub does.
So that would then be over misting. I know it’s very complex
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Lefty68W] 6
#28332800 - 05/24/23 03:09 PM (8 months, 2 days ago) |
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Inocuole] 1
#28332806 - 05/24/23 03:11 PM (8 months, 2 days ago) |
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I would.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Smellyhobbit] 1
#28332808 - 05/24/23 03:11 PM (8 months, 2 days ago) |
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Way said:
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Smellyhobbit said: Brother I’ve never said this the entire time I’ve been here, but I don’t think I believe you at all.
Can I ask why? Genuinely confused. I've noticed no difference in pinset or yield between 1:1 and 1:4. Just growth speeds.
I was under the impression a 1:1 ratio wouldn’t have the water in it to support a full canopy. I definitely have cultures in my library that would abort most pins at 1:1 and then give me some healthy fruit, but not canopy.
Besides that, when I was running 1:1 a year ago I never ever got a second flush out of them. Then again, I was doing like 75% of things wrong then.
Do we have anybody here that uses a 1:1 with gold results? If it doesn’t matter, why do any of us use more than that?
Ah. I've had a really nice canopy with 1:1 before but there definitely wasn't enough water in the sub to support the flush completely. I had to bottom water it before I harvested the first flush. That's why I went with thicker subs. And to be fair, I switched from 1:1 real fast after that. Was one of my first grows as well.
I usually go over 1:3 now so I haven't gone back to visit 1:1.
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HILLBILLY OUTLAW said: I would.
I do
Edited by Smellyhobbit (05/24/23 03:22 PM)
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HILLBILLY OUTLAW said: I would.
Right!? I mean when you have your ultrasonic humidifier ported to the SGFC and your fish tank stones in the water tub then the montub in-between them will definitely need at least the lid misted.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Way]
#28332815 - 05/24/23 03:14 PM (8 months, 2 days ago) |
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Way said:
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Smellyhobbit said:
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Way said:
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Smellyhobbit said: Brother I’ve never said this the entire time I’ve been here, but I don’t think I believe you at all.
Can I ask why? Genuinely confused. I've noticed no difference in pinset or yield between 1:1 and 1:4. Just growth speeds.
I was under the impression a 1:1 ratio wouldn’t have the water in it to support a full canopy. I definitely have cultures in my library that would abort most pins at 1:1 and then give me some healthy fruit, but not canopy.
Besides that, when I was running 1:1 a year ago I never ever got a second flush out of them. Then again, I was doing like 75% of things wrong then.
Do we have anybody here that uses a 1:1 with gold results? If it doesn’t matter, why do any of us use more than that?
Ah. I've had a really nice canopy with 1:1 before but there definitely wasn't enough water in the sub to support the flush completely. I had to bottom water it before I harvested the first flush. That's why I went with thicker subs. And to be fair, I switched from 1:1 real fast after that. Was one of my first grows as well.
I usually go over 1:3 now so I haven't gone back to visit 1:1.
All I have run for awhile now is 1:1. Never had to bottom water had any issues with it completing a full canopy flush. After I tested it out I loved the results so much I decided to do all my grows at 1:1.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: rumfor69] 1
#28332821 - 05/24/23 03:17 PM (8 months, 2 days ago) |
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HILLBILLY OUTLAW said: I would.
Right!? I mean when you have your ultrasonic humidifier ported to the SGFC and your fish tank stones in the water tub then the montub in-between them will definitely need at least the lid misted.
Of course. On the outsides.
Unless all of the above is in a martha.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Lefty68W]
#28332826 - 05/24/23 03:19 PM (8 months, 2 days ago) |
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Must be all the misting of the walls. Adding water back into the sub when gravity does it's work. 
Bottom watering without bottom watering.
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