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ReverendMyc

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: chris77] 6
#28315878 - 05/11/23 02:24 PM (8 months, 15 days ago) |
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Here, you must understand that air is not stratified into various gases with the densest and heaviest gas at the bottom, while the least dense and lightest gas at the top. If this was the case you would not be able to breathe oxygen.
Actually, air exists in the form of a homogeneous mixture of gases owing to the various physical forces of the atmosphere acting on it and also due to the energy of different gas molecules.
The regular movement of the collision of molecules amongst themselves does not let the heavier molecules sink or the lighter ones rise high. Hence, stratification of different gases does not occur in the air.
Although, if pure concentrated carbon dioxide is present in a completely undisturbed environment, with stagnant molecules, it will definitely sink in the air. However, it is an ideal condition that does not occur in nature...
As explained in the previous section stratification of gases does not occur in the air. It is due to the fact that the gas molecules remain in continuous motion due to which they keep colliding and mixing with each other.
Owing to regular collisions and movements the gas molecules change their trajectories so fast that it becomes almost impossible for the gravitation forces to act on the gas molecules in the natural environment.
therefore, as soon as CO2 is released in the atmosphere as a product of any process it gets intermixed with various gases in the atmosphere after which it is not possible for the carbon dioxide molecules to settle down in the atmosphere. This is also known as the diffusion of gases.
Smelling the cigarette smoke while standing away from the smoker, being able to recognize someone based on their fragrance from distance, or feeling hungry by smelling tasty food while passing by a restaurant are examples of diffusion...
- Is CO2 Heavier Than Air? β Explanation
You cannot compare a closed shoebox with the always turbulent atmosphere.. Can you?
I love these discussions and that is what this thread is about, but I won't engage in the vitriol. Don't take that as an accusation to anyone. Just explaining why you won't see negative comments from me towards anyone.
I would like to respond to your question here though. I believe that you can compare the shoebox to to a larger body of air. The shoebox and other unmodified mono-tubs are not still air boxes for a few reasons.
- The moisture in the substrate is evaporating
- The myclium is producing heat
- The fungus is producing CO2
- The tubs are generally not air tight. Although the click-lock tupperware one mentioned and pictured earlier actually is pretty air tight
A link from an earlier post in this topic also pointed out that there is visual evidence that the air is not still in the way that spores distribute all over the tub, on the caps of the top fruits, and even on the lids and rims of tubs. Since spores are certainly heavier than air and CO2, they should fall in a still air environment but they do not. They get tossed about and they are thousands of times more "heavy" than CO2 molecules.
I don't have a horse in this race. I do make changes in my tub configuration through out the life cycle for some exotics because it works. I am not claiming that I know the chemistry, physics and biological reasons for why it works, just that it does work in my experience. I like to call my hobby mycology to sound fancy, but really it is closer to farming. Some trial and error, some comparison testing, a lot of reading and a fair amount of luck. It is science of a sort, but it is difficult to prove anything doing what we do.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: ReverendMyc]
#28315894 - 05/11/23 02:33 PM (8 months, 15 days ago) |
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I love these discussions and that is what this thread is about, but I won't engage in the vitriol. Don't take that as an accusation to anyone. Just explaining why you won't see negative comments from me towards anyone.
I would like to respond to your question here though. I believe that you can compare the shoebox to to a larger body of air. The shoebox and other unmodified mono-tubs are not still air boxes for a few reasons.
- The moisture in the substrate is evaporating
- The myclium is producing heat
- The fungus is producing CO2
- The tubs are generally not air tight. Although the click-lock tupperware one mentioned and pictured earlier actually is pretty air tight
A link from an earlier post in this topic also pointed out that there is visual evidence that the air is not still in the way that spores distribute all over the tub, on the caps of the top fruits, and even on the lids and rims of tubs. Since spores are certainly heavier than air and CO2, they should fall in a still air environment but they do not. They get tossed about and they are thousands of times more "heavy" than CO2 molecules.
I don't have a horse in this race. I do make changes in my tub configuration through out the life cycle for some exotics because it works. I am not claiming that I know the chemistry, physics and biological reasons for why it works, just that it does work in my experience. I like to call my hobby mycology to sound fancy, but really it is closer to farming. Some trial and error, some comparison testing, a lot of reading and a fair amount of luck. It is science of a sort, but it is difficult to prove anything doing what we do.
Nicely said. cheers
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: SirPsycho] 4
#28315903 - 05/11/23 02:36 PM (8 months, 15 days ago) |
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: ReverendMyc]
#28315905 - 05/11/23 02:37 PM (8 months, 15 days ago) |
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Well put. Thank you.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: SirPsycho] 4
#28315910 - 05/11/23 02:39 PM (8 months, 15 days ago) |
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Mr Piggy] 2
#28315919 - 05/11/23 02:42 PM (8 months, 15 days ago) |
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Farmers can be fancy sorry to kid around π¬
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That was a great read.
...so am i putting a fucking lid on these shoeboxes or not?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: stockw] 7
#28315957 - 05/11/23 03:06 PM (8 months, 15 days ago) |
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You must become the lid
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy] 1
#28315959 - 05/11/23 03:09 PM (8 months, 15 days ago) |
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Very Zen.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Mr Piggy] 2
#28315960 - 05/11/23 03:12 PM (8 months, 15 days ago) |
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: SirPsycho]
#28316027 - 05/11/23 04:04 PM (8 months, 15 days ago) |
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i am just wondering.. a user can call another "prick", give him a negative rating, block him and get away with it, continue his life here as if nothing had happened? is that so? just curious
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: chris77] 9
#28316044 - 05/11/23 04:18 PM (8 months, 15 days ago) |
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chris77 said: i am just wondering.. a user can call another "prick", give him a negative rating, block him and get away with it, continue his life here as if nothing had happened? is that so? just curious
Pretty sure that's what the rating system and block feature are for. As for being called a pick, you can't possibly expect moderator action everytime a bad word is said. This is a forum abou producing illegal drugs and its restricted to adults. Big boy pants on.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: SirPsycho] 10
#28316050 - 05/11/23 04:27 PM (8 months, 15 days ago) |
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chris77 said: i am just wondering.. a user can call another "prick", give him a negative rating, block him and get away with it, continue his life here as if nothing had happened? is that so? just curious
Pretty sure that's what the rating system and block feature are for. As for being called a pick, you can't possibly expect moderator action everytime a bad word is said. This is a forum abou producing illegal drugs and its restricted to adults. Big boy pants on.
Wait. We have to wear pants?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: RoscoeReturns] 2
#28316053 - 05/11/23 04:29 PM (8 months, 15 days ago) |
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Only metaphorical pants
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: chris77] 5
#28316064 - 05/11/23 04:39 PM (8 months, 15 days ago) |
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chris77 said: i am just wondering.. a user can call another "prick", give him a negative rating, block him and get away with it, continue his life here as if nothing had happened? is that so? just curious
I've had worse said to me on here several times and had mods do nothing.
Generally mods take action here only if someone is spamming or selling drugs (or spamming to sell drugs).
Mods also take action when someone does something approaching doxing (like posting someone else's private message on the public board) or if someone is using sockpuppets, which mods can easily detect.
The only other times I remember seeing mods take action is when someone creates a disturbance for several pages, which you did.
I think everyone was amused enough with it to let it slide, but I'm not sure how many more pages it would slide.
It's OK to be wrong here. We've all done it.
It's not OK to be wrong, scream that your wrong outdated grow tek is right, scream it to people who have better shroom grows than you, and make a 5-page holy war out of it.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: nektar61] 6
#28316066 - 05/11/23 04:41 PM (8 months, 15 days ago) |
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nektar61 said: make a 5-page holy war out of it.
Yeah, that's my job.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: SirPsycho] 4
#28316073 - 05/11/23 04:46 PM (8 months, 15 days ago) |
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As for being called a pick, you can't possibly expect moderator action everytime a bad word is said.
In some areas of the Shroomery, name calling (called "flaming") is not allowed, and you can have your post deleted and receive a warning. I think different subforums and various mods deal with it in different ways.
I suspect flaming in the cultivation area is less an issue than in the politics forum, where the shit really flies sometimes. Lots of dung being slung down there.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: RJ Tubs 202] 1
#28316083 - 05/11/23 04:52 PM (8 months, 15 days ago) |
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As for being called a pick, you can't possibly expect moderator action everytime a bad word is said.
In some areas of the Shroomery, name calling (called "flaming") is not allowed, and you can have your post deleted and receive a warning. I think different subforums and various mods deal with it in different ways.
I suspect flaming in the cultivation area is less an issue than in the politics forum, where the shit really flies sometimes. Lots of dung being slung down there.
Right, it isn't allowed. The rules do not say that it will result in a ban, they say to take it elsewhere.
They did receive a warning, everyone involved, and were asked to take it elsewhere. Which seems to have happened.
I was referring more to a mute or a ban, as I'm sure Chris was in this question about those that call people names being allowed to continue on here.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Inocuole] 5
#28316085 - 05/11/23 04:53 PM (8 months, 15 days ago) |
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RJ Tubs 202 said: In some areas of the Shroomery, name calling (called "flaming") is not allowed, and you can have your post deleted and receive a warning. I think different subforums and various mods deal with it in different ways.
It's allowed on OTD and the Pub. It's not allowed on grow forums, but isn't usually enforced.
chris77 especially can't expect the 1 mod active on this thread right now to take action when chris77 was arguing with that mod.
Especially when that mod is a TC, an OG, and one of the top growers here, and chris77 was basically telling that TC OG mod that he doesn't know how to grow.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: nektar61] 6
#28316175 - 05/11/23 06:08 PM (8 months, 15 days ago) |
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..... Sooooo today in other newz
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"An analysis published in an American Medical Association journal last year concluded that a majority of states will legalize psychedelics by 2037, based on statistical modeling of policy trends."
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