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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: chris77]
    #28315618 - 05/11/23 10:55 AM (8 months, 15 days ago)

How tight?

The plastic lids warp and bend and do not form perfect seals for suffocation reasons especially on larger totes.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy] * 1
    #28315623 - 05/11/23 11:00 AM (8 months, 15 days ago)

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How tight?

The plastic lids warp and bend and do not form perfect seals for suffocation reasons.




not perfect seals no.

maybe i shouldn't have started this debate without measured results or valid comparisons. didn't know it would stir up all that.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: chris77] * 6
    #28315627 - 05/11/23 11:03 AM (8 months, 15 days ago)

I enjoy the dialog:popcorn:

Even if I stumble and fuck up.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: chris77] * 1
    #28315628 - 05/11/23 11:04 AM (8 months, 15 days ago)

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mushboy said:
After rereading that exchange at no point did I say it was a myth.

I said this

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Co2 doesn’t sink in tubs it diffuses with air if co2 sank like that we would die if we went into a ditch.





That is NOT the same as me saying co2 doesn’t sink. End of topic.

I said in tubs and I said sink like that.

Maybe my written skills are terrible but I do not think most people would take what I said as a blanket statement of co2 doesn’t sink anywhere in nature.

I’ll choose my words better Nate but I think you missed the mark.



Correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe this is Mushboy’s point…

When I get dry ice in the mail, I always throw it in the sink with a bit of water for my daughter to play with the co2 vapor. It makes a dense fog that displaces all the air from the sink and is just about 100% co2 because it’s heavier than air. However, after the dry ice is gone, the co2 in the sink will diffuse and reach equilibrium with the rest of the air in the kitchen. This will happen even with the smallest amount of air exchange.

What mushboy is insinuating is perhaps that mycelium in a shoe box generates co2 at such a slow rate, that the shoe box will pretty much always be at equilibrium with the rest of the air in the room.



I dont know what kind of shoeboxes you are using, but mine are pretty tight when latched. i would be surprised if the gas inside would be mixed homogeneously.



I use The Container Store brand, 5.2qt I believe. I fill them with 7qt of spawn & substrate, so there’s barely any room at the top.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: San Pedro Girl] * 1
    #28315650 - 05/11/23 11:18 AM (8 months, 15 days ago)

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It's calibers wars in self defense discussions.



There’s no war, everyone knows .22 is best.
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9mm polymer striker fired, also proven thousands of times over.
.45 is for your retarded racist uncle.



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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: chris77] * 2
    #28315672 - 05/11/23 11:48 AM (8 months, 15 days ago)

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Here, you must understand that air is not stratified into various gases with the densest and heaviest gas at the bottom, while the least dense and lightest gas at the top. If this was the case you would not be able to breathe oxygen.

Actually, air exists in the form of a homogeneous mixture of gases owing to the various physical forces of the atmosphere acting on it and also due to the energy of different gas molecules.

The regular movement of the collision of molecules amongst themselves does not let the heavier molecules sink or the lighter ones rise high. Hence, stratification of different gases does not occur in the air.

Although, if pure concentrated carbon dioxide is present in a completely undisturbed environment, with stagnant molecules, it will definitely sink in the air. However, it is an ideal condition that does not occur in nature...

As explained in the previous section stratification of gases does not occur in the air. It is due to the fact that the gas molecules remain in continuous motion due to which they keep colliding and mixing with each other.

Owing to regular collisions and movements the gas molecules change their trajectories so fast that it becomes almost impossible for the gravitation forces to act on the gas molecules in the natural environment.

therefore, as soon as CO2 is released in the atmosphere as a product of any process it gets intermixed with various gases in the atmosphere after which it is not possible for the carbon dioxide molecules to settle down in the atmosphere. This is also known as the diffusion of gases.

Smelling the cigarette smoke while standing away from the smoker, being able to recognize someone based on their fragrance from distance, or feeling hungry by smelling tasty food while passing by a restaurant are examples of diffusion...




- Is CO2 Heavier Than Air? — Explanation


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: chris77] * 2
    #28315722 - 05/11/23 12:13 PM (8 months, 15 days ago)

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Mr Piggy said:
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natedawgnow said:
Ah i thought you were saying co2 doesnt have an effect on cubes in general. It certainly does but probably not in aiding colonization. Although in nature co2 levels are higher where mycelium is growing (under cow shit or leaf litter) and they grow towards areas of lower co2 so i can easily see how that idea was formed.




:nodofunderstanding:




when you have finished nodding your way up his behind i woukd like to tell you that I don't appreciate your attitude towards my statement.

your way of entering this debate is the precise reason why things degenerate in such places, and in society in general. and this doesnt have anything to do with how i feel about it. I actually don't care and if you would have taken time to read i have assumed fully that i cant prove shit, and that i also don't mind to be wrong.

but one thing for sure, your kind of attitude doesn't help.

as you can see from natedawgnow's response its not such a clear case as you want to make believe. so cool your jets a bit. would do you good.





Don't forget to wear a bib when you eat my whole ass raw.

:biden:

You are wrong, and how you feel doesn't matter.

All that matters is good cultivation and correct advice.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Mr Piggy]
    #28315762 - 05/11/23 12:41 PM (8 months, 15 days ago)

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Mr Piggy said:

Don't forget to wear a bib when you eat my whole ass raw.

:biden:

You are wrong, and how you feel doesn't matter.

All that matters is good cultivation and correct advice.





You haven't got the faintest idea what matters.
But then again, aren't  we all limited in one way or the other?

nevermind :smile:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: johnukguy]
    #28315765 - 05/11/23 12:44 PM (8 months, 15 days ago)

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Quote:

Here, you must understand that air is not stratified into various gases with the densest and heaviest gas at the bottom, while the least dense and lightest gas at the top. If this was the case you would not be able to breathe oxygen.

Actually, air exists in the form of a homogeneous mixture of gases owing to the various physical forces of the atmosphere acting on it and also due to the energy of different gas molecules.

The regular movement of the collision of molecules amongst themselves does not let the heavier molecules sink or the lighter ones rise high. Hence, stratification of different gases does not occur in the air.

Although, if pure concentrated carbon dioxide is present in a completely undisturbed environment, with stagnant molecules, it will definitely sink in the air. However, it is an ideal condition that does not occur in nature...

As explained in the previous section stratification of gases does not occur in the air. It is due to the fact that the gas molecules remain in continuous motion due to which they keep colliding and mixing with each other.

Owing to regular collisions and movements the gas molecules change their trajectories so fast that it becomes almost impossible for the gravitation forces to act on the gas molecules in the natural environment.

therefore, as soon as CO2 is released in the atmosphere as a product of any process it gets intermixed with various gases in the atmosphere after which it is not possible for the carbon dioxide molecules to settle down in the atmosphere. This is also known as the diffusion of gases.

Smelling the cigarette smoke while standing away from the smoker, being able to recognize someone based on their fragrance from distance, or feeling hungry by smelling tasty food while passing by a restaurant are examples of diffusion...




- Is CO2 Heavier Than Air? — Explanation



You cannot compare a closed shoebox with the always turbulent atmosphere.. Can you?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: chris77] * 1
    #28315769 - 05/11/23 12:48 PM (8 months, 15 days ago)

Of course you can, since the shoebox isn't in a vacuum, or like a wine bottle, which is one often used example. The air doesn't have to be turbulent as such, just normal air, which is present in a shoebox, unless it's completely airtight and sealed with little to no air in it at all. As the article makes clear:

Quote:

...also due to the energy of different gas molecules.

The regular movement of the collision of molecules amongst themselves does not let the heavier molecules sink or the lighter ones rise high. Hence, stratification of different gases does not occur in the air.




Note 'regular movement of the collision of molecules amongst themeselves.' It's not just a matter of high air turbulence.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: chris77] * 3
    #28315774 - 05/11/23 12:51 PM (8 months, 15 days ago)

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Mr Piggy said:

Don't forget to wear a bib when you eat my whole ass raw.

:biden:

You are wrong, and how you feel doesn't matter.

All that matters is good cultivation and correct advice.





You haven't got the faintest idea what matters.
But then again, aren't  we all limited in one way or the other?

nevermind :smile:





I know how to cultivate mushrooms and I also know people who double down on bad advice get five albinos.

I hate "nice" people who are actually just pricks and hide behind their "nice" attitude.

It's fake garbage, congrats on the block.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Mr Piggy]
    #28315789 - 05/11/23 01:04 PM (8 months, 15 days ago)

Quote:

Mr Piggy said:

Don't forget to wear a bib when you eat my whole ass raw.

:biden:

You are wrong, and how you feel doesn't matter.

All that matters is good cultivation and correct advice.





You haven't got the faintest idea what matters.
But then again, aren't  we all limited in one way or the other?

nevermind :smile:





I know how to cultivate mushrooms and I also know people who double down on bad advice get five albinos.

I hate "nice" people who are actually just pricks and hide behind their "nice" attitude.

It's fake garbage, congrats on the block.



Dude, you insulted me. i have got nothing against you, I don't know you. go back to the beginning of our dispute and see for yourself if it wasn't you who escalated here.
i am just not taking any shit from you, nor does it really bother me that you give me a negative rating and block me instantly.
kind of a poor behaviour to be honest.. get better soon!


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: chris77] * 4
    #28315808 - 05/11/23 01:26 PM (8 months, 15 days ago)

Can we all be respectful? I don’t feel like banning anyone.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy]
    #28315811 - 05/11/23 01:28 PM (8 months, 15 days ago)

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Can we all be respectful? I don’t feel like banning anyone.



well, i honestly dont think that i am to be banned here?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: chris77] * 7
    #28315814 - 05/11/23 01:31 PM (8 months, 15 days ago)

I wasn’t talking to anyone specifically just a friendly reminder that we are all adults.

Things get heated fouled language gets used. Just throwing it out there.

Everyone play nice :wave:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy]
    #28315841 - 05/11/23 01:53 PM (8 months, 15 days ago)

No worries, I used my anti "debate me" button and can no longer hear him.  We won't be sharing feelings anymore.

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: San Pedro Girl] * 1
    #28315842 - 05/11/23 01:55 PM (8 months, 15 days ago)

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CO2 doesn’t actually exist. It’s a myth like gravity.

There’s no war, everyone knows .22 is best.





And the Moon!  Can't believe people who think the moon landing was faked are such dupes that they'd believe in the moon.


I cannot argue, .22 is best :lol:

I stand corrected.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy]
    #28315845 - 05/11/23 02:00 PM (8 months, 15 days ago)

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After rereading that exchange at no point did I say it was a myth.

I said this

Quote:


Co2 doesn’t sink in tubs it diffuses with air if co2 sank like that we would die if we went into a ditch.





That is NOT the same as me saying co2 doesn’t sink. End of topic.

I said in tubs and I said sink like that.

Maybe my written skills are terrible but I do not think most people would take what I said as a blanket statement of co2 doesn’t sink anywhere in nature.

I’ll choose my words better Nate but I think you missed the mark.



Sorry in a later post you said rising and sinking co2 levels is an illusion, not myth. Ma bad.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Mr Piggy] * 2
    #28315871 - 05/11/23 02:20 PM (8 months, 15 days ago)

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Kunta Kente said:
Something like this?

(Influence of CO 2 Concentrationon the Mycelium Growth of Three Pleurotus Specie s)




Cubes are not oysters.

A member got banned for insisting on similar lines and not letting go of it.

RIP Featherer, posting psudoscience in the great cloud in the sky.



Ya, and he never posted a single picture of a grow. A lot of shit about nitrogen etc...probably about 60 pages worth.
RIP is being kind. Good riddance to bad rubbish.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: SeaSalt] * 10
    #28315875 - 05/11/23 02:23 PM (8 months, 15 days ago)



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