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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Smellyhobbit] * 1
    #28188739 - 02/15/23 01:41 PM (11 months, 7 days ago)

Hey I have a couple jars and was asking myself, whether I should do two smaller tubs with less substrate, maybe 2-3cm or one bigger one with 6cm depth. I kinda feel like, from experiences in the past, that bigger mycelium blocks where somehow stronger and contaminated less. Do you share that observation or was that a missattribution or something?

The benefits of splitting of course would be that if one contams, I only have to throw away one of the tubs and also that oxygen can get into the substrate better.
What do you think?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: polaritymind] * 1
    #28188746 - 02/15/23 01:45 PM (11 months, 7 days ago)

your spawn is clean or it isnโ€™t, bigger or smaller ratios donโ€™t really affect that in terms of being more or less contam prone. you just wanna make sure the sub has enough water to pull from for a proper flush, 2-4โ€ depth is generally good

spreading your spawn out does make it safer if you have jars youโ€™re not sure about but wanna spawn anyways.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Whyterye] * 2
    #28188783 - 02/15/23 02:11 PM (11 months, 7 days ago)

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Inocuole]
    #28188796 - 02/15/23 02:20 PM (11 months, 7 days ago)

Hi all.

I've shaked, for the second time (first time was around 25% colonization) my first jar when it was like in the picture below: 14 days have passed, and it never recovered, like it wasn't inoculated at all. I've searching it about and I guess that the cause is due to contamination, but damn, it even looked healthy. There's no more signs of life inside it, just plain grains.

Here's the picture just before the shake:



Should I just dump it?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Nerex]
    #28188806 - 02/15/23 02:25 PM (11 months, 7 days ago)

iโ€™ve had jars like that unfortunately /: it sucks when stuff looks promising. that jar looks a touch off to me, the way the grains are exposed on the glass reminds me of my jars that went bacterial. paired with the lack of recovery iโ€™d def say thereโ€™s something up in there


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Nerex]
    #28190053 - 02/16/23 10:38 AM (11 months, 6 days ago)

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Nerex said:
Hi all.

I've shaked, for the second time (first time was around 25% colonization) my first jar when it was like in the picture below: 14 days have passed, and it never recovered, like it wasn't inoculated at all. I've searching it about and I guess that the cause is due to contamination, but damn, it even looked healthy. There's no more signs of life inside it, just plain grains.

Here's the picture just before the shake:



Should I just dump it?




My cubes are quite sensitive to temperature. From 0-40% I keep them at 75f, then they start to build a little heat themselves, so I lower their room temp to 71f. They slow a lot if I go any lower than that.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tedoro]
    #28190262 - 02/16/23 01:38 PM (11 months, 6 days ago)

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My cubes are quite sensitive to temperature. From 0-40% I keep them at 75f, then they start to build a little heat themselves, so I lower their room temp to 71f. They slow a lot if I go any lower than that.




I was kind of hoping that the temperature may be the reason. I keep them at 71ยฐf in the night (when I'm at home, from 6 P.M. o'clock), but during the day the temperature goes down to 68ยฐF, I guess. I know it's a bit low for them, but they've managed to colonize a good part of the jar (as you can see in the picture) in these same conditions.

Still no signs of life, so yeah, I'm planning to dump it soon.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: BeefSupremeJr]
    #28190626 - 02/16/23 06:51 PM (11 months, 6 days ago)

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BeefSupremeJr said:
Half quart spawn? Id be putting two of them to one shoebox.

two half quarts  + 4 quarts sub.  mix, then level and press.

then two more quarts sub on top. (and level and press)

my sub recipe is as follows:

example:  let a brick weight 650g

x5

so that would be 3250g water (or 3.23 liters)

two quarts of verm.






Thatโ€™s 7 quarts right?  My shoebox is only 6 qt.  Donโ€™t you want plenty of empty space too?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Auron]
    #28190627 - 02/16/23 06:54 PM (11 months, 6 days ago)

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Auron said:
Quote:

BeefSupremeJr said:
Half quart spawn? Id be putting two of them to one shoebox.

two half quarts  + 4 quarts sub.  mix, then level and press.

then two more quarts sub on top. (and level and press)

my sub recipe is as follows:

example:  let a brick weight 650g

x5

so that would be 3250g water (or 3.23 liters)

two quarts of verm.






Thatโ€™s 7 quarts right?  My shoebox is only 6 qt.  Donโ€™t you want plenty of empty space too?



Once you compress the sub, itโ€™ll fit with room to spare.  And no, you donโ€™t need extra room.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: San Pedro Girl] * 3
    #28192002 - 02/17/23 05:36 PM (11 months, 5 days ago)

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San Pedro Girl said:
Quote:

Auron said:
Quote:

BeefSupremeJr said:
Half quart spawn? Id be putting two of them to one shoebox.

two half quarts  + 4 quarts sub.  mix, then level and press.

then two more quarts sub on top. (and level and press)

my sub recipe is as follows:

example:  let a brick weight 650g

x5

so that would be 3250g water (or 3.23 liters)

two quarts of verm.






Thatโ€™s 7 quarts right?  My shoebox is only 6 qt.  Donโ€™t you want plenty of empty space too?



Once you compress the sub, itโ€™ll fit with room to spare.  And no, you donโ€™t need extra room.





I like to shake, spawn and sub, inside a small, cheap garbage bag.

If you can find the right bags that will fit in the sb, corner to corner.

Just drop it in after shake up- fold bag over edges and start packing sides first the middle.

Also a spare sb that fits inside well can help give even compression. 

Don't half ass this step either .... compress- level- compress- level- then  casing/top layer don't  use  as much pressure (don't want your previous work to be undone or too much coir un evenly distributed.




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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: LewDoja] * 1
    #28192021 - 02/17/23 05:55 PM (11 months, 5 days ago)

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well, since we are on the subject, I thought I would share my liner technique:

I'm not going to do a whole write up because it's pretty straightforward.

I basically put the whole box into a kitchen bag.  I mix my sub and spawn just the way I told you.

I pour it in there.  Level and press.

Two more qts on top.  Level and press.

Then I use a razor blade and cut the liner a half inch above the substrate level.  You can use a piece of cardboard or whatever if you are concerned about scratching your tub.  I personally don't give a shit.



use the other half for another tub



Whoops  just seen this ๐Ÿ˜ฌ        :whathesaid:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: San Pedro Girl] * 1
    #28192127 - 02/17/23 07:17 PM (11 months, 5 days ago)

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Quote:

Auron said:
Quote:

BeefSupremeJr said:
Half quart spawn? Id be putting two of them to one shoebox.

two half quarts  + 4 quarts sub.  mix, then level and press.

then two more quarts sub on top. (and level and press)

my sub recipe is as follows:

example:  let a brick weight 650g

x5

so that would be 3250g water (or 3.23 liters)

two quarts of verm.






Thatโ€™s 7 quarts right?  My shoebox is only 6 qt.  Donโ€™t you want plenty of empty space too?



Once you compress the sub, itโ€™ll fit with room to spare.  And no, you donโ€™t need extra room.





I found the tek I was using.  His layer is super thin and worked well.  Iโ€™m so confused

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=2&Number=26009662&fpart=1&PHPSESSID=


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Auron]
    #28192591 - 02/18/23 06:53 AM (11 months, 4 days ago)

Quote:

Auron said:
Quote:

San Pedro Girl said:
Quote:

Auron said:
Quote:

BeefSupremeJr said:
Half quart spawn? Id be putting two of them to one shoebox.

two half quarts  + 4 quarts sub.  mix, then level and press.

then two more quarts sub on top. (and level and press)

my sub recipe is as follows:

example:  let a brick weight 650g

x5

so that would be 3250g water (or 3.23 liters)

two quarts of verm.






Thatโ€™s 7 quarts right?  My shoebox is only 6 qt.  Donโ€™t you want plenty of empty space too?



Once you compress the sub, itโ€™ll fit with room to spare.  And no, you donโ€™t need extra room.





I found the tek I was using.  His layer is super thin and worked well.  Iโ€™m so confused

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=2&Number=26009662&fpart=1&PHPSESSID=



Itโ€™ll all work. I use 1:3 with a 1 part pseudocasing.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: San Pedro Girl]
    #28199968 - 02/22/23 09:46 PM (10 months, 30 days ago)

My 1/2 inch pins have stalled, donโ€™t think theyโ€™re going to make it. My block is super dry. 

Just so I can understand this, spawn dehydrates your substrate correct?  I didnโ€™t use enough (1:1.5) and thatโ€™s itโ€™s so dry and producing weak fruits?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Inocuole] * 1
    #28199975 - 02/22/23 09:54 PM (10 months, 30 days ago)

Running out of available water can stall a pinset. Why not rehydrate? Spray em.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Smellyhobbit]
    #28200109 - 02/23/23 01:50 AM (10 months, 30 days ago)

This has been asked before but I don't think it was answered.

Are these 100% legal cultures sold by one of our vendors actually legal?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: DERRAYLD] * 3
    #28200141 - 02/23/23 03:46 AM (10 months, 30 days ago)

As far as I can tell itโ€™s basically somebody really pushing the limits of decriminalization. But itโ€™s only for a handful of cities idk how theyโ€™re justifying nationwide.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: A.k.a] * 2
    #28200143 - 02/23/23 03:48 AM (10 months, 30 days ago)

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: DERRAYLD] * 1
    #28200148 - 02/23/23 03:55 AM (10 months, 30 days ago)

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Our liquid culture syringes use a special blend of organic low dose nutrient solution that suspends the mycelium in a state that prevents it from producing any illegal active alkaloids




Oh really?

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: DERRAYLD]
    #28200159 - 02/23/23 04:17 AM (10 months, 30 days ago)

Ok, what do you guys think ...

my temps were too low for a while, had to put a radiator in my grow closet. since I put it in there, 1 grainspawn bag sped up bigtime, to the point where its almost ready to be sent to a tub. 1 bag has the tiniest amount of mycelium growing and the other 2 have none (neither myc nor contam). I'm considering re-inoculating, though double inoculation is an invitation for contam. Or, should I just wait longer?

inoculated with LC roughly a month ago


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