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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: JW123] * 2
    #28184674 - 02/12/23 09:18 PM (11 months, 10 days ago)

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Since no one else is asking I will. What are you doing with PF TEK? Pheno hunting or something else?





I just needed a 123 cookie dough recipe for a person who's just starting out, without having to write it all out myself.

PF tek is great to start out and get a feel for things, especially for somebody with limited time or resources.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Nichrome]
    #28184682 - 02/12/23 09:31 PM (11 months, 10 days ago)

Makes sense. Keep them away from those other spore to grain maneuvers.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: JW123] * 1
    #28184778 - 02/12/23 11:52 PM (11 months, 10 days ago)

josex uses it to clean up bacterial cultures, pins & fruits really well if you're just looking for clone material/prints & don't wanna spawn a whole tub


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: hazyhorse]
    #28184837 - 02/13/23 01:30 AM (11 months, 10 days ago)

Yeah, I actually thought that was what he was doing.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Nichrome]
    #28184908 - 02/13/23 01:59 AM (11 months, 10 days ago)

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Since no one else is asking I will. What are you doing with PF TEK? Pheno hunting or something else?





I just needed a 123 cookie dough recipe for a person who's just starting out, without having to write it all out myself.

PF tek is great to start out and get a feel for things, especially for somebody with limited time or resources.




I go back to the pf tek from time to time to remind myself where i came from. it's an opportunity to sit down and be humble for me.

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and I absolutely fuck up some pretty basic shit, but I got results. It's a good place to return when you're trying to run faster than you can walk.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: fiddle_head] * 1
    #28184970 - 02/13/23 04:31 AM (11 months, 9 days ago)

pf tek is good for a few things...noobs without a pc, cleaning up bacterial cultures, just for fun...

but if have a pc and you want cakes that produce more fruit, try your hand with Kramer Cakes... I was averaging a lil over half oz per cake when I ran them forever ago... they are a lot less forgiving that brf cakes so DO NOT shoot spores into jars... blenderless LI or a clean LC is best to inoculate them with


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Leftfield420]
    #28185407 - 02/13/23 12:16 PM (11 months, 9 days ago)

My shoeboxes seem to be drying out even with the lid on. I live in Denver, high and dry.

They don’t seal very well, should there be a tight seal?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Auron] * 1
    #28185415 - 02/13/23 12:25 PM (11 months, 9 days ago)

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My shoeboxes seem to be drying out even with the lid on. I live in Denver, high and dry.

They don’t seal very well, should there be a tight seal?





Id say your coir moisture is inadequate.  your ratio of spawn to sub might need bumped too

whats your recipe.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: BeefSupremeJr] * 1
    #28185421 - 02/13/23 12:29 PM (11 months, 9 days ago)

also, i put a weight on top while i am
colonizing. 

be wary, those in more humid climates will say "you dont need to do that" but i live in the desert and i totally have to do things that others dont. 

my coir mix is 5x brickweight in water +2qts verm.

4:1 spawn ratio then 2qts of casing. 

so its a 7qt total spawn.  that gives me all the water i need until second flush but i still gotta dunk.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: BeefSupremeJr] * 1
    #28185569 - 02/13/23 02:00 PM (11 months, 9 days ago)

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My shoeboxes seem to be drying out even with the lid on. I live in Denver, high and dry.

They don’t seal very well, should there be a tight seal?





Id say your coir moisture is inadequate.  your ratio of spawn to sub might need bumped too

whats your recipe.




I did 1:2 shredded pf tek to coir/verm.  Field capacity was several drops because the last one was barely any and I wanted more moisture.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: BeefSupremeJr] * 3
    #28185657 - 02/13/23 02:53 PM (11 months, 9 days ago)

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also, i put a weight on top while i am
colonizing. 

be wary, those in more humid climates will say "you dont need to do that" but i live in the desert and i totally have to do things that others dont. 

my coir mix is 5x brickweight in water +2qts verm.

4:1 spawn ratio then 2qts of casing. 

so its a 7qt total spawn.  that gives me all the water i need until second flush but i still gotta dunk.



"YoU doN't NEeD caSInG FoR cuBEz"

No muthafucka, you don't. My tiny bottles sure do at less than 15% RH.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: SirPsycho] * 1
    #28185671 - 02/13/23 03:03 PM (11 months, 9 days ago)

i live in the high desert & a heavily misted top layer at spawn has done me wonders. i wouldn’t say strictly necessary, but it’s made enough of a difference that i personally do it every time now. everyone’s conditions are gonna be different. more humidity is never gonna hurt cubes as long as you can dial FAE in alongside it


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Inocuole] * 3
    #28185673 - 02/13/23 03:05 PM (11 months, 9 days ago)

I’m in Texas and I do a misted top layer too πŸ‘


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: SirPsycho] * 2
    #28185674 - 02/13/23 03:06 PM (11 months, 9 days ago)

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also, i put a weight on top while i am
colonizing. 

be wary, those in more humid climates will say "you dont need to do that" but i live in the desert and i totally have to do things that others dont. 

my coir mix is 5x brickweight in water +2qts verm.

4:1 spawn ratio then 2qts of casing. 

so its a 7qt total spawn.  that gives me all the water i need until second flush but i still gotta dunk.



"YoU doN't NEeD caSInG FoR cuBEz"

No muthafucka, you don't. My tiny bottles sure do at less than 15% RH.




Right?!?


I know these aren't that accurate, but it fucking rained this morning and the humidity doesn't even register in my office.

What works for some don't for others. So I will use Hydroton if I want to, dammit.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Inocuole] * 11
    #28185679 - 02/13/23 03:12 PM (11 months, 9 days ago)

All that really matters is results. A good grower is one who is able to identify conditions and adjust for it, not someone who adheres to a rigid formula regardless of region.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Auron] * 1
    #28185726 - 02/13/23 03:54 PM (11 months, 9 days ago)

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Auron said:
My shoeboxes seem to be drying out even with the lid on. I live in Denver, high and dry.

They don’t seal very well, should there be a tight seal?





Id say your coir moisture is inadequate.  your ratio of spawn to sub might need bumped too

whats your recipe.




I did 1:2 shredded pf tek to coir/verm.  Field capacity was several drops because the last one was barely any and I wanted more moisture.




1:2 isnt enough water for the desert.  (id consider denver pretty much a desert in terms of rh)

you have 3 quarts total and 7 is barely enough to flush once.

field capacity isnt really something you wanna guess with either.  you need to establish a baseline for data so you know where youve been and where to go. 

a "few drops" could mean 3.5x brick weight depending on how hard youre squeezing. subjective assessmsnts can get you in trouble. 

I think you and I probably are operating in a similar climate.  in fact i know we are.  Id try 5x brick weight then add more verm if you think its too wet.  i personally have found this to be a solid figure for *our climate

if i did this in maine where im at half the year, it would be a disaster.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: BeefSupremeJr]
    #28186323 - 02/13/23 09:50 PM (11 months, 9 days ago)

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Auron said:
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BeefSupremeJr said:
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Auron said:
My shoeboxes seem to be drying out even with the lid on. I live in Denver, high and dry.

They don’t seal very well, should there be a tight seal?





Id say your coir moisture is inadequate.  your ratio of spawn to sub might need bumped too

whats your recipe.




I did 1:2 shredded pf tek to coir/verm.  Field capacity was several drops because the last one was barely any and I wanted more moisture.




1:2 isnt enough water for the desert.  (id consider denver pretty much a desert in terms of rh)

you have 3 quarts total and 7 is barely enough to flush once.

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So 1:3 be better?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Auron] * 1
    #28186361 - 02/13/23 10:21 PM (11 months, 9 days ago)

1:4.  then two more on top.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Inocuole] * 1
    #28186399 - 02/13/23 10:50 PM (11 months, 9 days ago)

:whathesaid:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: fiddle_head] * 8
    #28186571 - 02/14/23 01:42 AM (11 months, 9 days ago)

Yeah I’m working work around 10% RH all year too. For a long time I was doing fine but having to mist every day or so. Then I tried making my sub a little bit wetter and it made a HUGE difference. Field cap is tricky cuz there’s a big range that works fine but a small sweet spot. Now I don’t touch after spawning.

Also if you have ac or a heater running a lot like I do it’s very hard to keep them from drying out. I started putting my shoeboxes into a slightly larger tub with pasty’s hole pattern on them and now everything is bulletproof.


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