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Inocuole
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Boogieman47]
#23650676 - 09/16/16 02:36 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Anywhere from not so much to very.
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Boogieman47
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Inocuole]
#23650685 - 09/16/16 02:39 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Haha youre always so helpful man lmao letting it dry just helps keep it from smearing then?
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Inocuole
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Boogieman47]
#23650688 - 09/16/16 02:40 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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No, it keeps bacteria from multiplying. You should probably not count on those prints honestly.
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Boogieman47
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Inocuole]
#23650698 - 09/16/16 02:43 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ok ill take more tonight and let them dry haha thanks ... also being that i got albinos out of this clone then i could eventually get a tub full of them?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Boogieman47]
#23650704 - 09/16/16 02:44 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Maybe but probably not... Could just as likely be environmental or just a one-off.
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Boogieman47
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Inocuole]
#23650711 - 09/16/16 02:49 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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There were about 7 or 8 but really tiny i noticed that they were underneath all the fatties its cool how they all were light like the clone was i mean weird i know it was a clone but i didnt think they would all come out like that being i didnt isolate
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Boogieman47]
#23650866 - 09/16/16 04:08 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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noob47 said: Ok ill take more tonight and let them dry haha thanks ... also being that i got albinos out of this clone then i could eventually get a tub full of them?
Jesus those are filthy hands. Hands of a cultivator!
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Boogieman47
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: JacobStorm]
#23650880 - 09/16/16 04:13 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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That was actually before i started picking haha jk
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Boogieman47]
#23651959 - 09/17/16 01:06 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ok making prints with a flowhood what i did was turned on my hood wiped down the table and laid down my foil put the caps on then covered with my mason jars turned off my hood and now im waiting when i go get them tomorrow what should i do after pulling the caps off just have my hood on remove caps and replace the jar for a couple hours to dry?
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Supalemonhaze
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Boogieman47]
#23652049 - 09/17/16 02:58 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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What I like to do is put my foil sheet inside a metal/plastic tray and then put the caps on the foil. After that, I cover the entire foil sheet with another big piece of foil and use it as a lid. Since you are using a hood, the spaces inbetween the jars will have all kinds of mold spores settled there so when you switch the hood back on and remove the jars, the flow will be blowing contams all over your prints. But yes, 2 hours should be enough for cube prints to dry.
I dried oyster prints for 24 hours once and when I went to open them a few days later, they were all gooey inside with all the bacteria. The spore and bacteria mix looked like semi dry It was sticky as fuck too, tore most of the prints trying to open them. Oysters let off A LOT of moisture. Cube prints dry fast though so you should be fine. Doesn't hurt to leave them a little bit extra, to be safe.
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Or just leave the hood on for 30minutes with nothing covering the prints.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Boogieman47]
#23652054 - 09/17/16 03:04 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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noob47 said: Ok making prints with a flowhood what i did was turned on my hood wiped down the table and laid down my foil put the caps on then covered with my mason jars turned off my hood and now im waiting when i go get them tomorrow what should i do after pulling the caps off just have my hood on remove caps and replace the jar for a couple hours to dry?
how long do you let your hood run before printing?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: cronicr]
#23652114 - 09/17/16 03:58 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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That won't matter much with a print IMO. I have done agar transfers and grain inoculations with the hood scrubbing the room for no more than a few minutes without any ill effects. I do it more regularly with prints since it only takes a few minutes. Like, if I'm pouring agar or prepping grain, by the time the stuff is getting out of the PC, it would have already been running for at least an hour. With prints, I'm not going to wait for half an hour just to do 5 minutes of work.
The laminar flow pretty much guarantees that the dirty air in the room will not mix in with the sterile flow coming out of the hood. I get what you are saying, it's better to scrub the room than not to but it is far from a requirement and from what I've experienced, it makes no noticeable difference.
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wtfcrazymofo
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: azur]
#23652124 - 09/17/16 04:03 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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azur said: It goes deeper than that. While I like to drive fast, I much prefer potency to speed of growth
Is mush potency is more perferable? I think so.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: wtfcrazymofo]
#23652219 - 09/17/16 05:52 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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deadmandave said: I know its beneficial to change up an agar recipe so that the mycelium gets a change of pace and doesnt get too acclimated to one food source, but how often should the recipe be changed?
That's only a theory and not one I subscribe to.
I've had all of my cultures on MEA for well over a decade, and many of those were more than ten years old when I got them. I've not noticed one whit of deterioration in performance. RR

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Pastywhyte
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Maybe if RR had changed his recipe he might have seen an increase in performance. Just because he claims to not have seen a decrease doesn't mean things couldn't have been better.
Too many times I have seen people chugging along on MEA only. The cultures look weak and colonize sluggish. They switch to something else and bam! Takes off roaring. Maybe it's a coincidence. But I still plan to rotate my media.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23652465 - 09/17/16 08:51 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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the different recipes don't take longer to make either. most people have what they need for PDA and grain water agar. half of the posters probably have ready access to dry cat or dog food too. thats 3 recipes that can be made without leaving your kitchen.
you don't have to be a media rotation nazi, but I think the idea itself is self explanatory enough to warrant its practice
i remember RR calling bucket TEK bunk, but we still use that
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: blindingleaf]
#23652492 - 09/17/16 09:00 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Well the first time I heard about media rotation it made sense to me, I've got to admit. Maybe I'm just trying to find an excuse to stop trying to get anything but MEA to work .
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dog food agar works well for every species I ever cultured. it is the bomb,if I only had to use one recipe for the rest of my life that would be it. regular purina dog chow is fine (or whatever u got) 10g ground up into 500ml water with 10g agar. I don't strain it, just swirl the solids when pouring, but some people make dog food tea, strain, and then add agar to that
edibles, actives, they all do well on it. plus…(according to stamets) the recipe came from steven pollock, the man who brought us tampenensis (edit: and lets be honest….lived a pimpin life)….so u get to pay homage to him with every transfer
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Edited by blindingleaf (09/17/16 09:15 AM)
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: blindingleaf]
#23652559 - 09/17/16 09:26 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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No dogs in this household so I have yet to try DFA. Didn't like PDA the few times I tried it and GWA is unpredictable at best when it comes to mycelium growth. It's definitely strange, I've seen pretty awesome mycelium growing on both PDA and GWA on here yet I have never had as good results as I do with MEA.
I usually leave my cultures on MEA for a while, a couple of months maybe (possibly more), before I do a couple of batches of GWA. After which, they are back on MEA.
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I go back and forth between cornmeal and MEA myself
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