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Boogieman47
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: van hatton]
#24204121 - 03/29/17 10:34 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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With 3 it was up to 17.5 with still no movement i just turned it down a bit i figure 16 will be perfect ... ya both times i fell asleep late night pc'ing and the second one was on its 4th run so still brand new haha i was prettt pissed at myself ..
Azur told me to put a 2x4 on it and give it a few good whacks but im afraid it will fuck up worse knowing my luck it could be raining asian hookers and i would be hit with a queer haha
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van hatton
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Boogieman47]
#24204138 - 03/29/17 10:41 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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Bahahaha
That post had me cracking up
Not even 5 minutes ago I was explaining to my girl that I can't fall asleep because I'll warp the PCs 
I mean how bad are they warped I would do it if it wasn't sitting on the stove properly. Could help could hurt
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Boogieman47
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: van hatton]
#24204146 - 03/29/17 10:44 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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Haha ya they wobble wobble like the 504 boyz once said i may jusy give one a good whack and see how that one turns out before going ham on both
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stareatclouds
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Boogieman47]
#24204149 - 03/29/17 10:48 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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Drop it, drop it, oooh, take it, take it!
After reading, I think I'll just let my water boil with the lid off ahead of time, full of jars (read this helps raising PSI).
Then I'll vent my PC a bit more ahead of time with the lid on. Get the air out and place the weight on when it's all steam, that way it's hotter initially when it reaches the maximum PSI. So either way, I'll get more optimal sterilization period.
I'm still of the belief that my rocker is telling me the truth about PSI, but I know nothing about physics, elevation, etc.
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van hatton
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Boogieman47]
#24204156 - 03/29/17 10:52 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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Smack dat shit
Yeah that's no good I ended up returning the 16qt I had it was within 90 days and got in a huge argument with the chick.
Star eat cloud  On my prestos the weights differ by about 10gs if I remember right. Pretty sure with the quarters they are between 90-100gs again if I remember right.
Oh also. I don't usually put my weights on until I go above 1psi
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Fun part is figuring out what works best for you
Edited by van hatton (03/29/17 10:55 PM)
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natedawgnow
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: van hatton]
#24204164 - 03/29/17 11:01 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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Ya i'm with stare. I thought that if it is a 15psi regulated weight, then it won't rock below 15psi. Like the weight weighs the same and the vent pipe is the same shape no matter what elevation you are at.
I can see that chart being true for sterilizers, which have a stopcock, but I thought the 15psi weight won't rock below 15 psi at all. The shape and mass of the weight don't change no matter the elevation
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van hatton
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: natedawgnow]
#24204168 - 03/29/17 11:04 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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But the weights don't weigh the same as I said above. Even that 10gram difference is like 1psi (what I'm observing meow)
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Fun part is figuring out what works best for you
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Mad Season
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: natedawgnow]
#24204176 - 03/29/17 11:07 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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The rocker and the vent pair should be machined to be at exactly 15 psi, at least AAs will be. If the gauge is calibrated to sea level, the way for the gauge to read 15 psi is if the overall pressure is 29.7 psi (14.7 atmospheric pressure + 15 psi).
If your elevation is say 12.7 psi, roughly 5000 ft above sea level, the internal pressure of a PC hitting 15 psi would have an overall pressure of 27.7 psi, 2 psi lower than that at sea level. This means the gauge, which is calibrated to sea level will be reading 13 psi rather than 15, even though the interior contents are 15.
This is all because pressure is equal in all directions.
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Boogieman47
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: van hatton]
#24204178 - 03/29/17 11:09 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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That sounds like a good idea with the lid off i just moved into the new spot and we have electric stove instead of gas its crazy how much of a difference it makes between the 2 within maybe 30 minutes on the gas i had a steady flow of steam venting ... it takes almost an hour on this pos
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natedawgnow
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Mad Season]
#24204185 - 03/29/17 11:13 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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That fits into what I believed to be true. That the gauge reading means little in comparison to the weight. I use an AA, and my weight starts rocking when my gauge reads 13 psi and I am at damn near sea level.
Now I know this is mostly due to poor factory calibration, but still it only helps to solidify the "ineffectiveness of gauges alone" argument
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: natedawgnow]
#24204190 - 03/29/17 11:16 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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But 2 psi lower overall is still operating at a lower temperature than 15 psi at sea level. In that case you should up your cook times by 30 mins, or increase the operating temperature by adding weights to the weight to make it operate at the same temperature as sea level.
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natedawgnow
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Mad Season]
#24204203 - 03/29/17 11:28 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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I'm in south texas, basically at sea level. My gauge reads 13 but there is just no way that it actually rocks at 13, it definitely rocks at 15, it's just a case of poor gauge calibration. Possible that since the AAs are made in Wisconsin, it's likely that they are calibrated to Wisconsin elevation and just slightly off down here. I made the point mainly to point out that gauges shouldn't be trusted as much as the weight.
Also, I do tape quarters to my weight because I like to rock around 18psi
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: natedawgnow]
#24204205 - 03/29/17 11:31 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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Noob can you not hear the water rumbling inside?
I ran my shitty old PC dry more than once,it was still steaming, but zero boiling noise. Maybe mines just more rumbly than some.
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van hatton
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Moabfighter]
#24204207 - 03/29/17 11:34 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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I just realized your noob47
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Fun part is figuring out what works best for you
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Boogieman47
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Moabfighter]
#24204213 - 03/29/17 11:37 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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Ya sometimes i can hear it the issue was me passing out but sometimes i dont hear the water i have ran it almost dry awake and thats why i made it to where the weight barely rocked... haha ya i figured when i changed my name the sig and avatar would give it away but even with the aka noob people dont catch on haha
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stareatclouds said: Hm, I thought that regardless of what the gauge said, the rocker/weight would tell you the PSI you're reaching. So with a 15PSI weight and hissing/shaking, you're at 15PSI.
I'm between 400-700' elevation and my rocker never goes past 13.5 PSI before going crazy. Even when I turn it down a bit to relieve the spinning/shaking, it still steadily hisses a bit and spits out a few flecks of water along the side of the weight.
Should I tape some quarters to it or what?
That's not a psi issue. It's either that rocker is shit, or your gauge isn't calibrated to sea level. Because if you are at 500 then your rocker is going to rock at 15 psi if it's a non-faulty rocker even if your thing reads 13.5. 100%. If it's a faulty rocker then that's the other possibility. Nothing else though
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stareatclouds
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: van hatton]
#24204261 - 03/30/17 12:17 AM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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SloppyJoseph said: That's not a psi issue. It's either that rocker is shit, or your gauge isn't calibrated to sea level. Because if you are at 500 then your rocker is going to rock at 15 psi if it's a non-faulty rocker even if your thing reads 13.5. 100%. If it's a faulty rocker then that's the other possibility. Nothing else though
I wasn't saying it's a PSI issue. I was saying it's a gauge issue which can definitely have faulty calibration. I am saying that I probably AM at 15PSI with my rocking, but my gauge is only reading 13.5. Everything I've read about AA's suggest that the weight tells the truth and the gauge is just hinting.
I taped a quarter to one side. I'm running it a full 1 notch higher on the element that I could ever get away with before and it's not rattling at all, only jiggling once every while, yet my gauge is still around 13PSI even.
I'm very sure the weight was telling the truth and my gauge is just inaccurate. I'm probably running a bit above 15PSI right now with the quarter.
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van hatton said: But the weights don't weigh the same as I said above. Even that 10gram difference is like 1psi (what I'm observing meow)
I don't think that's true, though. AA sends out a single weight for 5, 10, and 15 PSI levels. I'm very sure they're all the exact same measurements throughout the appropriate models.
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van hatton
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I was talking about my presto weights. I didn't realize most of you were referring to AAS. I hope the AAS have exact measurements and weights for that price tag.
Thanks for keep me awake and entertained guys good night
Edited by van hatton (03/30/17 12:22 AM)
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy]
#24204679 - 03/30/17 07:45 AM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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Definitely wise words in all aspects of life.
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abductee
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Awesome, love seeing the pictures to illustrate what your talking about. It's also cool to see the process you took to get to that phat tub. I was gong to reply bout this yesterday, but the woman was getting tired of my nose in the iPad and not other places.lol I managed to get two clones from the ghostie put up n agar, that lil white mushroom turned crazy dark blue, I'm hoping it's a sign of killer potency. I also finally got atl#7 on agar and transferred some isolates from culture from a clone. Been a busy but productive week.
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