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SloppyJoseph
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy] 1
#24202528 - 03/29/17 12:27 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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PinPornProducer said: I cloned this

And ended up with this

Then tried some different things and ended up with this

Tried some other things and ended up with this

Kept on trying different things until I finally got this

These are all the same culture (my #4 clone)
It just goes to show you how much conditions and slight sub ingredient changes can impact the outcome of the same culture
Again. Correlation does not mean causation. That could have happened in a experiment with 100 tubs of the same substrate makeup. When you put the culture to its own devises mushrooms have a mind of their own in that sense. Give the same culture precisely same conditions split into 100 different mycelial networks can perform slightly differently. In this case mutated versus normal with the tendency being mutated, where I've had a clone produce blobs before when the tendency was to not.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Edmunter]
#24202533 - 03/29/17 12:31 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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Edmunter said: Greetings peoples. I have recieved my presso and raring to go. One thing though. I want to raise the bottom protector cooking rack up and need advice. What do you use?
Not sure Ed, I heard RR used tin foil balls but not sure what anyone else uses hint hint......
Thats a good idea i just use the lid rings and a veggie steamer rack but only on bags you dont need to for jars
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Boogieman47]
#24202543 - 03/29/17 12:39 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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I'd always make 4 aluminum foil cubes. I still have them sitting somewhere around here, but don't use them anymore.
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PinPornProducer said: I actually cloned fruits from Muda style jars. I first spawned a couple ms tubs and got blobs so I then made up several ms Muda bottles and ended up getting several normal fruits that I took clones from. I then spawned some tubs under normal circumstances and got blobs. After that I started playing around with different variables
I just used pf cakes for the same reason. I'm dumb.
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If I test something, I grow it out in the environment I'll want it growing long-term on. I ran a PE culture that killed in tubs in a bunch of Muda bottles and they performed horribly.
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Hey guys, so I have 1 pint jar, cake style, of Purple Mystic and one of AA+. They are close to being done. Very healthy. I shook the PM and it bounced right back! So should I fruit these in jar with a bag over them, or should I make small trays mixing them with 1 QT of CVG (1.5Qt total)? 2 cakes isn't enough for me to buy perlite for the SGFC. These were just something I did, hoping to maybe get a clone, while I waited for spores to clean up on agar.
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Definitely bulk them with some cvg. See what happens. Go to the dollar store and find a little 3 qt container and buy 2 of them, stack them like a dub tub.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: SloppyJoseph]
#24202619 - 03/29/17 01:06 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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Ok I'll check those out. I was considering using a cleaned out butter tub. They hold 3 pints to the very rim. Would be one DEEP ass substrate, maybe get some big ones off that.
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Whatever works man. I fruit shit out of my garbage all the time
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: SloppyJoseph]
#24202643 - 03/29/17 01:16 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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I will go check out those tubs though. I have some 25QT mini monos, so some small shoe box style tubs could sit inside of those.
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Use the jar rings from you're 1/2 pints or quart jars to lift your rack in your pc. Worked great for me.
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SloppyJoseph
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How long you guys think I should PC at 13.5 psi? Just starting a cycle can't get higher than that right now. First time using a gauge so I actually get it quantified I was thinking 135 minutes would do it.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: SloppyJoseph]
#24203738 - 03/29/17 08:23 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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What's your elevation?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: van hatton]
#24203744 - 03/29/17 08:25 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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High as fuck
You could probably reverse the math and figure it out based on 13.5
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: SloppyJoseph]
#24203776 - 03/29/17 08:36 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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It is at "15psi" then because your elevation.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: SloppyJoseph]
#24203782 - 03/29/17 08:38 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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Is the elevation around 900m? Just curious if my math is right lol
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: van hatton]
#24203790 - 03/29/17 08:42 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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Well no. It's at 13.5 psi. Because of my elevation. Bacillus isn't saying right now that "oh at a higher elevation 13.5 is gonna do the job just the same." 15 psi at any elevation is the same effectiveness. If it's not at 15 psi that means I'm not sterilizing at the pressure I should be at. Meaning I 100% need to cook it longer, not doing so would be a mistake
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Mad Season said: Is the elevation around 900m? Just curious if my math is right lol
Nope higher
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Mad Season]
#24203795 - 03/29/17 08:43 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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Im at about 4500 it basically said to add 3 minutes to the regular cook time at 15 psi i cook jars of oats for 2.5 hours im running 4 bags of 5 qts each for 4.5
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: SloppyJoseph]
#24203801 - 03/29/17 08:47 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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The higher you go the less is required to reach sterilization temperature. If I remember right . So it's calibrated to be 15psi at sea level.
What do you mean it'll only go to 13.5? Is your rocker moving a ton. My presto generally would rock around 14psi just throw some quarters on it if you don't want to look up the elevation chart I'm pretty sure is in your PC Manuel /online
Edit: and now that I reread that page I feel like a jackass apologies
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Boogieman47]
#24203810 - 03/29/17 08:50 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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Im at about 4500 it basically said to add 3 minutes to the regular cook time at 15 psi i cook jars of oats for 2.5 hours im running 4 bags of 5 qts each for 4.5
That chart is wrong then just a bit. Overestimating the pressure drop. The says I should be around 11 psi on a 15psi cooker.
Is that a screeny from a site? Cause there's apparently another chart to use for the calculations it's trying to explain down on the bottom? Either way you the man dude thanks for that. I think 2.5 will be a safe bet. How's your result with 4.5 for bags?
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