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Rusty2096 said:
I think only Europeans use "cl" as a mesure.

Americans live in the past with the imperial system.

While over here we mostly use metric but would say 100-200ml instead of 1-2cl.

Edit: sorry for the offtopic, I was just thinking out loud

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100ml - 200ml would be 10 - 20 cl ;-)

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smalltalk_canceled said:
Confirmed: You can just pour 1-2 cl of a light lager pilsner/beer, add agar, and it turns into a viable plate.

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Smellyhobbit said:
Somethings been nagging at me lately. There’s plenty of options for plenty of procedures. Agar recipes, grain preps, substrate mixes - but is there truly no definitive, provably superior option?

My white whale right now is grain prep. I’m following p9’s millet prep, which I have no doubt is effective and perfectly serviceable. Compare this with no prep recipes or even boil recipes and it starts to make you think. We are wired to order things hierarchically, and surely grain preps must fall into an order, right?

We know there’s wrong ways to prep grain. And we know there’s more than one approach to preparing any given grain. So that leaves a lot of space in between for superior and inferior preps.

Are there objectively best practices when it comes to methods of preparation, and if so have they been collected in a single document/post?

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Good point SH! That also went through my mind, and I think the real point here is, that you know what it should be/how it should look in the end. In my opinion the best way is the way that you feel more comfortable with. For example, there are alot of people that do noprep. It works for them great, but when I tried it, I just didn't feel comfortable as with the way I preped my grain before. Even if my way takes much more hours and maybe a bit a discussion topic (due to fermentation etc), for me that way had always worked out great.

I stick to what I feel comfortable working. Same with Agar, I tried no prep version etc... I see people have great success with it and no condensation. well,... I didn't get that what other people achieved with it. So I stay with my pour Glass petri dishes as I always have done it.

In the end, the endproduct is the same, just different ways to get there.

Alot of people argue about what grain to use. But tbh, I've seen the best results with all of the different grains, everything works. You just have to find what you feel comfortable with.

IMO

Give me a

Edit: alot of teks is about saving time, having little effort etc... But for me that isn't really important, since it's my hobby anyway, I also don't mind spending time on it ;-)

Editedit: Aswell as, I barely measure anything :P I know, some treat mushcult like rocketscience. It's fun and very interesting. But not really necessary imo.

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Smellyhobbit said:
Shrimps of course is right. Thats what’s been so interesting to me. Why does something work flawlessly for one person and not at all for the next? Is it human error? Variance in materials? Luck?

Whatever the cause, it is ultimately better to have many ways of achieving the same result. I’m wondering if some sort of comprehensive, top-down troubleshooting flowchart for common issues would be a good thing to have. Something that would work for any prep where you run into problems.

I don’t know. Just thinking out loud.

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You mean something like this: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/24420178#24420178

Just regarding each specific Tek? Alot of work^^

For me (I am now loosing my virginity to growing pans), I have read the Thread from Asura and from Babayaga. I kind of combined both, using the preparation methods that I felt most comfortable with. It's still running, so can't give any update on how it worked out. But I went on it the same way as when I first started with cubes 14yrs. ago.

Sometimes I just wanted to achieve the same result in a prep method, but always failed. So I just stopped it and did it an other way that worked for me, and I got results.

I think all of the Teks work great, the reason why someone has less success with a Tek where others have great success is in my opinion often because the people don't feel confident enough in what they are doing.

I could also be totally wrong, that just how I see it. I don't think such a flowchart would work for everyone. Because maybe someone understands it and an other maybe doesn't.

Edit: something I haven't considered yet is also, that someone understands why it works and has success with it, while the other doesn't understand how or why it works and in that scenario makes exactly there the mistake.