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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Adas] 5
#28001840 - 10/16/22 02:12 PM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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That's cute. You guys have clearly never harvested a tub of Tamp spaghetti 
i wish i could say you were right, but you drudged up some repressed memories of trying to harvest this grow

i just ended up tearing them out by the handful & cutting off the coir from the end of the stipes & said fuck a second flush. absolute pain in the ass. would take a tub of APE any day over that lol
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: hazyhorse]
#28001841 - 10/16/22 02:15 PM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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Thanks for proving me wrong and giving me a good laugh I can see why you repressed this memory. lol
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Adas] 1
#28002009 - 10/16/22 04:05 PM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Adas] 2
#28002011 - 10/16/22 04:06 PM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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glad i could give ya some joy out of my pain gonna box it back up & forget about it until my next tub of spaghetti tamps
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: hazyhorse] 2
#28002392 - 10/16/22 08:57 PM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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APE harvest from SmartAttack's planet of the APEs
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Smartattack said: All done!!
5/28/20
Here's a few snaps in rotation:


Mean green's a poppin'


This is what was lurking at the base within the glad container, I knew it was gunna be weird!


So all in all not too shabby. 8/10...would try again 
Official final weight of wet fruits:
874 grams wet.
I of course also trim all of them before weighing rather than leaving 14 ounces of sub and oats like some folks, so this is true weight. I'm expecting just about 3 ounces dried up. Or another 14 lifetimes worth for me of

I dont typically weigh my shit for BE and all that crap so I dont have an honest comparison to my normal 4 qt tubs. I just cut, dry, put in bags, be done. I will measure my next mono and compare, my guess is that it is comparable but slightly less. I know that the trich did me no favors here either so that's a consideration. Not to mention the fact that this is a one flush wonder, which sucks because I would have like to see some 2nd flush big boys on it. She may have her final say in the compost pile though since the weather is hot as balls ATM.

Well...alrighty then. On to the next fucking thing lol.
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Wait.. what the fuck are all you people doing in my thread? I just treated the St. Augustine yesterday! Goddamn kids.
Nah, actually I have a question. I've been off the forums for.. shit, what year is it? Er. For some time. Some amount of time that is larger than 1 year and less than 6. Fuck, man. Anyway, with the speed that we were all learning new shit from the time I started until I trailed off, I expect I am now unwise to the current common knowledge.
So tell me, do we know anything more about Baeocystin yet? Is there anything to support that mushrooms can carry ratios of different actives that would objectively effect the experience in a distinguishable way? How I came up understanding it, is that we have Psilocybin and Psilocin. And Psilocybin is essentially time-release psilocin, since we have to break it down into psilocin before it has any effect. So we have Psilocin. There's also Baeocystin and a few other alkaloids of some sort. Last I heard, we couldn't definitively pin down what they actually do, if anything. So what the fuck is the deal?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Inocuole]
#28002417 - 10/16/22 09:13 PM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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yo what the fuck!! welcome back dog (: no idea how to answer your question but awesome to see ya post
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: hazyhorse]
#28002445 - 10/16/22 10:05 PM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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That is a good question!
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: hazyhorse]
#28002446 - 10/16/22 10:09 PM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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 Welcome back! A pleasure. I Am also curious about the other alkaloids
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: BagOfDicks] 3
#28002447 - 10/16/22 10:09 PM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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Well the long and short of it is we still don't know jack
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: SirPsycho] 1
#28002531 - 10/17/22 12:30 AM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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SirPsycho said: Well the long and short of it is we still don't know jack
Nice, love that for us. Ah well.
I'm sure there's a lot of other shit I'm behind on, besides that. I might just do what newbs are always recommended to do, stick around for a bit and pay attention. Never too late to learn some shit.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Inocuole] 2
#28002534 - 10/17/22 12:33 AM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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Inocuole said: Wait.. what the fuck are all you people doing in my thread? I just treated the St. Augustine yesterday! Goddamn kids.
Nah, actually I have a question. I've been off the forums for.. shit, what year is it? Er. For some time. Some amount of time that is larger than 1 year and less than 6. Fuck, man. Anyway, with the speed that we were all learning new shit from the time I started until I trailed off, I expect I am now unwise to the current common knowledge.
So tell me, do we know anything more about Baeocystin yet? Is there anything to support that mushrooms can carry ratios of different actives that would objectively effect the experience in a distinguishable way? How I came up understanding it, is that we have Psilocybin and Psilocin. And Psilocybin is essentially time-release psilocin, since we have to break it down into psilocin before it has any effect. So we have Psilocin. There's also Baeocystin and a few other alkaloids of some sort. Last I heard, we couldn't definitively pin down what they actually do, if anything. So what the fuck is the deal?
Relay unto me the word, for without the eyes of my brethren, I am yet blind.
Beta-carbolines too. Check your cultures with a good UV lamp. See if you see any green glow.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Nichrome]
#28002561 - 10/17/22 01:06 AM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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Anyone know anything about a cube variety called Haloe? Searching I only find golden halo. Nothing about a Haloe variety.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Inocuole]
#28004554 - 10/18/22 11:29 AM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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Is it just my strain of golden teacher.... or do others find that the temperature they fruit in is a bit more important than is commonly stated here...
I find my monos slow down and struggle making a canopy at room temp 68f (substrate temp 71f) And they get thin and hollow at room temp 72f (substrate temp 75f) Thats a somewhat surprisingly narrow window.
It gets complicated, opening the lid more reduces the difference between the substrate temp and room temp. And how close you stack your totes...
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tedoro]
#28004600 - 10/18/22 12:10 PM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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So I checked my WBS today after soaking around 20 hours. Starting with hot water. The wheat is mush inside but the Milo is still mostly dry. Didn't try to check millet.
I guess I'm probably just overthinking things because it performs fine but rumfor69 got me curious about how well it's hydrated after only a 24h soak then being loaded wet and PCed.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tedoro]
#28004609 - 10/18/22 12:16 PM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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tedoro said: Is it just my strain of golden teacher.... or do others find that the temperature they fruit in is a bit more important than is commonly stated here...
I find my monos slow down and struggle making a canopy at room temp 68f (substrate temp 71f) And they get thin and hollow at room temp 72f (substrate temp 75f) Thats a somewhat surprisingly narrow window.
It gets complicated, opening the lid more reduces the difference between the substrate temp and room temp. And how close you stack your totes...
Both.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Grind365]
#28004628 - 10/18/22 12:25 PM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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Grind365 said: So I checked my WBS today after soaking around 20 hours. Starting with hot water. The wheat is mush inside but the Milo is still mostly dry. Didn't try to check millet.
I guess I'm probably just overthinking things because it performs fine but rumfor69 got me curious about how well it's hydrated after only a 24h soak then being loaded wet and PCed.
I have tested WBS over night soaks. Many times. Are you in jars? If so, my advice is to wash the living hell out of them before and after the soak, and do a room temp soak for 8-20 hours... the water uptake between the two is less than 1% water content. Id personally avoid the 20 hour end for fear of fermenting (can leave chemicals that can't be fixed with pressure cooking.) For the same reason, I'd avoid hot water soaks... leaves the grains in perfect fermenting temps. room temp is better. The cooler water makes for drier grains that tend to clump less or not at all. Around 160f water soaks can start adding water to the grains.... but the grains clump a tad bit more. I use bags, so clumping is easy to remedy, but I still live with the drier grains to avoid fermenting. Its bad news for our hobby. load wet, when it doesn't drip (10-15 minutes)
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tedoro]
#28004667 - 10/18/22 12:46 PM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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tedoro said:
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Grind365 said: So I checked my WBS today after soaking around 20 hours. Starting with hot water. The wheat is mush inside but the Milo is still mostly dry. Didn't try to check millet.
I guess I'm probably just overthinking things because it performs fine but rumfor69 got me curious about how well it's hydrated after only a 24h soak then being loaded wet and PCed.
I have tested WBS over night soaks. Many times. Are you in jars? If so, my advice is to wash the living hell out of them before and after the soak, and do a room temp soak for 8-20 hours... the water uptake between the two is less than 1% water content. Id personally avoid the 20 hour end for fear of fermenting (can leave chemicals that can't be fixed with pressure cooking.) For the same reason, I'd avoid hot water soaks... leaves the grains in perfect fermenting temps. room temp is better. The cooler water makes for drier grains that tend to clump less or not at all. Around 160f water soaks can start adding water to the grains.... but the grains clump a tad bit more. I use bags, so clumping is easy to remedy, but I still live with the drier grains to avoid fermenting. Its bad news for our hobby. load wet, when it doesn't drip (10-15 minutes)
Yes, I am running jars. I do rinse very well beforehand. Haven't been rinsing afterwards. This is my first time trying a hotsoak overnight and it did indeed start fermenting slightly not to the point of bubbling or or anything I can just smell a slight fermentation.
I hopefully they still perform but I'll probably stick to cold soaking from now on. Since it's getting a little cold outside I prepped this batch indoors and just used hot tap water.
Will post back with results after colonization.
I am trying to figure out my grain prep and how it works best for me. I don't really like no soak preps and simmering and drying grains isn't for me last 4 batches I've done overnight soak(12-24hours) loaded wet and PCed. Has been working great but I was told my another member to make sure grains are properly hydrated before PC cycle so I thought I'd check and share my results.
WBS can be a pain to simmer due to grains not being uniform but I can't really get wheat or barley anymore and don't like oats. My wheat prep was on point IMO and it stopped being available locally.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Grind365]
#28005299 - 10/18/22 06:35 PM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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The only thing I hear people complaining about with birdseed is it gets all over your house, and it doesn't hold as much water. Both things I can live with for... 1) no boiling 2) no drying 3) cheap easy to acquire 4) lots of inoculation points 5) prep very forgiving
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tedoro] 5
#28005659 - 10/18/22 11:40 PM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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Damprid to dry out colonized grains testing, underway. Got the three 4oz jars of fp+ revived clone recovered after a final shake (they got 3 total). Theyโre already starting to dry out (been in the jars 20 days now) so I think theyโre about as colonized as theyโre gonna get.

From this point on I want them broken up while they dryโฆ itโs extremely hard, if not impossible (from shaking alone at least), to break the kernels up once itโs a dried block of myc.
How I normally dry them is just removing the tape covering most of the large GE section on the lids

Normally it takes a few weeks to dry them out with the tape removed but trying to speed that up to a few days with damprid. Just doing one jar at a time to see how it goes.. gotta be careful not to dry them out too much so that the myc doesnโt die. So, Iโm keeping it simple and using a ziplock container with a cup of DR.. put a 1/4โ GE hole in the container lid with a couple layers of MTP for good measure. The other two jars will be a comparison without the DR and Iโm keeping track of the amount of time in the container.
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