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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: natedawgnow] * 2
    #27956720 - 09/18/22 10:10 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

Coir is great.

Straw is not a bad sub and is available nearly everywhere humans inhabit. Manure for cubes would be the next go to down the line should that not be available. Coir is what most people who have regular and almost predictable success use as a substrate for cubes and that is for good reason. Coir is a 100% imported item if you live in North America or Europe or much of the rest of the world.

There are always pros and cons. Available, good, and cheap are the important things.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: So Anyway]
    #27956962 - 09/19/22 04:09 AM (1 year, 4 months ago)

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Once I figure out best practices for taking tissue samples cleanly, I’m going to lean hard into cloning. Spore streaks are extremely reliable for me as well.




Josex poke works well for cloning; split the stipe and scrape some of the internal tissue out with the needle. Then squirt it into a brf puck. I've had good luck making LC straight from clones this way too.



This is how I cloned before I had agar. It worked super good.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: natedawgnow] * 3
    #27956965 - 09/19/22 04:16 AM (1 year, 4 months ago)

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I would only recommend manure to a person who has no access to coir. It's benefit is only that it's free and plentiful in rural areas where people mqy have a difficult time ordering coir




I disagree with this, having grown with hpoo for longer than a decade I still often prefer to use hpoo over coir and consistently get larger fruit on hpoo.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: DERRAYLD] * 1
    #27956971 - 09/19/22 04:30 AM (1 year, 4 months ago)

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I would only recommend manure to a person who has no access to coir. It's benefit is only that it's free and plentiful in rural areas where people mqy have a difficult time ordering coir




I disagree with this, having grown with hpoo for longer than a decade I still often prefer to use hpoo over coir and consistently get larger fruit on hpoo.



I think I remember you saying Nats do quite well on HP. Have some kicking about for my Pans. May give them a try with a bit of poop!


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: DERRAYLD]
    #27957046 - 09/19/22 07:49 AM (1 year, 4 months ago)

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I would only recommend manure to a person who has no access to coir. It's benefit is only that it's free and plentiful in rural areas where people mqy have a difficult time ordering coir




I disagree with this, having grown with hpoo for longer than a decade I still often prefer to use hpoo over coir and consistently get larger fruit on hpoo.



Everyone has preferences.

The main point was to refute this idea that manure grows dont use grain spawn. Not sure where that came from just pointing out they use grain spawn just like coir grows.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: natedawgnow]
    #27957069 - 09/19/22 08:15 AM (1 year, 4 months ago)

Aah got you, thanks for clarifying.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: DERRAYLD]
    #27957125 - 09/19/22 09:36 AM (1 year, 4 months ago)

Am preparing to make another round of PF tek. Was wondering if anyone experimented with using grain water to hydrate them. I'm not using standard PF lids. I've made some with ports and filters so I don't need the dry verm layer. Would using grain water be too many nutes for myc? :mushroom2:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Inocuole] * 2
    #27957133 - 09/19/22 09:46 AM (1 year, 4 months ago)

PF cakes are already really loaded with food. BRF is pretty nutrient dense. I don’t think it will hurt anything, but not sure it’s going to help all that much.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Smellyhobbit]
    #27957376 - 09/19/22 01:22 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

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PF cakes are already really loaded with food. BRF is pretty nutrient dense. I don’t think it will hurt anything, but not sure it’s going to help all that much.



Word. I'll do some side by side.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: cozmyc] * 2
    #27957603 - 09/19/22 03:38 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

So I’ve read that you should wait till PEU is done growing and turns blue to pick them. Is this still the general consensus? And what’s supposed to turn blue?  Caps?  This is what I’m looking at now.



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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: cozmyc] * 1
    #27957634 - 09/19/22 04:03 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

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PF cakes are already really loaded with food. BRF is pretty nutrient dense. I don’t think it will hurt anything, but not sure it’s going to help all that much.



Word. I'll do some side by side.





Remember, to do experiments with useful results, you have to use clones. There is too much variation in multispore to be scientific in controlled tests.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: nektar61] * 1
    #27957759 - 09/19/22 05:13 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

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Remember, to do experiments with useful results, you have to use clones. There is too much variation in multispore to be scientific in controlled tests.




True that.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Wildcat1883]
    #27957981 - 09/19/22 07:29 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

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So I’ve read that you should wait till PEU is done growing and turns blue to pick them. Is this still the general consensus? And what’s supposed to turn blue?  Caps?  This is what I’m looking at now.






I thought they looked like they were aborting the last pic you posted. Something seems off/weird about them


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Hobbit GDF] * 1
    #27958067 - 09/19/22 08:26 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

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So I’ve read that you should wait till PEU is done growing and turns blue to pick them. Is this still the general consensus? And what’s supposed to turn blue?  Caps?  This is what I’m looking at now.






I thought they looked like they were aborting the last pic you posted. Something seems off/weird about them




Here’s a couple more pics of them. Is it not normal for them to grow sideways and back into the sub like that?  I have the light straight above them so not sure what they’re looking for.  Would you even consume these?  I have some more PEU myc cleaned up on agar ready to go but it’s from the same mss.  Should I just try again?



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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Wildcat1883] * 1
    #27958148 - 09/19/22 09:01 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

The wizards at reddit showing off Looing so clean. I'm banned so I can't say anything.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Inocuole]
    #27958153 - 09/19/22 09:03 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

You guys hear that? It’s the sound of cubensis mycelium breathing heavily and sweating.


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    #27958161 - 09/19/22 09:05 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

Ewww lol


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: sandman420]
    #27958169 - 09/19/22 09:09 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

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The wizards at reddit showing off Looing so clean. I'm banned so I can't say anything.





I saw that and went to the comments and everyone was saying nice and good job :laugh:, what a beautiful community lol.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: rumfor69]
    #27958172 - 09/19/22 09:10 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

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Mycelium: "Finally some good food!" But seriously if that's a mix of different grains that's highly nutritious and explains the extremely rhizomorphic growth.




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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: sandman420]
    #27958174 - 09/19/22 09:11 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

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Mycelium: "Finally some good food!" But seriously if that's a mix of different grains that's highly nutritious and explains the extremely rhizomorphic growth.







There can be no other answer :laugh2:


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