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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Rotnpins] * 2
    #27927363 - 08/31/22 11:26 AM (1 year, 4 months ago)

Yay! Right after national overdose awareness day.

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Rotnpins] * 1
    #27927437 - 08/31/22 12:18 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

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Did you guys know that tomorrow starts "National Mushroom Month" for those of us in the US?




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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Inocuole] * 2
    #27927460 - 08/31/22 12:34 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

I won’t say how, but I’m going to celebrate the hell out of it.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Smellyhobbit] * 3
    #27927560 - 08/31/22 01:32 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

Do you think this wheat would be ok to use?


I recieved 50kg of this wheat, the last I used was bigger and more brown than the new one :confused:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Rotnpins] * 3
    #27927703 - 08/31/22 03:24 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

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Did you guys know that tomorrow starts "National Mushroom Month" for those of us in the US?




What!!! And I'm hoping to have my first flush by the end of the month.  Now I must succeed!


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Inocuole]
    #27927706 - 08/31/22 03:29 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

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This is me posting my first picture, hope it works.  Day 2 on the rye.  Does this look right guys?  I hate to say it but I think I've checked on these 5 times a day so far, lol.  Im a total nerd.






Looks ok so far. Seems like your grains weren't completely dry on the outside before you loaded them into jars.




You were totally right.  My second batch is growing much faster in the dryer grain.  Day 7 on wet grain and day 4 on the dry.

How are they looking guys?  Any bad signs so far?



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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Inocuole] * 1
    #27927807 - 08/31/22 04:35 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

What’s y’all’s opinions of diminishing returns from tubs in subsequent flushes? I grew some jack frosts, and despite a fairly full tub they dehydrate down to around 5-7%. Now my second flush was predictably far fewer shrooms, but they were larger as expected. I’d say my second flush yielded maybe 5g total. Would this be a tub you’d even push to a third flush? It will almost certainly produce more, but would there even be value in the tub taking up space for 10 days making a few more grams?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Smellyhobbit] * 1
    #27927827 - 08/31/22 04:45 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

Is there absolutely no room at all in any sense for that tub to sit there for another ten days? If you made another tub would you have to like throw it in the hallway? If all you do is throw a lid on it and leave it alone why not?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Screwup] * 1
    #27927833 - 08/31/22 04:48 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

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Is there absolutely no room at all in any sense for that tub to sit there for another ten days? If you made another tub would you have to like throw it in the hallway? If all you do is throw a lid on it and leave it alone why not?



Fair enough! Why not is a good answer. It has places it can sit.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Smellyhobbit] * 5
    #27928458 - 09/01/22 01:55 AM (1 year, 4 months ago)

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What’s y’all’s opinions of diminishing returns from tubs in subsequent flushes?




I toss them after one or two flushes.

I know some people go for 3, 4, 5 or more. I've done 4, but it doesn't seem worth it, at least with shoeboxes, which is all I do and all I will likely ever do. They're so elegant and simple.

It increases the chance of contam with each flush, and I also usually need the room for new shoe boxes.

I had a friend who did 9 flushes. Last flush was one shroom. But there was a certain macho elegance to going that far with it. He was quite proud. Kind of: "I WILL HAVE THE MOST FLUSHES. I AM THE FLUSH KING!"

If the shrooms aren't clones, it's hard to tell what a flush is too, since they'll often pop up at different rates far more than with clones.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: nektar61] * 3
    #27928463 - 09/01/22 02:08 AM (1 year, 4 months ago)

I go a max 3 flushes and even the 3rd seems pointless due to the diminishing returns.
If I'm able to get 1.5kg from the first flush then I'm happy to not worry about subsequent flushes.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: DERRAYLD] * 1
    #27928602 - 09/01/22 06:58 AM (1 year, 4 months ago)

When I was running a lot of bags and totes, I would do one flush only.
I didn't have room for them after that. It was such a revolving system, there wasn't room for any bag or tote to do a second because there was one to take its place in 1st flush.

When you got room for it tho, "why not"


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: nektar61] * 1
    #27928669 - 09/01/22 08:10 AM (1 year, 4 months ago)

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What’s y’all’s opinions of diminishing returns from tubs in subsequent flushes?




I toss them after one or two flushes.

I know some people go for 3, 4, 5 or more. I've done 4, but it doesn't seem worth it, at least with shoeboxes, which is all I do and all I will likely ever do. They're so elegant and simple.

It increases the chance of contam with each flush, and I also usually need the room for new shoe boxes.

I had a friend who did 9 flushes. Last flush was one shroom. But there was a certain macho elegance to going that far with it. He was quite proud. Kind of: "I WILL HAVE THE MOST FLUSHES. I AM THE FLUSH KING!"

If the shrooms aren't clones, it's hard to tell what a flush is too, since they'll often pop up at different rates far more than with clones.



Yes, I’ve noticed that about my multispore grows. I’m still going off my first APE shoebox, and it’s on flush 4.5. The first two were sorta merged lol. But I’m feeling like two flushes is probably going to be all going forward, since I’m tapering my PF grows and switching it all to grain. I’ll need the shoebox room.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Smellyhobbit]
    #27928675 - 09/01/22 08:12 AM (1 year, 4 months ago)

For the most part people chase flushes if they don't have mush, other than that one successful grow will give you ample before the next grow.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: DERRAYLD] * 1
    #27928681 - 09/01/22 08:16 AM (1 year, 4 months ago)

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For the most part people chase flushes if they don't have mush, other than that one successful grow will give you ample before the next grow.



I let these first real shoeboxes give me everything because before these I only ever got one flush per tub, but those were all UB and I know why they failed. I’m pushing flushes all the way to contam because I needed to prove to myself that it was bad technique before and that multiple flushes were achievable. That’s my learning style - trust but verify. Obviously I knew tubs gave more than one flush, but until I saw it it was just theory.

Now I’m discussing this with you all to get a feel for how many I should allow. If production ramps up in the coming month or two, I might not have the luxury of more than 2 flushes, since new grain spawn will continuously need real estate.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Smellyhobbit] * 1
    #27928682 - 09/01/22 08:18 AM (1 year, 4 months ago)

Just roll with it, you want the highest returns for your time spent.

We're not just trying to get a g to get high, we want qty so make it work.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: DERRAYLD] * 2
    #27928689 - 09/01/22 08:24 AM (1 year, 4 months ago)

Also depends on what you’re growing. I’ve seen folks pulling back to back full canopies of spaghetti Mexicana and other stone producers and getting something like 3oz dried per quart. So you need to know your species and culture as well.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Southerner]
    #27928693 - 09/01/22 08:27 AM (1 year, 4 months ago)

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Also depends on what you’re growing. I’ve seen folks pulling back to back full canopies of spaghetti Mexicana and other stone producers and getting something like 3oz dried per quart. So you need to know your species and culture as well.



Very good point


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Smellyhobbit] * 1
    #27928794 - 09/01/22 10:07 AM (1 year, 4 months ago)

True, most my one flush then toss was melmac and they take forever for second flush if they do at all.
So it's all situational.

Great point


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Hobbit GDF]
    #27928798 - 09/01/22 10:10 AM (1 year, 4 months ago)

And if you got a casing layer and whatnot… my grows were crap until I started casing em… with a casing layer I almost always get at least 2 flushes sometimes 4…


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